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Raqui
04-04-2008, 12:42 PM
OK if i am over the top I am sorry but i want to talk to other big women and men who are into giving big women oral sex.
I saw the other oral sex post and decided to create my own on this subject
I have never been in love with oral sex. I like it and it is pleasurable and great for warming up if the person does the right thing.
But i find that as a SSBBW men havent always reached the right spot and stuck with me. Understanding that my FOURUNTE COOKIE as I call it is much fatter than the average woman and the average bbw.
THE MAN WOULD SUFFOCATE trying to stick his face that deeply. Believe me i have had men who love to do so but rubbing your face around down there doesnt make the cookie sing. It is just a bunch of rubbing around, after all the rubbing with what seems like no purpose leaves me with GIANT ????? marks in my head.
You need two strong able hands to hold apart the cookie. But just when it seems like it is almost going well the hands give out. SHOOT I am ready to give up and I am tired of explaining.
Has any other women gone through this?
MEN what are your techniques and are you sure they are working?
SocialbFly
04-04-2008, 12:48 PM
I have found that a willing partner, looking to please YOU as well as himself, should have no issues...yeah, i am a fat girl too, yeah, it is hard work, but someone has to do it...and most are happy to...lol...
i just give as good as i get, so it tends to be more motivating i suspect...
olwen
04-04-2008, 12:52 PM
If you are flexible, then it may help to stick a pillow under your hips, open them as wide as you can and reach down and hold your cookie open for him, and use a finger to point him in the right direction. It's worked for me in the past.
LillyBBBW
04-04-2008, 01:05 PM
I'm right there with you Raqui. Oral has never done much for me than exactly what you describe. I'm sexually stimulated more via pressure than just touch alone and oral doesn't create the kind of pressure that works, at least not comfortably from the guys POV. Mostly I find it uncomfortably irritating and need him to stop. I don't think this has anything to do with being big as I have always been like this. Pillows and all that will help just about everything but that. lol
activistfatgirl
04-04-2008, 01:09 PM
I'm really glad that you posted this, Raqui! I've always loved the idea of oral, but when it gets down to the actual actions, it does seem like having plus-size body means your partner needs plus-size skills.
I've always tried to use my own hands to help spread the love, but that can be hard for extended periods of time.
I have to admit that I chuckled a little bit about the suffocation part. I've had a partner just dive in face first and I wanted to be like, oh baby, don't sacrifice yourself just for this! If you pass out before the doin' it, I'm going to be pissed.
Good tips so encouraged!
inari
04-04-2008, 01:14 PM
Hi Raqui,
Its so true of the saying,"education is power". If the man is educated in how to love our Goddess bodies then love making of any kind will be pleasurable no matter what the size. And we (women) too need alittle tutoring from time to time. Positioning plays a very big part when trying to have relations whether its intercourse and or oral. Try lying on your side or on your tummy. Trying different techniques can open the jar better for retrieving the cookie.:)
Inari
Butterbelly
04-04-2008, 01:17 PM
If you are flexible, then it may help to stick a pillow under your hips, open them as wide as you can and reach down and hold your cookie open for him, and use a finger to point him in the right direction. It's worked for me in the past.
Yup, I agree with Olwen. These techniques have worked great for me and my partner.
olwen
04-04-2008, 01:49 PM
it helps too if you know which spots work and to not be afraid to say so. I've had to do that sometimes. I just tell the guy, hey not there here or kind of move my hips around until he hits the right spot. I've found also that some guys like to be told where to go and others don't. But you wont know until you try. But I don't think size has anything to do with oral not working for a woman. I'm sure thin girls have the same problem.
Raqui
04-04-2008, 01:51 PM
I agree ladies I am quite flexible but maybe I am more pressure orientated not sure but i have to say I get quite annoyed with explaining and pointing and all that and nothing happens. I WOULD RATHER HAVE A V8 LOL
olwen
04-04-2008, 01:55 PM
the explaining can be akward at first, but then once he/she learns what you like, you don't have to explain any more. I'm just a big fan of communicating. But it is nice when you don't have to tell em where to go. If only they all had the know how....sigh.
Raqui
04-04-2008, 02:01 PM
I hear you olwen I am quite blunt and out there and i mean i can draw a chart and i can point to it and tell you what i want in about 100 diffrent ways I will look it up and speak it to you in another language if need be. But them actually doing it HAVE MERCY does your mind go BLANK or what LOL
olwen
04-04-2008, 02:05 PM
Ha! If they are totally clueless and still don't listen after you've explained it, then they should not get a pass to go downtown. Hopefully you'll be able to give out plenty of passes in the future.
chocolate desire
04-04-2008, 02:20 PM
I agree with Ms. Social.. it just takes the right partner:D
Trust me I don't have that sig. just because I like the song.
Raqui
04-04-2008, 02:27 PM
Go ahead CHOCOLATE I love that song also. LOL Hugs
So now where are the men at? Are they scared to join in with the women?
chocolate desire
04-04-2008, 02:28 PM
I hear you olwen I am quite blunt and out there and i mean i can draw a chart and i can point to it and tell you what i want in about 100 diffrent ways I will look it up and speak it to you in another language if need be. But them actually doing it HAVE MERCY does your mind go BLANK or what LOL
Raqui gurl let me tell you when you give the right one the lesson and he learns it down pat...watch out woohoo it will be well worth the wait tust me on this one.
Raqui
04-04-2008, 02:32 PM
Yeah like that song on the internet CHOCLATE RAIN Lol it will come on DOWN LOL LOL
Hey ladies how about manual. If you had to pick would your rather want Oral or manual.
For some reason manual is good for me AGAIN if the man actually LISTENS?
and what do you do with a man who has a short tounge. I mean one that barely passes their teeth. I have experienced that a few times and found it just not worth my time as far as oral went.
JohnWylde
04-04-2008, 02:54 PM
Hi Raqui!
I wouldn't claim to be an expert on oral but I think I can give a lady, and an SSBBW especially, pleasure with oral play.
My approach is just variety, try various approaches to see what gives the lady the most pleasure. Making the most of breathing opportuntites certainly plays an important part as I go deep enough to hit the right spot lol.
I am quite ready to keep learning what pleases my lady most too so I hope and plan lots of oral pleasure to come.
John W
OK if i am over the top I am sorry but i want to talk to other big women and men who are into giving big women oral sex.
I saw the other oral sex post and decided to create my own on this subject
I have never been in love with oral sex. I like it and it is pleasurable and great for warming up if the person does the right thing.
But i find that as a SSBBW men havent always reached the right spot and stuck with me. Understanding that my FOURUNTE COOKIE as I call it is much fatter than the average woman and the average bbw.
THE MAN WOULD SUFFOCATE trying to stick his face that deeply. Believe me i have had men who love to do so but rubbing your face around down there doesnt make the cookie sing. It is just a bunch of rubbing around, after all the rubbing with what seems like no purpose leaves me with GIANT ????? marks in my head.
You need two strong able hands to hold apart the cookie. But just when it seems like it is almost going well the hands give out. SHOOT I am ready to give up and I am tired of explaining.
Has any other women gone through this?
MEN what are your techniques and are you sure they are working?
seavixen
04-04-2008, 03:52 PM
Anything in the missionary-type position is best done for me if I'm not all propped up on pillows like I usually am (behind the back/head, that is). Laying flat makes the belly slide more toward my face, so it doesn't get in the way so much; it also makes it easier to move legs around more and give a bit more access, since the belly weight isn't pressing down on the thighs and there seems to be more room to spread the legs. The pillow under the hip area thing works nicely, too.
I have also found that oral can be easy and give a really nice pressure if you sit or lay on the edge of the bed and your partner gets on their knees on the floor. I'm very much more about pressure than anything else (I think the fat body is very conducive to this, with large thighs and such that press in unique ways) aside from maybe mental stimulation, and I have found the edge of the bed thing the most consistent and least lengthy. Also, if you have a FA partner they are probably going to find it pretty fun to see your body from that angle. :)
Oral's sort of a hit or miss for me, otherwise - not because of any physical limitations or lack of ability, but because my mind wanders a lot and for some reason I can't concentrate on it as well. But a huge part of my enjoyment with anything sexual is knowing my partner is enjoying it, and while I know he does, it's not really the same thing in my mind. :)
olwen
04-04-2008, 05:25 PM
oral or manual? How about both at the same time? Raqui, I'm starting to think you haven't found the right guy for this yet.
gangstadawg
04-04-2008, 05:31 PM
oral or manual? How about both at the same time? Raqui, I'm starting to think you haven't found the right guy for this yet.
maybe she may have to teach a guy how to do it the way she likes it.
olwen
04-04-2008, 05:34 PM
maybe she may have to teach a guy how to do it the way she likes it.
