Cnn vs. the President

[HappyFatChick]

CNN aired the president's rehearsal for his speech tonight. I despise that pathetic network. They are doing everything they can to make him look foolish. Remember when they aired Cheney's speech with a black X on his face. Despicable....:mad:

[Wayne_Zitkus]

CNN aired the president's rehearsal for his speech tonight. I despise that pathetic network. They are doing everything they can to make him look foolish. Remember when they aired Cheney's speech with a black X on his face. Despicable....:mad:
HFC, it doesn't take much to make Bush look foolish.

[CurvaceousBBWLover]

By nature, George W. Bush is a fool. It's not even worth it to get upset. He's a pathetic embarrassment for our country.

[Ivy]

[QUOTE=HappyFatChick] They are doing everything they can to make him look foolish. [QUOTE]

They don't really need to do anything. He does it all on his own.
His momma should be proud... the sad thing is, she probably is.
So unfortunate.

[moonvine]

HFC, it doesn't take much to make Bush look foolish.

No doubt....

[Sandie S-R]

CNN aired the president's rehearsal for his speech tonight. I despise that pathetic network. They are doing everything they can to make him look foolish. Remember when they aired Cheney's speech with a black X on his face. Despicable....:mad:

CNN (and everyone else for that matter) doesn't have to do a thing to make Bush look foolish. He's real good at doing that all on his own. Any public official who blatently mispronounces words (NUKULAR), and arrogantly refuses to learn how to speak more properly in pubic gets what he deserves.

Boy I miss the most elloquent public speaker ever, President Clinton.

[EtobicokeFA]

The real work is making Bush look presidental.

[Miss Vickie]

HFC, it doesn't take much to make Bush look foolish.

Yep. All it takes is a camera and a microphone. Bad CNN. No biscuit. :)

[Seth Warren]

The camera doesn't lie.

I'm sure no one is forcing you to watch CNN if you hate it so much. The Propaganda Network (aka: Faux News) is likely a few clicks down the dial.

I suspect that you just like to whine. Yep, that's it...you're whiney like a...

liberal!

:kiss2:

[LarryTheShiveringChipmunk]

CNN jumped the gun as apparantly NBC did a fade out of the Presidential Seal early prompting someone to thing the speech was about to begin.

[missaf]

Boy I miss the most elloquent public speaker ever, President Clinton.

Kennedy was, actually :) But Clinton learned from the best :)

[missaf]

Yep. All it takes is a camera and a microphone. Bad CNN. No biscuit. :)


CNN is so ad-hoc I won't even watch them anymore. Poor journalism all around.

[Seth Warren]

Kennedy was, actually :) But Clinton learned from the best :)

This brings to mind (mine anyhow) this off colour question: is the country just better off when the President is getting tail left and right?

*ducks*

[LarryTheShiveringChipmunk]

Kennedy was, actually :) But Clinton learned from the best :)

I thought it was William Henry Harrison.


Actually I always liked Teddy Roosevelts style

[Miss Vickie]

CNN is so ad-hoc I won't even watch them anymore. Poor journalism all around.

I think it hasn't been the same since they tossed Aaron Brown out on his ass in favor of Mr GQ Hisself, Anderson Cooper. I still watch it sometimes, but so many of the anchors are so flippin' stupid and the banter so unbelievably banal that it puts my teeth on edge.

[Littleghost]

I thought it was William Henry Harrison.


Actually I always liked Teddy Roosevelts style
Ahh, the Bull Moose party. Whatever happened to the alternative to a two-party system? It'd be nice if there was another party with an actual chance.

Checks the 'other' box far too often,
--Littleghost

[NYEmtEsq]

Boy I miss the most elloquent public speaker ever, President Clinton.

I will concede that Clinton was an eloquent speaker, but Clinton, unlike other leaders in the Twentieth Century, was never able to rally the overwhelming groundswells of support for his causes that other leaders of the Twentieth Century were able to. After all, Clinton was the only freely elected president ever impeached (for what amounts to a piss-ant D class felony), whereas other leaders of the past century were so eloquent as to be able to rally mass support for what amounted to crimes against the entirety of humanity.

