Sales of sugary soft drinks to cease soon.

[Miss Vickie]

In schools, that is. ;)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060503/ap_on_re_us/soft_drinks_schools;_ylt=AiFQ49_lIhPBrqTloH2s89ms0 NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

One more reason for me to love President Clinton. Whether or not you agree that childhood fatness is a problem, I think we all agree that far too many kids consume far too much sugar. For years many of us who are concerned parents have been trying to get soft drinks out of schools, and it's fallen on deaf ears because the schools need the lucrative contracts with soft drink manufacturers to make up budgetary gaps.

But Clinton's foundation has teamed up with the American Heart Association to work together and somehow strongarm the distributors of soft drinks to stop selling full sugared sodas at school. I'm still in awe that they managed to do that, but I'm pleased as... um... punch that they did.

(Note to moderators: I wasn't sure where to put this, so if you think it should go elsewhere, feel free to move it. I just thought it could be contentious so I figured I'd start with it here).

[ScreamingChicken]

:rolleyes: Was I the only one who immmediately thought of last night's "Boston Legal" when they saw the title to this thread?:rolleyes:

[Miss Vickie]

That's not a show I watch (I watch way too much TV as it is). Why does it remind you of the show? Now I'm curious...

[ScreamingChicken]

one of the lawyers(Edwin Poole; He makes Denny Crane look downright sane and in fact was fresh from a mental facility)on the show sued on behalf of the diabetic employee of the firm the food and beverage for using high fructose corn syrup in their products. This was only after he was dissuaded from suing the America Diabetes Foundation because he thought the ADF caused diabetes.

[Egbert Souse]

:( Was i the only one who bought Jones Soda (NAS:JSDA) today? :(

[LillyBBBW]

I figure I'll add the contentious part to save our dear moderators from having to suffer the strain of moving this thread. :D

I love Clinton, always have, but in my mind there are far more important issues out there to be raising cane about than to quibble over sodas in a soda machine at the school entrance. If kids don't get it there they will go elsewhere and by 'elsewhere' I mean the candy store, the convenience store, the gas station, the arcade, the bakery, etc. and will as a result have access to more junk food than a cockroach in a 'Little Debbie' factory. They'll pay more for it and the soda companies won't miss a nickle. How nice of them to agree to remove their soda machines from the schools. *eyeroll* They know damn well it won't help anyone but their bottom line.

What needs to be done is do more FOR the schools by funding more after school sports programs, upgrading gym classes with better equipment and nutritional counseling, etc. The sweet drink bait and switch is a whole lot of nothing IMO.

[MissToodles]

also improve the quality of school lunches. Tater tots and pepperoni pizza does not make a nutrtious meal (unless you have pms..)

[EtobicokeFA]

I applaud Clinton work, not for the sugar content, but more for the addictives in them, that you need a chemcial degree to understand.

[TheSadeianLinguist]

also improve the quality of school lunches. Tater tots and pepperoni pizza does not make a nutrtious meal (unless you have pms..)

Seriously, PMSing women need different stuff. :p Me? Cake doughnuts and cheese-filled garlic sticks.

[dan]

I have no problem with the drink companys volunteering not to sell suger rich drinks..As long as it was not legislated..Too much legislation to curve behavior,which in turn limits basic rights..

[swamptoad]

So this is another health-conscious move. I'd like to see people hypothesize will happen good or bad. *ponders*

I agree that children, especially this day in age, are consuming far more sugar content than I ever dreamed of. :shocked:

BTW, my wife and I are taking care of 2 boys (her cousins) that have had candy stashed away in drawers all over the place from their very own mother. :shocked:

That is something that we certainly had to put limitations on. And there definitely were a lot of hiding places. This puzzles me why parents would do such a thing.

[Fuzzy]

Reminds me of school in the 70s when there were no diet beverages, and all the sodas were made with real sugar, none of this corn syrup, aspartame, or splenda.

Yet the experts are claiming now about too much sugar...

[swamptoad]

Mineral balances, so important to our cells, can also be critically upset by our consumption of large amounts of fluids besides water, such as soft drinks, tea, coffee and sugar filled fruit drinks. Since we would no more consider cleansing the outside of our body with one of these beverages why do we think they can replace the incredible cleansing of the inside of our bodies performed by pure clean water? The sugar-laden soft drinks are particularly hard on our livers and their high sodium content causes great upset to the delicate sodium/potassium balance of our cells. It also takes some 30 glasses of water to neutralize the phosphoric acid obtained in just one average size soft drink! An improper pH and mineral balance can cause degeneration of the cells and improper cell function, which in turn leads to the shutting down of proper organ function and the promotion of chronic disease of every kind over a period of time.

and more about Drink More Water ----->

http://www.breadbeckers.com/drinkmorewater.htm

I thought this was interesting to read and share.

At the very bottom is this:

DISCLAIMER: Nothing in this article should be construed as medical advice. Consult you health care provider for your individual nutritional and medical needs. The opinions are strictly those of the author and are not necessarily those of any professional group or other individual.

[Fuzzy]

Mineral balances, so important to our cells, can also be critically upset by our consumption of large amounts of fluids besides water, such as soft drinks, tea, coffee and sugar filled fruit drinks. Since we would no more consider cleansing the outside of our body with one of these beverages why do we think they can replace the incredible cleansing of the inside of our bodies performed by pure clean water? The sugar-laden soft drinks are particularly hard on our livers and their high sodium content causes great upset to the delicate sodium/potassium balance of our cells. It also takes some 30 glasses of water to neutralize the phosphoric acid obtained in just one average size soft drink! An improper pH and mineral balance can cause degeneration of the cells and improper cell function, which in turn leads to the shutting down of proper organ function and the promotion of chronic disease of every kind over a period of time.

and more about Drink More Water ----->

http://www.breadbeckers.com/drinkmorewater.htm

I thought this was interesting to read and share.