Right, but she's tired of explaining cause they still don't do it right. It's a tough situation sometimes.
gangstadawg
04-04-2008, 05:46 PM
Right, but she's tired of explaining cause they still don't do it right. It's a tough situation sometimes.
well give the person time sex (including oral) is not something that can be mastered overnight. im no master of "sexfu" myself but i prefer women to tell me the way they like it instead of me figuring it out since every woman is different.
moniquessbbw
04-04-2008, 06:17 PM
If you are flexible, then it may help to stick a pillow under your hips, open them as wide as you can and reach down and hold your cookie open for him, and use a finger to point him in the right direction. It's worked for me in the past.
You hit the nail on the head. The pillows under your butt always work and if you have a big belly it will help get the belly out of the way. Your lover needs to take his time and get the job done right. Let him or her know how you like it done. Talk to him or her as they are doing it at first and do not be afraid to say don't stop thats the right spot.
Ernest Nagel
04-04-2008, 07:31 PM
I'm going to impart unto you the slobbery wisdom of 30+ years of orally satisfying women of size. Take heed as I won't do it again soon, if ever. Do trust that it is absolutely and unequivocally worth it. Many women of average weight as well as BBW may have difficulty climaxing via vaginal intercourse. NOT a problem. If I sound a little clinical here I apologize but it is something I LOVE doing and it was no small challenge to think of how to say what has worked for my partners and I so many happy times. :eat2:
Cunnilingus on a SSBBW requires a little patience on both sides and some common sense. Like anything else it takes X amount of time to get the job done right. Not being able to breathe tends to cause one to rush things or, worse yet, be superficial/tentative. Guys, the first thing you gotta do is develop a breathing technique. This may need to be modified or alternated as conditions dictate. With very few exceptions traditional nostril breathing is gonna be a non-starter unless you wanna spend half your energy and attention managing and/or moving her pannis. Not a good strategy. Been there, done that, gotta a stiff neck for the effort. If you cannot respire you will not be desired down there. That simple.
The more successful approach is usually to tilt your face forward slightly, rather than back. This simple shift allows you to draw breath from your widely opened mouth under your tongue. Take the time to work this one thing out and you're halfway home.
Having the breathing issue handled then allows for better focus on the task at hand, NPI. This is best approached as a kind of loving trial and error process. First look for the "where". Finding the clit with your tongue can be tricky. Don't be afraid to use you fingers and follow them to the target. Take your time, tease a little. Take in the whole love taco rather than trying to drill straight for the big O.
Some women have very sensitive labia and/or mons. Learn her. It's a journey, not a destination. Clits come in a wide range of sensitivity and that may change significantly with deepening arousal. A nibble at the beginning may feel like you're biting it off a few minutes later. Be aware down there! Reach and fondle the rest of her body. It's still there. Once there though, focus on the "what".
If your partner isn't vocal or into giving directions pay attention to her breathing and pulse rate. With a larger BBW or SSBBW, her breathing is more or less a whole body experience. Be aware of changes in rhythm, caught breaths, etc. If her thighs are tightly covering your ears you can often catch the soft whispering of the femoral pulse. If it quickens perceptibly you're on a good path.
Circles, thrusts, flickers, many others, all have their moments. Listen for them. BTW, your tongue and fingers are not your only tools. Teeth and lips have potential, used lovingly. Do not be jealous of the company of a good vibrator down there, either. I have finished many times with a very relaxed jaw. :D
Lingual dexterity varies from guy to guy but it can be developed. Practice in the mirror making shapes and extending your tongue as far out, left, right, up and down as you can. It's worth it, trust me. It is possible, difficult admittedly, but possible to reach some SSBBW's g-spots with your tongue, if you know what you're doing. You don't have to be able to lick your own eyebrows and earlobes. Yo DO have to care about her pleasure for it's own sake, jmo.
Of course do your homework anatomically. www.the-clitoris.com is an invaluable resource here. Most of all don't get in a rut, NPI again. What worked last night may not work this morning. She's not a freaking combination lock! Don't be afraid to learn some new dances, Gomer! Hope this helps? :bow:
olwen
04-04-2008, 08:08 PM
Earnest, this post is very astute and very good advice for anyone who loves big women. I salute you. You get a rep for that.
chocolate desire
04-04-2008, 08:48 PM
Hi Raqui!
I wouldn't claim to be an expert on oral but I think I can give a lady, and an SSBBW especially, pleasure with oral play.
My approach is just variety, try various approaches to see what gives the lady the most pleasure. Making the most of breathing opportuntites certainly plays an important part as I go deep enough to hit the right spot lol.
I am quite ready to keep learning what pleases my lady most too so I hope and plan lots of oral pleasure to come.
John W
Are you taking notes honey?? I am not trying to brag but I think you already know enough as is lol.:wubu:
eyesforyou
04-04-2008, 09:30 PM
So far I have found all of the techniques mentioned to be beneficial. Breathing, proper elevation, use of hands, etc are all excellent ways of going about your business. I have also found that (if your lips are strong enough and your mouth big enough) you can use your lips to push aside the labia and have a space with which to work. The only downfall to this method is that it requires you to be able to hold your breath. Try practicing deep breathing with as much flexing of the diaphragm as possible and it should help prepare you. I have also found that gently drawing the clitoris into your mouth can be quite stimulating. As was mentioned, the tongue isn't the only tool available, make use of your entire mouth. As was also mentioned, practicing similar motions for a short period once a day can greatly improve your oral performance. Of course, you could always just practice on your lady. ;)
I believe the issue of pressure was brought up as well. With the proper exercises you can also increase the strength of the tongue. Try bringing your hand up to your mouth with your index finger facing towards your lips and by pushing towards your mouth and pushing against your finger with your tongue you can build the muscle. Albeit this all looks a bit silly so I wouldn't recommend privacy while your exercise your tongue. Or not, whatever.
Ultimately it takes time and practice to be able to please any size of lady orally but personally I find it to be one of the most satisfying activities to engage in sexually. Aside from sensuous penetration that is. Lol.
:eat2:
Ernest Nagel
04-04-2008, 10:04 PM
Just for the record, with some well-cushioned or posterior blessed SSBBW the pillows are the butt and visa versa. Pillows under the shoulders actually help thrust the pelvis and therefore pubes forward and up. Try it and see, ladies and gentleman. Don't take my word for it. ;) :p
Pillows under the hip can reduce the obstruction of the pannis but at the expense of comfort and breathing ease to the SSBBW. Note my first siggy, while it's there.
(Sig at time of this post. I'm SO gd considerate, LOL)
"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." ~ Theodore Roosevelt
LillyBBBW
04-04-2008, 11:03 PM
I'm going to impart unto you the slobbery wisdom of 30+ years of orally satisfying women of size. Take heed as I won't do it again soon, if ever. Do trust that it is absolutely and unequivocally worth it. Many women of average weight as well as BBW may have difficulty climaxing via vaginal intercourse. NOT a problem. If I sound a little clinical here I apologize but it is something I LOVE doing and it was no small challenge to think of how to say what has worked for my partners and I so many happy times. :eat2:
Cunnilingus on a SSBBW requires a little patience on both sides and some common sense. Like anything else it takes X amount of time to get the job done right. Not being able to breathe tends to cause one to rush things or, worse yet, be superficial/tentative. Guys, the first thing you gotta do is develop a breathing technique. This may need to be modified or alternated as conditions dictate. With very few exceptions traditional nostril breathing is gonna be a non-starter unless you wanna spend half your energy and attention managing and/or moving her pannis. Not a good strategy. Been there, done that, gotta a stiff neck for the effort. If you cannot respire you will not be desired down there. That simple.
The more successful approach is usually to tilt your face forward slightly, rather than back. This simple shift allows you to draw breath from your widely opened mouth under your tongue. Take the time to work this one thing out and you're halfway home.
Having the breathing issue handled then allows for better focus on the task at hand, NPI. This is best approached as a kind of loving trial and error process. First look for the "where". Finding the clit with your tongue can be tricky. Don't be afraid to use you fingers and follow them to the target. Take your time, tease a little. Take in the whole love taco rather than trying to drill straight for the big O.
Some women have very sensitive labia and/or mons. Learn her. It's a journey, not a destination. Clits come in a wide range of sensitivity and that may change significantly with deepening arousal. A nibble at the beginning may feel like you're biting it off a few minutes later. Be aware down there! Reach and fondle the rest of her body. It's still there. Once there though, focus on the "what".