[Paul Fannin]

CNN aired the president's rehearsal for his speech tonight. I despise that pathetic network. They are doing everything they can to make him look foolish. Remember when they aired Cheney's speech with a black X on his face. Despicable....:mad:

Don't worry about it Happy, my friend. Check the ratings. Nobody watches CNN anymore. Their blatant lack of objectivity is exceeded only by their abject irrelevance.

[Alicia Rose]

All the news networks are corporate, and therefore conservative. CNN doesn't make Bush look stupid, Bush makes Bush look stupid. They just point the camera at him.

Though Fox is more conservative than most... They point the camera at him and, when he says something dumb, agree with him loudly. :p

=Divals

[HappyFatChick]

Why am I not surprised this thread was hijacked by liberals?
I should have known better.

We really can't have a decent discussion of a current issue without personal attacks starting up. Pathetic...:(

p.s. to Chippy: the producer is a friend of the guy who got fired for
putting the X on Cheney's face during his speech. It was no
accident.

and to Paul: You're right. CNN's ratings are falling like the rest of the liberal
media.:D

[Alicia Rose]

Why am I not surprised this thread was hijacked by liberals?
I should have known better.

We really can't have a decent discussion of a current issue without personal attacks starting up. Pathetic...:(

p.s. to Chippy: the producer is a friend of the guy who got fired for
putting the X on Cheney's face during his speech. It was no
accident.

and to Paul: You're right. CNN's ratings are falling like the rest of the liberal
media.:D

1. We have not hijacked the thread. Hijacking the thread would be if, instead of talking about CNN and presidential speechification, we talked about cheese, beer, et cetera, which has not happened. The thread is still firmly on the path you set it on.

2. Personal attacks? Where?

3. As stated before, CNN is part of the corporate media, which is conservative. The liberal media, consisting primarily of magazines (UTNE and so on), is running fine.

p.s.: Why you so belligerent? I thought you were supposed to be happy. Maybe a better SN would be 'AngryFatChick' or even 'PissyFatChick' or 'PsychoFatChick.'
p.p.s.: Ignoring a problem (or different opinion) won't make it go away, it just makes the ignorer look dumb :)

=Divals

[HappyFatChick]

Divals- my God defeated your God over 2000 years ago. I have nothing to discuss with you.

[Alicia Rose]

Divals- my God defeated your God over 2000 years ago. I have nothing to discuss with you.

Case in point.

Do you even know what my God is?

My God is nature. My God is life. My God is love.

If you believe that anything can overthrow these things...

Well, you're probably right.

But a world without love is one that I would not want to live in.

=Divals

[LarryTheShiveringChipmunk]

I will concede that Clinton was an eloquent speaker, but Clinton, unlike other leaders in the Twentieth Century, was never able to rally the overwhelming groundswells of support for his causes that other leaders of the Twentieth Century were able to. After all, Clinton was the only freely elected president ever impeached (for what amounts to a piss-ant D class felony), whereas other leaders of the past century were so eloquent as to be able to rally mass support for what amounted to crimes against the entirety of humanity.

Clinton also had the disadvantage of never having 50% of the vote in either election.
Granted JFK didn't have 50% either. But Teddy R had 56.4% in the 1904 election. FDR had 57.4%, 60.8%, 54.7%, and 53.3% in his, and Reagan had 50.8% and 58.8%.

[LarryTheShiveringChipmunk]

3. As stated before, CNN is part of the corporate media, which is conservative. The liberal media, consisting primarily of magazines (UTNE and so on), is running fine.

CNN is the offspring of Ted Turner who's hiring decisions before he left I am sure have an influence on the corporate culture. Don't forget AOL Time Warner also owns magazines too.