At the very bottom is this:

DISCLAIMER: Nothing in this article should be construed as medical advice. Consult you health care provider for your individual nutritional and medical needs. The opinions are strictly those of the author and are not necessarily those of any professional group or other individual.

OMGosh! I need to drink 30 glasses of water with every Coke!!! :shocked:

[swamptoad]

OMGosh! I need to drink 30 glasses of water with every Coke!!! :shocked:

Freaked me out too. :shocked:

Before I read it I just realized that I already had about 4 cokes earlier today. *YIKES*

hehehe :D

and what the heck I just had another. :doh: *ack*

[moonvine]

BFB has an interesting take on this:

http://www.bigfatblog.com/archives/001837.php#more

[moonvine]

Also re: Sugar causing obesity, I thought this was interesting. Vickie, what is your take on this?

With the resurrection of low-carbohydrate mania in recent years in the United States many anti-obesity, childhood nutrition initiatives have focused on trying to reduce and/or eliminate various sources of sugar from children’s diets. Soft drinks and foods with added sugars (sweets) have been particularly singled out as contributing significantly to the obesity problem. This has led numerous school systems to restrict or ban soda on their grounds. (28-30) Other schools have prohibited the consumption of sweets during birthday parties, and still others have actually searched children’s lunches and confiscated foods considered to be “unhealthy.” (31-33) Unfortunately, the science supporting the indictment of sugary foods in the etiology of obesity is virtually nonexistent. A large recent study that followed some 12,000 children and adolescents from 1 to 19 years old failed to find an increase in the consumption of carbonated beverages from 1978 to 1998 in any age group. (34) Furthermore, most studies do not show a positive relationship between sugar intake and obesity in children, instead indicating a high intake among all BMI categories. (35-38) Paradoxically, in one recent study, there was actually an inverse relationship between weight and soda drinking; teenagers who drank the most soda were actually the skinniest. (39) Contrary to popular opinion, the research overwhelmingly suggests that sweeteners have little affect on the nutrients children and teens receive or on the quality of their diet. (40, 41)

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Link: http://www.tcsdaily.com/sections/whitepaperandref-robison.pdf

[moonvine]

Mineral balances, so important to our cells, can also be critically upset by our consumption of large amounts of fluids besides water, such as soft drinks, tea, coffee and sugar filled fruit drinks. Since we would no more consider cleansing the outside of our body with one of these beverages why do we think they can replace the incredible cleansing of the inside of our bodies performed by pure clean water? The sugar-laden soft drinks are particularly hard on our livers and their high sodium content causes great upset to the delicate sodium/potassium balance of our cells. It also takes some 30 glasses of water to neutralize the phosphoric acid obtained in just one average size soft drink! An improper pH and mineral balance can cause degeneration of the cells and improper cell function, which in turn leads to the shutting down of proper organ function and the promotion of chronic disease of every kind over a period of time.

and more about Drink More Water ----->

http://www.breadbeckers.com/drinkmorewater.htm

I thought this was interesting to read and share.

At the very bottom is this:

DISCLAIMER: Nothing in this article should be construed as medical advice. Consult you health care provider for your individual nutritional and medical needs. The opinions are strictly those of the author and are not necessarily those of any professional group or other individual.


Huh? I guess the mineral balances in my body have been out of whack since I was about 12 years old (I wasn't allowed soda, but drank unsweetened tea day and night).

I don't really drink water ever.

S]ome nutritionists insist that half the country is walking around dehydrated. We drink too much coffee, tea and sodas containing caffeine, which prompts the body to lose water, they say; and when we are dehydrated, we don't know enough to drink.

Can it be so? Should healthy adults really be stalking the water cooler to protect themselves from creeping dehydration?

Not at all, doctors say. "The notion that there is widespread dehydration has no basis in medical fact," says Dr. Robert Alpern, dean of the medical school at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas.

Doctors from a wide range of specialties agree: By all evidence, we are a well-hydrated nation. Furthermore, they say, the current infatuation with water as an all-purpose health potion — tonic for the skin, key to weight loss — is a blend of fashion and fiction and very little science.
Additionally, the idea that one must specifically drink water because the diuretic effects of caffeinated drinks such as coffee, tea, and soda actually produce a net loss of fluid appears to be erroneous. The average person retains about half to two-thirds the amount of fluid taken in by consuming these types of beverages, and those who regularly consume caffeinated drinks retain even more:

Regular coffee and tea drinkers become accustomed to caffeine and lose little, if any, fluid. In a study published in the October issue of the Journal of the American College of Nutrition, researchers at the Center for Human Nutrition in Omaha measured how different combinations of water, coffee and caffeinated sodas affected the hydration status of 18 healthy adults who drink caffeinated beverages routinely.

"We found no significant differences at all," says nutritionist Ann Grandjean, the study's lead author. "The purpose of the study was to find out if caffeine is dehydrating in healthy people who are drinking normal amounts of it. It is not."

The same goes for tea, juice, milk and caffeinated sodas: One glass provides about the same amount of hydrating fluid as a glass of water. The only common drinks that produce a net loss of fluids are those containing alcohol — and usually it takes more than one of those to cause noticeable dehydration, doctors say.


http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp