The Answer by MaximBBW

[maximbbw]

"ok ur into fitness right then why do u like fat chicks" - question posed to me by a self-proclaimed "fat chick"

The short and sweet answer is because I LOVE THEM!
There is absolutely no room for a skinny chick on my side (sounds ironic, don't it?)
There's only room for wide hips, viciously fat ass, thick calves, and a pretty face
(like I've said before countless times, i see more pretty big girls than pretty little or average girls
all the time)
I'm glad that someone actually asked me this question! I've always known or assumed
that people, especially women, thought that because of how I look, I must be into either muscular
or non-big girls-not the case at all! LISTEN-if you did a little research on the "origin" of
the natural form of a woman and what type of woman is considered the REAL DEAL then you'd quickly
find that the bigger than "average" woman is the truest and most
respected female form. So one answer for my choice could be because I am scholarly? lol

Naaaaaaahhhh...here's a better answer--big girls are soft, they have more of what a REAL MAN
instinctively desires most of the time-thighs, ass, and breasts. (personally I'm an ass or "bum" guy. The feeling of warm, soft, female flesh in abundance is like no other! Plus visually every movement, every jiggle, every thick
undulation of ass or thigh or breast is a mental stimulant.

Besides that, contrary to what I have heard other men say, I don't need a skinny chick to make me feel like the BIG MAN ON CAMPUS! I work
out and need a woman who can get down with the get down. I can't fathom getting any enjoyment out of: a) seeing bones or
b)feeling bones on contact--SKINNY CHICKS ARE A LIABILITY!! And before you ask, YES I have been with a skinny chick -
tried it, didn't like it, and damn sure didn't buy the T-Shirt.

[Zoom]

A simpler answer is, "Fat chicks can be fit too". Although nobody in the mainstream would believe you.

[Totmacher]

Good to hear, every little bit counts. For me it's more along the lines of, " What's good for the gander ain't always good for the goose..." Kinda thing, but, you make some excelent points.

[t3h_n00b]

Agreed dude. As a man who is very into "fitness" (really I'm into bodybuilding as a sport/art), people are often taken aback by my being an FA, but they don't realize that I'm not attracted to bodybuilder women. I mean seriously, who wants this?
http://www.rennetoney.com/FreeGallery/March212006/images/Serena%20Toney.jpg

not me that's for sure.

Our image of fitness is based on certain bodytypes, making them quite limited. Those bodytypes have been deemed "fit" because of their connection to athletics and sports. That, to me, is perfectly ok. I don't think anyone would say a powerlifter or strongman competitor is out of shape because there are substantial opporunities to view the performance of those physiques, which are usually high BMI. The societal ideal for mens bodies has always been based on their conveyence of strength and athleticism which is reflected in a variety of athletic physiques (flyweight to heavyweight boxers and wrestlers for example). Some sports like powerlifting, rugby, and football are totally dominated by very very large men who then to retain a lot of body fat.

With women, it's different though. There isn't a well-known or well-viewed sport that I can think of that is dominated by fat or plus sized women. Most sports that women are commonly thought to participate in are dominated by women with rather small physiques. The body type range for athletic women is a lot smaller than that of men, so I think that there is a good deal of sexism involved when it comes to maligning athletic male FA's. That, I think, has a lot to do with the way that women athletics are percieved and the way that beauty notions are unwilling to conform to the image of (relatively) true and universally accessible health for women. I think this all boils down to fat women not having an avenue to strut their stuff in a mainstream competitive athletic capacity that actually impresses the average person.

[kropotkin_fan]

With women, it's different though. There isn't a well-known or well-viewed sport that I can think of that is dominated by fat or plus sized women. Most sports that women are commonly thought to participate in are dominated by women with rather small physiques. The body type range for athletic women is a lot smaller than that of men, so I think that there is a good deal of sexism involved when it comes to maligning athletic male FA's. That, I think, has a lot to do with the way that women athletics are percieved and the way that beauty notions are unwilling to conform to the image of (relatively) true and universally accessible health for women. I think this all boils down to fat women not having an avenue to strut their stuff in a mainstream competitive athletic capacity that actually impresses the average person.

But also, one must consider the impact that excess weight has on athletic performance. If I had to guess, a big belly probably doesn't work wonders for success in athletics.

[t3h_n00b]

But also, one must consider the impact that excess weight has on athletic performance. If I had to guess, a big belly probably doesn't work wonders for success in athletics.

depends on the sport, and not all big women have big bellies. At least not so much as to prevent them from participating in sports.

[Totmacher]

First I'd like to say, "no offense to bodybuilding women." Serena seems like a very nice person who I'm sure has plenty of admirers.