[Alicia Rose]

The lack of response from HFC merely illustrates my point. But perhaps I am jumping the gun, as it were, by expecting her to make an intelligible post so soon after being barraged with something so alien to her mindset.

True, Larry. But I wasn't saying that all magazines are liberal, merely that liberality is more often seen in the printed medium.

=Divals

[LarryTheShiveringChipmunk]

True, but not all corporations are conservative either, depends on the head(s). One can make a strong assertion that due to Ted Turner's many years in charge of CNN, some of his personal policies have been imprinted in the corporate culture. Likewise we see Rupert Murdoch's personal policies in effect over at Fox.

[Alicia Rose]

True, but not all corporations are conservative either, depends on the head(s). One can make a strong assertion that due to Ted Turner's many years in charge of CNN, some of his personal policies have been imprinted in the corporate culture. Likewise we see Rupert Murdoch's personal policies in effect over at Fox.

Good point.

I suppose I'm rather jaded :p

=Divals

[dan]

Why am I not surprised this thread was hijacked by liberals?
I should have known better.

We really can't have a decent discussion of a current issue without personal attacks starting up. Pathetic...:(

p.s. to Chippy: the producer is a friend of the guy who got fired for
putting the X on Cheney's face during his speech. It was no
accident.

and to Paul: You're right. CNN's ratings are falling like the rest of the liberal
media.:D HFC....Your outnumbered here, but I do agree with most everything you say..By the way I can't believe all the attacks on you..I notice that liberals always personally attack there adversarys..That is a Clintoness tactic means to silence you.. they ..ATTACK,ATTACK.ATTACK.and the conservatives roll over like cheap cameras. I am glad you don't..

[LarryTheShiveringChipmunk]

HFC....Your outnumbered here, but I do agree with most everything you say..By the way I can't believe all the attacks on you..I notice that liberals always personally attack there adversarys..That is a Clintoness tactic means to silence you.. they ..ATTACK,ATTACK.ATTACK.and the conservatives roll over like cheap cameras. I am glad you don't..

This does seem to be a more liberal slanted audience. I like it though. It gives me more to discuss than my more conservative slanted board.

[EtobicokeFA]

1) The conservatives are not the underdogs. They run almost everything in Washington. So they shouldn't be able to claim to be the underdogs anymore.

2) Not everything that Fox News says is true, just like not everything CNN says is true.

3) Because a liberals voiced their opinion does not automatic mean they hijacked the conversation.

4) They is a difference between make fun of a president and personaly attacking him.

[HappyFatChick]

Dan- This was a mostly liberal board when I first started reading years ago.
Everytime someone posted something even remotely Christian/conservative/ Republican (CCR) they were flamed with extra gas.

The attacks are no surprise and don't faze me. I am a female CCR and that's almost unheard of on here. Plus that's all some democrats have is personal attacks. And they do get pretty nasty.

[Jes]

. I am a female CCR and that's almost unheard of on here. Plus that's all some democrats have is personal attacks. And they do get pretty nasty.
Now you listen, missy! I may not know much about politics, but I do know rock and roll! and there were NO women members in Credence Clearwater Revival, you got that?

[dan]

1) The conservatives are not the underdogs. They run almost everything in Washington. So they shouldn't be able to claim to be the underdogs anymore.


4) They is a difference between make fun of a president and personaly attacking him.
Lets change the words here and tell me you still agree...4) They is a difference between make fun of a fat chick and personally attacking her.[/QUOTE]

[EtobicokeFA]

Lets change the words here and tell me you still agree...4) They is a difference between make fun of a fat chick and personally attacking her.[/quote]

Okay, you got me there. But, is it so bad to make fun of the policies of a president?

Are you telling me that Bushisms doesn't make you giggle, just a bit?

[LarryTheShiveringChipmunk]

Heres a difference I note.

No president, liberal or conservative is out to:

- destroy the rainforests
- take away your jobs
- push senior citizens down the stairs
- sell nuclear (or nukular) secrets to anyone
- rule the world via American Imperialism
- kill babies

Making fun of, or disagreeing with sacrcasm/wit the policies or style of a president is one thing...