If your partner isn't vocal or into giving directions pay attention to her breathing and pulse rate. With a larger BBW or SSBBW, her breathing is more or less a whole body experience. Be aware of changes in rhythm, caught breaths, etc. If her thighs are tightly covering your ears you can often catch the soft whispering of the femoral pulse. If it quickens perceptibly you're on a good path.
Circles, thrusts, flickers, many others, all have their moments. Listen for them. BTW, your tongue and fingers are not your only tools. Teeth and lips have potential, used lovingly. Do not be jealous of the company of a good vibrator down there, either. I have finished many times with a very relaxed jaw. :D
Lingual dexterity varies from guy to guy but it can be developed. Practice in the mirror making shapes and extending your tongue as far out, left, right, up and down as you can. It's worth it, trust me. It is possible, difficult admittedly, but possible to reach some SSBBW's g-spots with your tongue, if you know what you're doing. You don't have to be able to lick your own eyebrows and earlobes. Yo DO have to care about her pleasure for it's own sake, jmo.
Of course do your homework anatomically. www.the-clitoris.com is an invaluable resource here. Most of all don't get in a rut, NPI again. What worked last night may not work this morning. She's not a freaking combination lock! Don't be afraid to learn some new dances, Gomer! Hope this helps? :bow:
So far I have found all of the techniques mentioned to be beneficial. Breathing, proper elevation, use of hands, etc are all excellent ways of going about your business. I have also found that (if your lips are strong enough and your mouth big enough) you can use your lips to push aside the labia and have a space with which to work. The only downfall to this method is that it requires you to be able to hold your breath. Try practicing deep breathing with as much flexing of the diaphragm as possible and it should help prepare you. I have also found that gently drawing the clitoris into your mouth can be quite stimulating. As was mentioned, the tongue isn't the only tool available, make use of your entire mouth. As was also mentioned, practicing similar motions for a short period once a day can greatly improve your oral performance. Of course, you could always just practice on your lady. ;)
I believe the issue of pressure was brought up as well. With the proper exercises you can also increase the strength of the tongue. Try bringing your hand up to your mouth with your index finger facing towards your lips and by pushing towards your mouth and pushing against your finger with your tongue you can build the muscle. Albeit this all looks a bit silly so I wouldn't recommend privacy while your exercise your tongue. Or not, whatever.
Ultimately it takes time and practice to be able to please any size of lady orally but personally I find it to be one of the most satisfying activities to engage in sexually. Aside from sensuous penetration that is. Lol.
:eat2:
Maybe these ought to be printed out and posted on the 'fridge. Great posts guys. :) I dunno though. In my experiences the mood can be reversed rather quickly and I become concerned with the dishes left in the sink. I'm fairly chaste though and my partners have been few and far in between. The idea of holding auditions till I find the right one doesn't appeal much either, I would hope to be focused on more important things to look for in a partner. Still the stuff you fellas have posted is helpful. Thanks.
Raqui
04-05-2008, 07:53 AM
Well I have just about done it all. it isnt for lack of experience or not knowing how to teach. I am tried of teaching after all this time, Still you have no choice with these issues. LOL
Manual just seems to work better for me and that is only with the right partner. Someone who actually listens and pays attention instead of thinking what works for one woman works for them all.
I havent found a man to orally handle things like I said it seems to not be working well. Now that i have a man i want to keep, getting it right seems more on my mind.
Oral and manual at the same time just seems to distract one from the other for me. It is not an added bonus. plus the fact that your taking a hand away that is needed to be able to access the fourtune cookie.
so it just becomes a bunch of irritating trying. and not much success. my cookie is also sensitive so to much activity at the wrong pressure or with the wrong stimulation means no POP. and I find that lasts quite a few days to a week before I can POP.
Raqui
04-05-2008, 07:57 AM
[QUOTE=Ernest Nagel;750359] Yo DO have to care about her pleasure for it's own sake, jmo.
QUOTE]
That in itself is what needs to be said. SIGH
LillyBBBW
04-05-2008, 10:03 AM
Well I have just about done it all. it isnt for lack of experience or not knowing how to teach. I am tried of teaching after all this time, Still you have no choice with these issues. LOL
Manual just seems to work better for me and that is only with the right partner. Someone who actually listens and pays attention instead of thinking what works for one woman works for them all.
I havent found a man to orally handle things like I said it seems to not be working well. Now that i have a man i want to keep, getting it right seems more on my mind.
Oral and manual at the same time just seems to distract one from the other for me. It is not an added bonus. plus the fact that your taking a hand away that is needed to be able to access the fourtune cookie.
so it just becomes a bunch of irritating trying. and not much success. my cookie is also sensitive so to much activity at the wrong pressure or with the wrong stimulation means no POP. and I find that lasts quite a few days to a week before I can POP.
*nodding* YES. Same experience here Raqui. Most of the folks here have great things to say and I can pretty much appreciate it all but it can come off as being a little demeaning too. The idea that you or your lover is doing something wrong is the automatic response when that may not be the case. Some get a kick out of oral, some get a kick out of anal and some don't. Just because you enjoy something doesn't mean that the people who don't aren't doing it right or there's something wrong with them.
I wouldn't suggest giving up though. You've implied that it's not an altogether unpleasant experience? Maybe playful casual experimentation on a small level can be enjoyable even without the POP. Let your lover in on it, just relax and enjoy what you can enjoy from it even if it's only on a small level. You may accidentally discover something but don't guilt trip yourself if you don't. Added anxiety sucks the fun right out of the whole thing. Establish a comfort zone of intimacy with it and go slow. There's plenty of POP to be found elswhere if it never happens here. If you learn anything useful please do share though. I'd love love love to be proven wrong. :D
Oh yeah, and pillows. Never miss a White Sale at Macy's. ;)
Ernest Nagel
04-05-2008, 10:43 AM
*nodding* YES. Same experience here Raqui. Most of the folks here have great things to say and I can pretty much appreciate it all but it can come off as being a little demeaning too. The idea that you or your lover is doing something wrong is the automatic response when that may not be the case. Some get a kick out of oral, some get a kick out of anal and some don't. Just because you enjoy something doesn't mean that the people who don't aren't doing it right or there's something wrong with them.
I wouldn't suggest giving up though. You've implied that it's not an altogether unpleasant experience? Maybe playful casual experimentation on a small level can be enjoyable even without the POP. Let your lover in on it, just relax and enjoy what you can enjoy from it even if it's only on a small level. You may accidentally discover something but don't guilt trip yourself if you don't. Added anxiety sucks the fun right out of the whole thing. Establish a comfort zone of intimacy with it and go slow. There's plenty of POP to be found elswhere if it never happens here. If you learn anything useful please do share though. I'd love love love to be proven wrong. :D
Oh yeah, and pillows. Never miss a White Sale at Macy's. ;)
To simply echo and addend the incomparable Lilly. Orgasms are just a great incidental benefit to physical intimacy, imo. They're far from the whole point of it. I've had some wonderful, FABULOUS times downtown with BBW who just couldn't climax that way. Good cunnilingus requires no orgasm to be an incredibly sensual even spiritual gift between two people.
Frankly I have never had an orgasm from fellatio. It really doesn't do that much for me. It has given me a certain sensitivity to what it feels like to "fail" your partner though. When a woman insists on reciprocating my oral ardor I try to just be gracious and enjoy the attention. Sometimes I'm surprised how much I enjoy the fact that she's really enjoying it. Because some girls are so proud of their prowess in this department (and loathe to give up!) I will even admit to having "faked" on more than one occasion.
Orgasms are not a measure of affection to begin with but oral seems to be a kind of acid test for some people's relationships. That's unfortunate. Good partners can (and do) give bad head. I am a workaholic asshole and an emotional cripple. Oral skills are one of my few redeeming attributes. :p Def not a basis for choosing life partners is what I guess I'm trying to say?
The point is any way you find to enhance your sensual connectivity and intimacy with a lover is great. Pleasure is a whole rich palette of possibilities that we can splash, dab and stroke on one another. It isn't attached to any one physical sensation. In my experience orgasms happen when everyone is having a good time to begin with; they're NOT the measure of whether a good time was had. :bow:
olwen
04-05-2008, 11:14 AM
To simply echo and addend the incomparable Lilly. Orgasms are just a great incidental benefit to physical intimacy, imo. They're far from the whole point of it. I've had some wonderful, FABULOUS times downtown with BBW who just couldn't climax that way. Good cunnilingus requires no orgasm to be an incredibly sensual even spiritual gift between two people.
Frankly I have never had an orgasm from fellatio. It really doesn't do that much for me. It has given me a certain sensitivity to what it feels like to "fail" your partner though. When a woman insists on reciprocating my oral ardor I try to just be gracious and enjoy the attention. Sometimes I'm surprised how much I enjoy the fact that she's really enjoying it. Because some girls are so proud of their prowess in this department (and loathe to give up!) I will even admit to having "faked" on more than one occasion.