Secondly I'd like to point out a big belly can be helpful in powerlifting: it's supposed to cushion your organs or something of that nature. I suppose it would cut down on wind resistance in track events and probably make you that much harder to shove around in sumo wrestling or some other groundholding-centric event ;) .

[Foolish Fool]

A simpler answer is, "Fat chicks can be fit too". Although nobody in the mainstream would believe you.
wha!? *hed esplodes*

[love dubh]

First I'd like to say, "no offense to bodybuilding women." Serena seems like a very nice person who I'm sure has plenty of admirers.

Secondly I'd like to point out a big belly can be helpful in powerlifting: it's supposed to cushion your organs or something of that nature. I suppose it would cut down on wind resistance in track events and probably make you that much harder to shove around in sumo wrestling or some other groundholding-centric event ;) .

Just like fat women, very athletic women are not seen as beautiful, either, by the mainstream. They're viewed as unfeminine, rough, manly. A woman's body, whether too big or too hard, still falls under the criticism and guide-lines of a patriarchal society. Fat women are seen as unfeminine because of their excess weight, the associations with unhealth, and yes, their size. Their size is intimidating, just like a woman's muscles are intimidating. A dominant or abusive man cannot push a large or a bodybuilding woman around, and that is threatening.

eta: I'm a weightlifter, so I guess I'm a man-woman. :/ ah well.

[mossystate]

Just like fat women, very athletic women are not seen as beautiful, either, by the mainstream. They're viewed as unfeminine, rough, manly. A woman's body, whether too big or too hard, still falls under the criticism and guide-lines of a patriarchal society. Fat women are seen as unfeminine because of their excess weight, the associations with unhealth, and yes, their size. Their size is intimidating, just like a woman's muscles are intimidating. A dominant or abusive man cannot push a large or a bodybuilding woman around, and that is threatening.

eta: I'm a weightlifter, so I guess I'm a man-woman. :/ ah well.

Big steamy plate of rep, for you.

Reminds me of a comic I saw in a magazine.

A woman and a man are standing, watching a few women work out with weights. The man turns to the woman with him and says..." Oh, how gross..and who would want to be with a person who could beat you up "......woman says, " Not me "....and she walks away from the macho asshole.

And, Noob, plenty of men like women with muscles. Saying " who would want THAT ", goes beyond your personal preference. I would think that as a bodybuilder, you could appreciate a woman who takes as much time as you, developing her physique like that.

[big_gurl_lvr]

What come across my mind.... All people have different preferences and your look, interests, life style do not determine your taste. They can but it's minor factor. I love doing sports but I find big girls attractive, no matter if they are into it or not... and I would never bash anybody for liking bodybuilder, anorectic or just skinny girl. You like what you like and as long as you are fine with my preferences fair play to you.
Cheers

[t3h_n00b]

Just like fat women, very athletic women are not seen as beautiful, either, by the mainstream. They're viewed as unfeminine, rough, manly. A woman's body, whether too big or too hard, still falls under the criticism and guide-lines of a patriarchal society. Fat women are seen as unfeminine because of their excess weight, the associations with unhealth, and yes, their size. Their size is intimidating, just like a woman's muscles are intimidating. A dominant or abusive man cannot push a large or a bodybuilding woman around, and that is threatening.

eta: I'm a weightlifter, so I guess I'm a man-woman. :/ ah well.

Let me clarify, I like bobybuilder/weightlifer women who aren't juiced to the gills. The physical changes that steroids bring are gross to me. Natural bodybuilder/weightlifter women are quite attractive. The women who get heavy on the sauce wind up being a step away from being trannies.

[Jon Blaze]

Let me clarify, I like bobybuilder/weightlifer women who aren't juiced to the gills. The physical changes that steroids bring are gross to me. Natural bodybuilder/weightlifter women are quite attractive. The women who get heavy on the sauce wind up being a step away from being trannies.

I agree with you there. I think the sort of "Naturalistic" look of a muscular woman can be attractive (I've seen some nice images online a few times), but that the hyper sterodial version is not too appeasing at times. Not that I'm going to purposely attack them for it or anything, but what the hey.

I like that a lot of you guys are being respectful of these differeing preferences/differences/acceptance/balances/whatever :p too by the way.

[Jon Blaze]

Just like fat women, very athletic women are not seen as beautiful, either, by the mainstream. They're viewed as unfeminine, rough, manly. A woman's body, whether too big or too hard, still falls under the criticism and guide-lines of a patriarchal society. Fat women are seen as unfeminine because of their excess weight, the associations with unhealth, and yes, their size. Their size is intimidating, just like a woman's muscles are intimidating. A dominant or abusive man cannot push a large or a bodybuilding woman around, and that is threatening.

eta: I'm a weightlifter, so I guess I'm a man-woman. :/ ah well.