Unfounded accusations like above is another and shows a lack of intelligence.

[dan]

Okay, you got me there. But, is it so bad to make fun of the policies of a president?

Are you telling me that Bushisms doesn't make you giggle, just a bit?[/QUOTE]I do find him do be imbarrising,especially when he speaks with other world leaders,on the world stage...I'm no Bushee,trust me.. I sure hope we elect Rudy G for the Republican candidate. He is a strong fearless smart cunning leader of a man who I feel this country needs after 16 years with NO compass or direction..The world sees us as being weak, and I believe he could turn it all around,he will with alot of opposition,. then Chavez and his ilk will run for cover..

[EtobicokeFA]

Okay, you got me there. But, is it so bad to make fun of the policies of a president?

Are you telling me that Bushisms doesn't make you giggle, just a bit?I do find him do be imbarrising,especially when he speaks with other world leaders,on the world stage...I'm no Bushee,trust me.. I sure hope we elect Rudy G for the Republican candidate. He is a strong fearless smart cunning leader of a man who I feel this country needs after 16 years with NO compass or direction..The world sees us as being weak, and I believe he could turn it all around,he will with alot of opposition,. then Chavez and his ilk will run for cover..[/quote]

I agree! A guy or girl that is strong and fearless enough to take the country into war, when it needs to, but not so gun happy as to go to war, at the drop of a hat! He or she must also be smart and creative enough to come up with solutions to the nations problems, and carry them through.

That would be the prefect president!

[Alicia Rose]

HFC....Your outnumbered here, but I do agree with most everything you say..By the way I can't believe all the attacks on you..I notice that liberals always personally attack there adversarys..That is a Clintoness tactic means to silence you.. they ..ATTACK,ATTACK.ATTACK.and the conservatives roll over like cheap cameras. I am glad you don't..

I like how disagreeing with her means that I'm attacking her. Or were you talking about the part where she attacked me and I defended myself?

Enough with the nonsense. Do the world a favor and educate yourself as to what really goes on.

=Divals

[HappyFatChick]

Oprah is trying to give fellow liberal Anderson Cooper a boost in ratings by airing a glossy story about him. I doubt it will work. And his mother (Gloria Vanderbuilt) has carved her face into an alien-looking being in a desperate attempt to look young. He is fairly attractive for a small/short guy tho.

[FitChick]

CNN aired the president's rehearsal for his speech tonight. I despise that pathetic network. They are doing everything they can to make him look foolish. Remember when they aired Cheney's speech with a black X on his face. Despicable....:mad:

Forget CNN, watch Fox. Works for me. :)

[Tina]

They're all crap. I'd rather get my news on the net.

[kilo riley]

Oprah is trying to give fellow liberal Anderson Cooper a boost in ratings by airing a glossy story about him. I doubt it will work. And his mother (Gloria Vanderbuilt) has carved her face into an alien-looking being in a desperate attempt to look young. He is fairly attractive for a small/short guy tho.

How do you know he is a liberal? just because he's gay?

[Zandoz]

Outside of portions of local news...upcoming events and useful things like weather and traffic reports...what is called news, no matter the outlet, is misnamed...it's olds. Over and done with stuff that the listener/reader/viewer has no power to influence. Unless it's total fluff, no matter how it's relayed, or what slant is put on it, there are going to be some folks who take pointless glee...and some who take pointless indignation. The key there is the word pointless...it's over and done with! It will quickly be forgotten when replaced by the next glee/indignation pumping trivia.

Political news conferences/speeches...regardless of the giver...so much spin that it's a miracle that the cameras can focus...unwound by the reverse rotation spin of of the rebuttals that follow. Net result...none. What ever the speech/conference was about is either over and done, will never happen, or will happen regardless of the opinions of those getting dizzy from all that spin. The analysis that follows...see above commentary on News.