Orgasms are not a measure of affection to begin with but oral seems to be a kind of acid test for some people's relationships. That's unfortunate. Good partners can (and do) give bad head. I am a workaholic asshole and an emotional cripple. Oral skills are one of my few redeeming attributes. :p Def not a basis for choosing life partners is what I guess I'm trying to say?
The point is any way you find to enhance your sensual connectivity and intimacy with a lover is great. Pleasure is a whole rich palette of possibilities that we can splash, dab and stroke on one another. It isn't attached to any one physical sensation. In my experience orgasms happen when everyone is having a good time to begin with; they're NOT the measure of whether a good time was had. :bow:
Another good point Ernest. Bravo.
rissa
04-05-2008, 12:50 PM
can i just say...i got the worst manual this morning. terrible. he wouldn't stop! i was just trying to cuddle and sleep and even moved his hand a few times but he would not let up...and it wasn't that hard for him to *feel* that i wasn't into it. it even started to get painful! i guess he really likes to do it or something pshh.
worst experience with oral...the guy asked me if i wanted it. and i didn't want to be pushy so i said "if you want to." after, he said "i can't believe i just ate your box." ...ahhh! i didn't force him to! then another guy after HE finished and i didn't kind of just rolled over and casually asked, "do you want me to eat you out or something?"
why why whyy are college guys so terrible at everything and WHY do they make you feel like they're doing you a huge favor if they go down on you? it's such a double standard. if i could count the number of times i've been hooking up with a guy and felt that hand on the back of my head pushing me down...
sorry for the rant. it just makes me so angry!
mossystate
04-05-2008, 01:05 PM
rissa...you really need to start telling men to stop doing things you do not want..and telling them about the things you do want
sorry, but, what you described as happening this morning made me wince...the man was assaulting you...you may think that is an exageration..but..no........you pushed his hand away more than once.....he needs to keep his damned hands to himself, at that point....you need to open your mouth and tell him..............stop
men who like women do not do these kinds of things
olwen
04-05-2008, 01:15 PM
I agree. Stop means stop. If he won't stop he's not respecting you. Find a guy who will.
Ernest Nagel
04-05-2008, 01:23 PM
rissa...you really need to start telling men to stop doing things you do not want..and telling them about the things you do want
sorry, but, what you described as happening this morning made me wince...the man was assaulting you...you may think that is an exageration..but..no........you pushed his hand away more than once.....he needs to keep his damned hands to himself, at that point....you need to open your mouth and tell him..............stop
men who like women do not do these kinds of things
Can't rep her again yet so, yeah; just MEGA-dittoes to Mossy! Anyone oblivious of your right to your body, who can't or won't respect your boundaries is worse than a clueless jerk. Abject and recalcitrant selfishness is not a character defect. It's a sign of a genuinely BAD person. JMO.
SoVerySoft
04-05-2008, 03:11 PM
... Because some girls are so proud of their prowess in this department (and loathe to give up!) I will even admit to having "faked" on more than one occasion....
oh? How does a guy do that? I can understand when you are having intercourse, but oral? How do you fake orgasm then?
Just curious :)
eyesforyou
04-05-2008, 10:21 PM
Maybe these ought to be printed out and posted on the 'fridge. Great posts guys. :) I dunno though. In my experiences the mood can be reversed rather quickly and I become concerned with the dishes left in the sink. I'm fairly chaste though and my partners have been few and far in between. The idea of holding auditions till I find the right one doesn't appeal much either, I would hope to be focused on more important things to look for in a partner. Still the stuff you fellas have posted is helpful. Thanks.
thank you :)
Well I have just about done it all. it isnt for lack of experience or not knowing how to teach. I am tried of teaching after all this time, Still you have no choice with these issues. LOL
Manual just seems to work better for me and that is only with the right partner. Someone who actually listens and pays attention instead of thinking what works for one woman works for them all.
I havent found a man to orally handle things like I said it seems to not be working well. Now that i have a man i want to keep, getting it right seems more on my mind.
Oral and manual at the same time just seems to distract one from the other for me. It is not an added bonus. plus the fact that your taking a hand away that is needed to be able to access the fourtune cookie.
so it just becomes a bunch of irritating trying. and not much success. my cookie is also sensitive so to much activity at the wrong pressure or with the wrong stimulation means no POP. and I find that lasts quite a few days to a week before I can POP.
you just have to go with what is best for you, if it's manual, go with, if it's oral, or anal or a dildo or vibrator, etc, just go with it. It's really easy for the guy to come so your orgasm should be of first importance.
CleverBomb
04-05-2008, 11:23 PM
rissa...you really need to start telling men to stop doing things you do not want..and telling them about the things you do want
sorry, but, what you described as happening this morning made me wince...the man was assaulting you...you may think that is an exageration..but..no........you pushed his hand away more than once.....he needs to keep his damned hands to himself, at that point....you need to open your mouth and tell him..............stop
men who like women do not do these kinds of things
I am not spreading it around enough, I guess.
Excellent point about consent.
-Rusty
bbw_and_proud
04-06-2008, 02:27 AM
What a great post! I have had issues with this as well. Like others have said, I, too, hold my labia open and point out the exact spot (clitoris) where I want to have the oral performed. This, and I open my legs like a butterfly (feet together, knees spread) - this moves some of the thigh fat away from [B]that[B] area.
Good luck to everyone, no matter how you do it or like it! ;)
Caitlin
altered states
04-06-2008, 04:22 AM
oh? How does a guy do that? I can understand when you are having intercourse, but oral? How do you fake orgasm then?
Just curious :)
"Hey - look over there!"
[gag, slurp] "Huh? What?!"
"Oh, sorry, nothing. Oops I came. What's for dinner?"
furious styles
04-06-2008, 05:07 AM
responding only to the title of the post,
it is .. a good thing.
Ernest Nagel
04-06-2008, 06:15 AM
oh? How does a guy do that? I can understand when you are having intercourse, but oral? How do you fake orgasm then?
Just curious :)
The same way y'all do. ;) Where egos are involved little evidence is needed. :eat2:
Raqui
04-06-2008, 07:01 AM
can i just say...i got the worst manual this morning. terrible. he wouldn't stop!!
I agree with the ladies, There are times when I am more sensitive than others, and i just dont want something. You dont have to be in the mood all the time for hand play or oral, and nothing is wrong with just wanting some good ole PENETRATION is fine.
I would experss really blunt to the college guys. They just in it to be in it, sometimes with a partner they get sensitve about it but on the bigger scale they dont want to do something you dont want to do.
Many times after sex my partner asks me if I want manual, And 7 out of 10 times I am not into it at the moment. I wanted the rubbing kissing and just to say it bluntly THE PENIS.
Then i am ready to curl up and sleep or start my day.
Tell them want you want when you want it and if a man is doing something like this morning say. Listen i am sensitve right now so it hurts. Any man in his right mind will not continue. Men have to be educated especially young ones because they dont understand that women are diffrent. Our clits are not like there penis it isnt ready all the time. These younger college men seem to be that way and dont get it.
Raqui
Raqui
04-06-2008, 07:08 AM
little evidence is needed. :eat2:
Ok I got to ask, because I always look to see when it comes out. I dont know why but i like to watch. Now what happens if nothing comes out she doesnt notice. Do you like turn away or something? Um what if she is a taster? And she tastes NOTHING? LOL I dont know?
OK I GOT IT you say I dont know But I felt it?
mpls_girl26
04-06-2008, 08:02 AM
I'm going to impart unto you the slobbery wisdom of 30+ years of orally satisfying women of size. Take heed as I won't do it again soon, if ever. Do trust that it is absolutely and unequivocally worth it. Many women of average weight as well as BBW may have difficulty climaxing via vaginal intercourse. NOT a problem. If I sound a little clinical here I apologize but it is something I LOVE doing and it was no small challenge to think of how to say what has worked for my partners and I so many happy times. :eat2:
Of course do your homework anatomically. www.the-clitoris.com is an invaluable resource here. Most of all don't get in a rut, NPI again. What worked last night may not work this morning. She's not a freaking combination lock! Don't be afraid to learn some new dances, Gomer! Hope this helps? :bow:
"You must spread some rep before giving to Ernest" BOOOO!!!
mpls_girl26
04-06-2008, 08:14 AM
Ok I got to ask, because I always look to see when it comes out. I dont know why but i like to watch. Now what happens if nothing comes out she doesnt notice. Do you like turn away or something? Um what if she is a taster? And she tastes NOTHING? LOL I dont know?
OK I GOT IT you say I dont know But I felt it?