*Reputation Fist for accuracy*

It's unfortunate. I believe the person that said "SOCIETY WANTS CONTROL!" in one post was accurate in their comment. It goes in all directions, and you are correct in that women have the more aesthetic burden. It's really sad: Ur too thin OMG, UR TOO FAT OMG, Ur too muscular omg... It's like women have to be slightly below the norm to be considered "Pretty."

(SIGH) When is society going to stop trying to make beauty objective?

[katybug]

Our image of fitness is based on certain bodytypes, making them quite limited. Those bodytypes have been deemed "fit" because of their connection to athletics and sports. That, to me, is perfectly ok. I don't think anyone would say a powerlifter or strongman competitor is out of shape because there are substantial opporunities to view the performance of those physiques, which are usually high BMI. The societal ideal for mens bodies has always been based on their conveyence of strength and athleticism which is reflected in a variety of athletic physiques (flyweight to heavyweight boxers and wrestlers for example). Some sports like powerlifting, rugby, and football are totally dominated by very very large men who then to retain a lot of body fat.

With women, it's different though. There isn't a well-known or well-viewed sport that I can think of that is dominated by fat or plus sized women. Most sports that women are commonly thought to participate in are dominated by women with rather small physiques. The body type range for athletic women is a lot smaller than that of men, so I think that there is a good deal of sexism involved when it comes to maligning athletic male FA's. That, I think, has a lot to do with the way that women athletics are percieved and the way that beauty notions are unwilling to conform to the image of (relatively) true and universally accessible health for women. I think this all boils down to fat women not having an avenue to strut their stuff in a mainstream competitive athletic capacity that actually impresses the average person.

I definitely agree...but I think your insight is valid for the world in general not just in athletics. Society is definitely more accepting of men who are overweight than of women who are overweight. An overweight man can just be seen as "strong, masculine, a protector." Whereas overweight women are usually thought of as "lazy, housewife types" by mainstream society, even if we are neither lazy or housewives lol. I'm by no means saying that overweight men are not judged by the mainstream but just not necessarily in the same fashion as overweight women are sometimes.

[t3h_n00b]

I definitely agree...but I think your insight is valid for the world in general not just in athletics. Society is definitely more accepting of men who are overweight than of women who are overweight. An overweight man can just be seen as "strong, masculine, a protector." Whereas overweight women are usually thought of as "lazy, housewife types" by mainstream society, even if we are neither lazy or housewives lol. I'm by no means saying that overweight men are not judged by the mainstream but just not necessarily in the same fashion as overweight women are sometimes.

I just sort of noticed that since coming to this board. I realized that there is a very gendered way of idealizing weight for people. Certain things are ok for guys and not for women because they've been proven on the field, right, etc.

These guys are pro athletes:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40889000/jpg/_40889270_sumo.jpg
http://www.cuatro.com/multimedia/recorte.php?id=XLCO&type=Ies&xref=20061113ctoultnot_24
http://www.wildsamoan.com/Rikishi.gif

and most would agree that they are in good shape. They're just huge. I for one would love to see some big women participate in sports. I think there could be as much a market for it as there is for womens sports in general. That said, it doesn't seem that society is ready for a female athlete that doesn't convey copious degrees of sex appeal. It seems that there are too many conflicting demands on athletic women's bodies to actually overcome the physical prejudices that basically run their lives. I know that sounds hopeless, but there's a lot of stock invested in mass sexuality. It will take a long time to change, more time than we've got.

[FatAndProud]

i leave all the heavy lifting to the big strong boys :wubu:

heavy lifting = me, duh :p

[fa_foo]

Let me clarify, I like bobybuilder/weightlifer women who aren't juiced to the gills. The physical changes that steroids bring are gross to me. Natural bodybuilder/weightlifter women are quite attractive. The women who get heavy on the sauce wind up being a step away from being trannies.

Just a quick note, since we're on body issues. Trannies are people too, and while its apparent that androgyny is not your preference, its not necessarily nice to denigrate them. As a matter of fact, a search on the Internet will show you that there are a lot of people around who find trannies attractive.

I do, however, agree that women who take steroids until they've got the classic supermuscular T-shape of a male bodybuilder are not attractive (to me).

foo

[t3h_n00b]

Just a quick note, since we're on body issues. Trannies are people too, and while its apparent that androgyny is not your preference, its not necessarily nice to denigrate them. As a matter of fact, a search on the Internet will show you that there are a lot of people around who find trannies attractive.

I do, however, agree that women who take steroids until they've got the classic supermuscular T-shape of a male bodybuilder are not attractive (to me).

foo

I didn't intend to denigrate trannies, I just regard them as male (with obvious female physical traits). I support gay and transgendered/transexual relationships, but I'd never want to be in one. That's what I meant.