Guys can orgasm without cumming.......just like a woman. I have a partner that can have multiple orgasms and then when it's time to let go....watch out! :eat2:
Sorry if TMI.
Ernest Nagel
04-06-2008, 10:39 AM
Ok I got to ask, because I always look to see when it comes out. I dont know why but i like to watch. Now what happens if nothing comes out she doesnt notice. Do you like turn away or something? Um what if she is a taster? And she tastes NOTHING? LOL I dont know?
OK I GOT IT you say I dont know But I felt it?
Guys can orgasm without cumming.......just like a woman. I have a partner that can have multiple orgasms and then when it's time to let go....watch out! :eat2:
Sorry if TMI.
Yes, thanks, mpls_girl, what you say is true. I can also ejaculate a bit without cumming. One useful side benefit of meditation and yoga is that I can make myself hard or flaccid via mind/body control. That helps sell it.
Frankly though none of that often matters. Women who want to believe they are the gold medalists of the the fellati-O-lympics (a LOT of women, btw. You're just as egotistical about your oral skills as us men from what I've experienced) are all too happy to believe they can accomplish what no one else ever has. It's a white lie in my book. Why mess with a perfect record or someone's pride? Is that wrong? To fake when someone's trying so hard?
It's also surprising how many women assume there's no jiz because I've had a vasectomy. :doh: LOL
rissa
04-06-2008, 10:57 AM
great, now i'm going to be paranoid next time i'm, um, performing!
mpls_girl26
04-06-2008, 11:48 AM
Frankly though none of that often matters. Women who want to believe they are the gold medalists of the the fellati-O-lympics (a LOT of women, btw. You're just as egotistical about your oral skills as us men from what I've experienced) are all too happy to believe they can accomplish what no one else ever has. It's a white lie in my book. Why mess with a perfect record or someone's pride? Is that wrong? To fake when someone's trying so hard?
Ahhh....but faking only perpetuates that woman thinking she is great with oral. I happen to think I give pretty damn good head based on feedback and the reactions I get when doing said act. If I really wasn't - should they be responding the way they do and then talking about it non-stop when we are not doing it? I think not.
Women are guilty of the same thing when it comes to oral. I've never told a guy they were fantastic unless in fact they were. I've also never faked an orgasm either. I help guide, direct and if all else fails pull their face away and say I'm ready to go. I'm not shy when saying what I need because I recognize that every woman is different, just like men. Sadly, for some guys you could have a search light down there with arrows and a red pom-pom on your sweet spot and they still wouldn't get what they are suppose to do. All the talking and guidance in the world can't help them.....trust me, I've tried.
And in most cases, size doesn't matter. But when you've got nothing to fall back on - it does. In this guy's case he happens to be very blessed with size and that's why I kept giving it a try. I just learned to throw him on the bed, get on top and get what I needed from him before he tried "warming me up" with oral. Such a shame. :D
LillyBBBW
04-06-2008, 12:19 PM
Yes, thanks, mpls_girl, what you say is true. I can also ejaculate a bit without cumming. One useful side benefit of meditation and yoga is that I can make myself hard or flaccid via mind/body control. That helps sell it.
Frankly though none of that often matters. Women who want to believe they are the gold medalists of the the fellati-O-lympics (a LOT of women, btw. You're just as egotistical about your oral skills as us men from what I've experienced) are all too happy to believe they can accomplish what no one else ever has. It's a white lie in my book. Why mess with a perfect record or someone's pride? Is that wrong? To fake when someone's trying so hard?
It's also surprising how many women assume there's no jiz because I've had a vasectomy. :doh: LOL
Yeah, I was a firm believer in faking it too just to get the whole business over with. I figured I would rather leave the guy's ego exactly the way I found it but I'm reexamining the logic behind this. I've told guys that oral never does anything for me. I've had guys then assure me that they've been with women who made the same claim and was able to satisfy them where no one else can. One guy even came with a testimonial from a mutual friend. *shakes head* I didn't have sex with every guy who asked of course but of the times I was so inclined the guy was busy unfolding his arsenal of varied skills that were quite impressive. It didn't take much to ascertain that he knew what he was doing and enjoyed his work yet and still I was getting tired of being there. It was like getting my teeth cleaned, a dutiful surrender to a skilled and sometimes irritating procedure. I was tired of it and rather than shove him away and say, "Enough," I oohed and ahhed to end things with respect for his admirable efforts. I wonder however how many women have done this to him causing him to strut around thinking his tongue is a magic wand? It would be nice for him to be educated enough to know that not all women are the same and it has nothing to do with him but he's getting a mixed message thanks to people like me just who don't want to be bothered.
Raqui
04-06-2008, 12:24 PM
Yes, thanks, mpls_girl, what you say is true. I can also ejaculate a bit without cumming. One useful side benefit of meditation and yoga is that I can make myself hard or flaccid via mind/body control. That helps sell it.
Frankly though none of that often matters. Women who want to believe they are the gold medalists of the the fellati-O-lympics (a LOT of women, btw. You're just as egotistical about your oral skills as us men from what I've experienced) are all too happy to believe they can accomplish what no one else ever has. It's a white lie in my book. Why mess with a perfect record or someone's pride? Is that wrong? To fake when someone's trying so hard?
It's also surprising how many women assume there's no jiz because I've had a vasectomy. :doh: LOL
I agree I have had many parters who have Full blown orgam's with out ejaculation though it was from another source of stimulation other than oral.
I havent had a man orgasim and not ejaculate from oral. So i was wondering how you can fake it.
Though it makes total sense if they assume you wont because of the little SNIP SNIP.
I personally find it quite interesting how when i make a man orgasm and he is bewildered why he didnt ejaculate. LOL you just got to love the look on his face.
Raqui
Raqui
04-06-2008, 12:27 PM
Yeah, I was a firm believer in faking it too just to get the whole business over with. I figured I would rather leave the guy's ego exactly the way I found it but I'm reexamining the logic behind this. I've told guys that oral never does anything for me. I've had guys then assure me that they've been with women who made the same claim and was able to satisfy them where no one else can. One guy even came with a testimonial from a mutual friend. *shakes head* I didn't have sex with every guy who asked of course but of the times I was so inclined the guy was busy unfolding his arsenal of varied skills that were quite impressive. It didn't take much to ascertain that he knew what he was doing and enjoyed his work yet and still I was getting tired of being there. It was like getting my teeth cleaned, a dutiful surrender to a skilled and sometimes irritating procedure. I was tired of it and rather than shove him away and say, "Enough," I oohed and ahhed to end things with respect for his admirable efforts. I wonder however how many women have done this to him causing him to strut around thinking his tongue is a magic wand? It would be nice for him to be educated enough to know that not all women are the same and it has nothing to do with him but he's getting a mixed message thanks to people like me just who don't want to be bothered.
I also have done the same thing but then i realized that i am just helping another woman to not get satisfied. Educated them is much better and letting them know that not all women are going to be satisfied the same way. He could have been learning something to satisfy me instead of me looking at the ceiling and clock wondering how long this was going to take.
Raqui
04-06-2008, 12:29 PM
great, now i'm going to be paranoid next time i'm, um, performing!
Hey girl do what I do. I play a game called "How does this feel" Then i try diffrent techniques and i say is this better or worse
or you can use Hot and cold
Each man likes diffrent stuff and playing the game is lots of fun and men tend to like it and do the same back.
at the end put all the good ones together and blow their mind. Much fun.
MisterGuy
04-06-2008, 12:45 PM
Ernest--great posts. It's nice to hear from another guy who's not into receiving oral, either. I'm not sure I've met another one. It's pretty frustrating because most women tend to: a) be proud of their oral prowess, as you say, and b) assume that a bj is the most sublime treat you can give a guy. So it's often a major bummer when you tell a partner you don't like it. Which I do, b/c frankly I find it mildly irritating and unpleasurable and if I'm with someone for any duration longer than a one night stand I don't want to deal w/ it all the time.
Love giving oral, though. Frankly, I think a lot of the problems described in this thread come from the fact that most guys have no idea what they're doing in the cunnilingus department, BBW or not. I'm not a jedi master, but have devoted enough time to it to know how bad I was when I started.
Raqui
04-06-2008, 12:54 PM
Ernest--great posts. It's nice to hear from another guy who's not into receiving oral, either. I'm not sure I've met another one. It's pretty frustrating because most women tend to: a) be proud of their oral prowess, as you say, and b) assume that a bj is the most sublime treat you can give a guy. So it's often a major bummer when you tell a partner you don't like it. Which I do, b/c frankly I find it mildly irritating and unpleasurable and if I'm with someone for any duration longer than a one night stand I don't want to deal w/ it all the time.
Love giving oral, though. Frankly, I think a lot of the problems described in this thread come from the fact that most guys have no idea what they're doing in the cunnilingus department, BBW or not. I'm not a jedi master, but have devoted enough time to it to know how bad I was when I started.
It is true I had a few male friends and two boyfriends who just didnt like it and had no mental hang ups on it. It just didnt do it for them and they like other stimulation. I guess for the men who do love it it might not take much to make them cum a warm wet hole is enough and many times even if the woman is totally lacking in tricks and skills it doesnt take much for them to pop the whistle. Even then each man will like his own things some rough some softer some need you to hang upside down. WHO KNOWS NOW A DAYS!!!
But yes there are many men who just rather be up under you then put their pee pee in your mouth.
MisterGuy
04-06-2008, 01:01 PM
It is true I had a few male friends and two boyfriends who just didnt like it and had no mental hang ups on it. It just didnt do it for them and they like other stimulation. I guess for the men who do love it it might not take much to make them cum a warm wet hole is enough and many times even if the woman is totally lacking in tricks and skills it doesnt take much for them to pop the whistle. Even then each man will like his own things some rough some softer some need you to hang upside down. WHO KNOWS NOW A DAYS!!!
But yes there are many men who just rather be up under you then put their pee pee in your mouth.
For me, I think it's a control issue. I can't get off being underneath, either. It sucks, and I wish it wasn't that way, but that's how I am. I wonder if the ladies who have trouble getting off on oral prefer being on top...
Raqui
04-06-2008, 01:10 PM
For me, I think it's a control issue. I can't get off being underneath, either. It sucks, and I wish it wasn't that way, but that's how I am. I wonder if the ladies who have trouble getting off on oral prefer being on top...
Me personally I dont perfer being on top, I have enjoyed being on top depending on the man. In my mind being on top is for the man. I am giving him pleasure with out work. Or much work depending on the man. Being on top does nothing for me but make me sweat. I love the look on my partners and that is all i love about it.
olwen
04-06-2008, 06:04 PM
For me, I think it's a control issue. I can't get off being underneath, either. It sucks, and I wish it wasn't that way, but that's how I am. I wonder if the ladies who have trouble getting off on oral prefer being on top...
I prefer to lie down. That way I can relax and really get into it.
Fyreflyintheskye
04-06-2008, 06:15 PM
Just keep experimenting with various methods until she grabs your ears like handlebars. That's generally the point at which you know you've cracked the safe.
:bow:
Ernest Nagel
04-07-2008, 09:15 AM
Me personally I dont perfer being on top, I have enjoyed being on top depending on the man. In my mind being on top is for the man. I am giving him pleasure with out work. Or much work depending on the man. Being on top does nothing for me but make me sweat. I love the look on my partners and that is all i love about it.
Um, OK, Raqui, you're the one doing all the work when you're on top? AND you're not getting any stimulation from it?!? Wow, not to criticize your partners but that is a great position for the SSBBW I've been with, both for ease and orgasms. Are you doing it feet forward, if I may ask? That is far and away the best for clitoral stimulation. As I recall Lilly may have some female affirmation for this?
As far as the effort on your part, with feet forward if you "butterfly" your legs so that your heels are slightly under or up against his back your partner can grasp the backs of your calves and rock you gently back and forth in a nearly effortless rowing motion. The penetration and stimulation for both parties is exquisite. Very best odds of mutual orgasm, great views, sustainable for hours, I could go on but if you're working it right there's nothing not to like about BBW on top, JMO. That said, if she's not into it, still fine. Lotsa ways to play.
I think I've mentioned it but I was the beneficiary of some very adept SSBBW cougaring when I was in college. Always and forever grateful for how well those lessons have served me and my partners.:wubu:
Butterbelly
04-07-2008, 09:24 AM
Yeah, I was a firm believer in faking it too just to get the whole business over with. I figured I would rather leave the guy's ego exactly the way I found it but I'm reexamining the logic behind this. I've told guys that oral never does anything for me. I've had guys then assure me that they've been with women who made the same claim and was able to satisfy them where no one else can. One guy even came with a testimonial from a mutual friend. *shakes head* I didn't have sex with every guy who asked of course but of the times I was so inclined the guy was busy unfolding his arsenal of varied skills that were quite impressive. It didn't take much to ascertain that he knew what he was doing and enjoyed his work yet and still I was getting tired of being there. It was like getting my teeth cleaned, a dutiful surrender to a skilled and sometimes irritating procedure. I was tired of it and rather than shove him away and say, "Enough," I oohed and ahhed to end things with respect for his admirable efforts. I wonder however how many women have done this to him causing him to strut around thinking his tongue is a magic wand? It would be nice for him to be educated enough to know that not all women are the same and it has nothing to do with him but he's getting a mixed message thanks to people like me just who don't want to be bothered.
Ok, Lilly...I will admit to this. I like oral a certain way and in a certain position. I have to have enough pressure and motion at the same time in order to climax. While a few men have tried only two have ever succeeded, thus I've faked having an orgasm just to get them to stop.
Butterbelly
04-07-2008, 09:26 AM
For me, I think it's a control issue. I can't get off being underneath, either. It sucks, and I wish it wasn't that way, but that's how I am. I wonder if the ladies who have trouble getting off on oral prefer being on top...
I prefer not to be on top.
rissa
04-07-2008, 10:57 AM
i totally agree...being on the bottom is better. wrapping your legs around a guy or putting them over his shoulders is just way more fun...but usually, i don't stick to one position for the entire time. it's fun to try everything!
Raqui
04-07-2008, 02:06 PM
Um, OK, Raqui, you're the one doing all the work when you're on top? AND you're not getting any stimulation from it?!? Wow, not to criticize your partners but that is a great position for the SSBBW I've been with, both for ease and orgasms. Are you doing it feet forward, if I may ask? That is far and away the best for clitoral stimulation. As I recall Lilly may have some female affirmation for this?
As far as the effort on your part, with feet forward if you "butterfly" your legs so that your heels are slightly under or up against his back your partner can grasp the backs of your calves and rock you gently back and forth in a nearly effortless rowing motion. The penetration and stimulation for both parties is exquisite. Very best odds of mutual orgasm, great views, sustainable for hours, I could go on but if you're working it right there's nothing not to like about BBW on top, JMO. That said, if she's not into it, still fine. Lotsa ways to play.
I think I've mentioned it but I was the beneficiary of some very adept SSBBW cougaring when I was in college. Always and forever grateful for how well those lessons have served me and my partners.:wubu:
Alot of people say that and personally it is annoying to me. I dont want a man digging up under my belly and trying to touch my sensitive places. When i am riding him hard and strong or soft and loving or whatever. It bothers the hell out of me and I cannot consintrate on what I am doing. If i happen to move a certain way I can get scratched and then i will definately not be happy. And he doesnt have to have long nails to scratch me. I have gotten scratched before or rubbed the wrong way by someone with no nails.
When a man is taking care of me I should not be working at all in anyway I should be laying back comfortable and recieving pleasure. I dont like any type of distraction at all. no noise, no nonsense. I like to just feel and not do a thing but feel.
Raqui
04-07-2008, 02:08 PM
i totally agree...being on the bottom is better. wrapping your legs around a guy or putting them over his shoulders is just way more fun...but usually, i don't stick to one position for the entire time. it's fun to try everything!
I like it side ways the most. kind of like starting out on my back then turning slowly over to my side almost into a doggie. That gives me the best feeling.
BrunetteBeauty80
04-07-2008, 02:16 PM
I never really cared for oral much before my boyfriend and I started doing it. Others had tried, but they just either gave up after a few minutes and wanted to get down to the "other" stuff, or others just didn't know how to do it. Now, my boyfriend didn't know how to do it at first either. He had never done it before. I just kept pointing him in the right direction, and giving him clues, and now I LOVE it when he does it. In fact, I crave it now.
This is the way I have found it to work best for us. I usually lay on my side/back. My belly gets out of the way then. I then spread as far as I can, and then spread my "cookie" as you call it far apart. Then, he usually uses his own hands to get in there and can go to town. Then, when his hands get tired, I still have my hand down there to give him an "air hole". I know that might sound funny, but he really does like to dive in and doesn't like to have to come up for air, so If I can manage to make a little space so he can breathe, he is more than happy. I am usually able to climax quickly, like within 5 minutes or so. It wasn't like that at first though. It has taken a year to train this man to please me and I am so glad he does it.
Hope my suggestions help a bit.
Sandie_Zitkus
04-07-2008, 02:30 PM
I LOVE ORAL SEX!! Giving and getting. But I must say if he just goes for the cookie right away it aint that good. I need lots of stimulation before that. Kissing and touching and holding and caressing all that until I tell him I'm ready.
I also have an extra large cookie. :) And I have never had a lover not be able to get to my little buddy. :) It's a matte of me spreading my legs wide and him using his hands to spread me the rest of the way.
If your lover is not sensitive to your directions - he's a lousy lover. IMO.
After 16 years Wayne knows all my buttons baby! LOL
Raqui
04-07-2008, 02:49 PM
I never really cared for oral much before my boyfriend and I started doing it. Others had tried, but they just either gave up after a few minutes and wanted to get down to the "other" stuff, or others just didn't know how to do it. Now, my boyfriend didn't know how to do it at first either. He had never done it before. I just kept pointing him in the right direction, and giving him clues, and now I LOVE it when he does it. In fact, I crave it now.
This is the way I have found it to work best for us. I usually lay on my side/back. My belly gets out of the way then. I then spread as far as I can, and then spread my "cookie" as you call it far apart. Then, he usually uses his own hands to get in there and can go to town. Then, when his hands get tired, I still have my hand down there to give him an "air hole". I know that might sound funny, but he really does like to dive in and doesn't like to have to come up for air, so If I can manage to make a little space so he can breathe, he is more than happy. I am usually able to climax quickly, like within 5 minutes or so. It wasn't like that at first though. It has taken a year to train this man to please me and I am so glad he does it.
Hope my suggestions help a bit.
WOO HOO GIRL, I think that is what it takes a many who LOVES TO EAT COOKIES lol HE GOT TO CRAVE A DAMN COOKIE lol HUGS EAT ALL THEM CRUMBS LOL :eat2: :D :smitten:
Raqui
04-07-2008, 02:51 PM
I LOVE ORAL SEX!! Giving and getting. But I must say if he just goes for the cookie right away it aint that good. I need lots of stimulation before that. Kissing and touching and holding and caressing all that until I tell him I'm ready.
I also have an extra large cookie. :) And I have never had a lover not be able to get to my little buddy. :) It's a matte of me spreading my legs wide and him using his hands to spread me the rest of the way.
If your lover is not sensitive to your directions - he's a lousy lover. IMO.
After 16 years Wayne knows all my buttons baby! LOL
WOO HOO we havent been together 16 years. only 2 and change I guess it just takes time and a love for the cookie :)
LillyBBBW
04-07-2008, 03:16 PM
Alot of people say that and personally it is annoying to me. I dont want a man digging up under my belly and trying to touch my sensitive places. When i am riding him hard and strong or soft and loving or whatever. It bothers the hell out of me and I cannot consintrate on what I am doing. If i happen to move a certain way I can get scratched and then i will definately not be happy. And he doesnt have to have long nails to scratch me. I have gotten scratched before or rubbed the wrong way by someone with no nails.
When a man is taking care of me I should not be working at all in anyway I should be laying back comfortable and recieving pleasure. I dont like any type of distraction at all. no noise, no nonsense. I like to just feel and not do a thing but feel.
I suppose it depends on who you are. Between my belly, boobs, arms and other loose appendages that move around violently during intense action my lovers usually enjoy the view from up there very much while it is really distracting and uncomfortable for me lying down. Being on top is fun but sometimes I don't have the stamina for it, my arms can't support me for long and I get winded very quickly. I'm pretty flexible and resourceful so I'm able to twist about and get my legs and feet facing forward towards his head so that I'm 'truly' sitting. In this postion minimal effort is needed for major impact. I get to rock and roll and he gets to see the show from down there pain free so everybody is happy. :) (At least I think so, the few lovers I've had have not complained. :confused: ) You do however need very good furniture for this.
One of my favorite positions is with him seated on the couch and me straddling his lap with my legs around him and my feet secured between the seat cushions. For me that is my favorite most comfortable position and again, no complaints from my few victims so far. Cheap furniture won't work for this either.
Raqui
04-07-2008, 03:22 PM
Cheap furniture won't work for this either.
That is true you need to have furniture that can stand the impact. I do alot of twisting because staying in one position to long is not comfortable all the time. My favortie postion is feet on the wall butt on the bed man in between if he can fit in the space left. My legs are long so there is usually enough room
LillyBBBW
04-07-2008, 03:29 PM
That is true you need to have furniture that can stand the impact. I do alot of twisting because staying in one position to long is not comfortable all the time. My favortie postion is feet on the wall butt on the bed man in between if he can fit in the space left. My legs are long so there is usually enough room
Ooooo.... :smitten: That sounds awesome! :)
Raqui
04-07-2008, 03:47 PM
Girl it is awesome If he wants he can then put your legs on his shoulders.
You can a spread your legs wide or put your ankles on either side of his face and close them.
you can also push off with your feet from the wall and roll back a bit into a new position.
One of the most inventive things i have done is while the man is inbetween my legs usually hims knees on the bed and sitting on his heels
I slips my feet under his butt and almost go into a werid squatting position only i am on my back not my feet.
There is alot you can do and you can really have fun using the leverage from the wall to move around and do stuff.
LillyBBBW
04-07-2008, 03:53 PM
Girl it is awesome If he wants he can then put your legs on his shoulders.
You can a spread your legs wide or put your ankles on either side of his face and close them.
you can also push off with your feet from the wall and roll back a bit into a new position.
One of the most inventive things i have done is while the man is inbetween my legs usually hims knees on the bed and sitting on his heels
I slips my feet under his butt and almost go into a werid squatting position only i am on my back not my feet.
There is alot you can do and you can really have fun using the leverage from the wall to move around and do stuff.
Wow. I hope my legs are long enough because I could *so* work with that. Thanks Raqui! :)
Raqui
04-07-2008, 04:03 PM
Wow. I hope my legs are long enough because I could *so* work with that. Thanks Raqui! :)
even if you have shorter legs you can do it, if you have shorter legs or if you want to raise your butt put some pillows under you.
You can either do one of two ways with shorter legs.
put the pillows under your butt only
but if your breasts are big or that is to much pressure for your chest, fold up blankets long ways and add pillows to make a comfortable raised type of soft platform on the bed for your whole body and get on top of it.
Body pillows work well for this also.
I have many blankets and pillows on my bed so it is quite easy to do this.
If you have enough of them and you get really comfy he might even be able to stand. I havent tried it yet though.
Ernest Nagel
04-07-2008, 04:17 PM
Alot of people say that and personally it is annoying to me. I dont want a man digging up under my belly and trying to touch my sensitive places. When i am riding him hard and strong or soft and loving or whatever. It bothers the hell out of me and I cannot consintrate on what I am doing. If i happen to move a certain way I can get scratched and then i will definately not be happy. And he doesnt have to have long nails to scratch me. I have gotten scratched before or rubbed the wrong way by someone with no nails.
When a man is taking care of me I should not be working at all in anyway I should be laying back comfortable and recieving pleasure. I dont like any type of distraction at all. no noise, no nonsense. I like to just feel and not do a thing but feel.
Where did I say anything about reaching up under anyone's belly?!? Maybe a little belly rubbing or jiggling if she's up for it but the only time my hand might be in betwixt would be for a little brief "guidance" at the beginning. And I promise if you can concentrate while sitting and just being rocked and bounced gently (or not so gently) on a very upright fellow that's ALL you need to be doing. A gentleman fortunate to find himself in that position with a BBW needs to be both grateful and diligent but def not digital, LOL. :rolleyes:
Raqui
04-07-2008, 06:06 PM
Where did I say anything about reaching up under anyone's belly?!? Maybe a little belly rubbing or jiggling if she's up for it but the only time my hand might be in betwixt would be for a little brief "guidance" at the beginning. And I promise if you can concentrate while sitting and just being rocked and bounced gently (or not so gently) on a very upright fellow that's ALL you need to be doing. A gentleman fortunate to find himself in that position with a BBW needs to be both grateful and diligent but def not digital, LOL. :rolleyes:
Oh the body rubbing is fine but once someon starts to mess with the private area i get very annoyed for some reason.
chocolate desire
04-07-2008, 06:35 PM
Ernest--great posts. It's nice to hear from another guy who's not into receiving oral, either. I'm not sure I've met another one. It's pretty frustrating because most women tend to: a) be proud of their oral prowess, as you say, and b) assume that a bj is the most sublime treat you can give a guy.
I guess I am unique because I happen to think a nice spanking with a two toned leather belt with great stitching is the best treat I can give a guy:D.
And Raqui when you are speaking of having a guy cum without having an orgasm are you speaking of milking him? Sorry if I am being to nosey but just wondering if you and I are on the same page:).
TraciJo67
04-07-2008, 06:37 PM
Oh the body rubbing is fine but once someon starts to mess with the private area i get very annoyed for some reason.
Oh, nevermind. Didn't come out as clever as it sounded in my brain.
Raqui
04-07-2008, 07:09 PM
And Raqui when you are speaking of having a guy cum without having an orgasm are you speaking of milking him? Sorry if I am being to nosey but just wondering if you and I are on the same page:).
I call it the A spot women have the G spot men have the A spot. I also incorporate many many other things it become a ritual once I have learned my partner and he is open to this type of experience. Not all men are so you have to be sure it is what he wants.
Also there are ways to make a orgasim happen with out hte A spot being hit. This takes much more time and ritual.
Raqui
chocolate desire
04-08-2008, 04:52 AM
I call it the A spot women have the G spot men have the A spot. I also incorporate many many other things it become a ritual once I have learned my partner and he is open to this type of experience. Not all men are so you have to be sure it is what he wants.
Also there are ways to make a orgasim happen with out hte A spot being hit. This takes much more time and ritual.
Raqui
Girl as I have told you before you rock!!! I hope we get to meet gary said something about you and I and him and Zsa hanging out sometimes . I have my fingers crossed.
Raqui
04-08-2008, 07:57 AM
Girl as I have told you before you rock!!! I hope we get to meet gary said something about you and I and him and Zsa hanging out sometimes . I have my fingers crossed.
Are you going to Vegas Bash this year. My plan is to go. I am doing the whole Queen Raqui thing and getting sponsors to help me get there.
So you heading out there?
JohnWylde
04-09-2008, 03:26 AM
Hi Renee
Now that does sound like an interesting treat - a nice spanking with a belt!
Its an amazing coincidence but I just happen to have a two toned leather belt with great stitching. Would You like to try it out? I do adore a strong woman and if she is an SSBBW then what on earth could be better! :smitten:
Just to prove it I attach a lil pic.
John W
I guess I am unique because I happen to think a nice spanking with a two toned leather belt with great stitching is the best treat I can give a guy:D.
And Raqui when you are speaking of having a guy cum without having an orgasm are you speaking of milking him? Sorry if I am being to nosey but just wondering if you and I are on the same page:).
LillyBBBW
04-09-2008, 04:27 AM
Hi Renee
Now that does sound like an interesting treat - a nice spanking with a belt!
Its an amazing coincidence but I just happen to have a two toned leather belt with great stitching. Would You like to try it out? I do adore a strong woman and if she is an SSBBW then what on earth could be better! :smitten:
Just to prove it I attach a lil pic.
John W
Great day in the mornin', get a room you two. :p
Shosh
04-09-2008, 04:46 AM
I think this has been asked before but I am not sure, but what do guys think of a chubby mons? I am so embarrased actually asking such private questions in public like that!:D:p
Mine is.
JohnWylde
04-09-2008, 05:55 AM
Hi Lilly
I wish we could - just a minor problem of 4000 miles between us!
I love your pics btw very sexxy.
John W
Great day in the mornin', get a room you two. :p
JohnWylde
04-09-2008, 05:57 AM
Well Susannah, speaking personally I just love a lady to have big soft curves ... everywhere. So chubby is just fine as is your chubby mons.
John W
I think this has been asked before but I am not sure, but what do guys think of a chubby mons? I am so embarrased actually asking such private questions in public like that!:D:p
Mine is.
LillyBBBW
04-09-2008, 06:29 AM
Hi Lilly
I wish we could - just a minor problem of 4000 miles between us!
I love your pics btw very sexxy.
John W
Thanks John. :)
chocolate desire
04-09-2008, 07:03 AM
Are you going to Vegas Bash this year. My plan is to go. I am doing the whole Queen Raqui thing and getting sponsors to help me get there.
So you heading out there?
I cannot say for sure yet but I am trying to arrange things so I can go.I am working with Goddess Patty on doing some things while there if I get to. I would love to meet and spend some time with you if I make it. Alot depends on if my guy wants to go or how long he will be here to visit.I am trying to talk him into it but I thinkhe is scared I will drag him to the Elvis chapel of love to get married lol.
chocolate desire
04-09-2008, 07:10 AM
Great day in the mornin', get a room you two. :p
Hi Lilly I don't want just a room I want an entire cabin that is secluded in the woods and perhaps a hot tub on the deck overlooking the bears playing in the mountains. Do you think thats asking for to much?? lol..
chocolate desire
04-09-2008, 07:12 AM
I think this has been asked before but I am not sure, but what do guys think of a chubby mons? I am so embarrased actually asking such private questions in public like that!:D:p
Mine is.
Sooshie I bet you are even more sexier when you blush. Love ya my friend and hope your feeling better.;)
Raqui
04-09-2008, 08:39 AM
I cannot say for sure yet but I am trying to arrange things so I can go.I am working with Goddess Patty on doing some things while there if I get to. I would love to meet and spend some time with you if I make it. Alot depends on if my guy wants to go or how long he will be here to visit.I am trying to talk him into it but I thinkhe is scared I will drag him to the Elvis chapel of love to get married lol.
Well that sounds good I say try your best to get you some work. I wouldnt mind hanging and if anyone wants to work with us together I am down with it. whatever. Patty knows i am down for making it happen so count me in if there is any work involded. HUGS
My man keeps saying watch out VEGAS i think he got the married bug in him and keeps saying we might end up married. LOL
But our families would kill us.
LillyBBBW
04-09-2008, 09:14 AM
Well that sounds good I say try your best to get you some work. I wouldnt mind hanging and if anyone wants to work with us together I am down with it. whatever. Patty knows i am down for making it happen so count me in if there is any work involded. HUGS
My man keeps saying watch out VEGAS i think he got the married bug in him and keeps saying we might end up married. LOL
But our families would kill us.
Yeah but what a way to go. :) I say everybody, EVERYBODY, should experience a Britany Spears Elvis style Vegas wedding at least once before they die.
I will have to miss Vegas this year, in case anyone was wondering. I'm sick about it but I have to move this year and need to reserve my free time from work to get that underway. Otherwise you'd have a free wedding singer on hand for just in case. ;)
Raqui
04-09-2008, 05:25 PM
OH NO Lilly you mean i wont have a wedding singer. THAT IS IT i refuse to get married in vegas now LOL Shoot if i would have know i could get a wedding singer i would have gone to your house instead LOL
chocolate desire
04-09-2008, 09:21 PM
[QUOTE=Raqui;755237]Well that sounds good I say try your best to get you some work. I wouldnt mind hanging and if anyone wants to work with us together I am down with it. whatever. Patty knows i am down for making it happen so count me in if there is any work involded. HUGS
My man keeps saying watch out VEGAS i think he got the married bug in him and keeps saying we might end up married. LOL
But our families would kill us.[/QUOTE} that sounds like to much fun I better take my blood pressure meds lol. I hope we can make all that happen. Renee
Shosh
04-10-2008, 04:46 AM
Sooshie I bet you are even more sexier when you blush. Love ya my friend and hope your feeling better.;)
Thanks angel. I am ok. My legs and feet have been numb for the last several weeks. Effin MS.:rolleyes:
I will be starting on a new injectible medication within the month. I will have to inject myself three times per week with interferon.
Anyway. Whatever.
Meanwhile keep doing your thing Massive Mocha, choccie girl.:p
Love
Shoshie
LillyBBBW
04-10-2008, 09:59 AM
OH NO Lilly you mean i wont have a wedding singer. THAT IS IT i refuse to get married in vegas now LOL Shoot if i would have know i could get a wedding singer i would have gone to your house instead LOL
You, Godesse Patty and Choclate Desire at my house all at the same time would be, like, The Barbie Dream House! :smitten:
chocolate desire
04-10-2008, 11:25 AM
You, Godesse Patty and Choclate Desire at my house all at the same time would be, like, The Barbie Dream House! :smitten:
I hope your floors have extra support beams if that ever happened.
And I am sure news camaras would be everwhere 4 diva's in one spot:D
Raqui
04-10-2008, 11:34 AM
You, Godesse Patty and Choclate Desire at my house all at the same time would be, like, The Barbie Dream House! :smitten:
LET TITLE IT: the big PHAT Barbie Dream HOME :) HUGS :)
Bagalute
04-10-2008, 02:55 PM
You, Godesse Patty and Choclate Desire at my house all at the same time would be, like, The Barbie Dream House! :smitten:
Think of all the guys who wish they looked like Ken right now :p
stevenbbwlvr
04-19-2008, 10:33 PM
I love it.
Most BBW's have labia that cling together. I put my lips right inside to open them, nuzzle/lick/suck the clitoris, and slide a couple fingers in and out of the vagina until I feel the contractions of her coming.
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