View Full Version : Al Gore to run in 2008????
Sandie_Zitkus
05-17-2006, 05:33 AM
I heard recently that there are a growing number of dems that want to draft Al to run again in 2008. I think it's a bad move - I think his time has passed. Besides if he does run I would bet good money on Hillary jumping parties to run.
What do you think??:confused:
I heard recently that there are a growing number of dems that want to draft Al to run again in 2008. I think it's a bad move - I think his time has passed. Besides if he does run I would bet good money on Hillary jumping parties to run.
What do you think??:confused:Whacky Al.. Did he re-invent his personality again.?? I'm no Hillary fan, but she'll mop the floor with Gore,clean the toilet with Kerry..IMHO
Sandie_Zitkus
05-17-2006, 05:49 AM
Whacky Al.. Did he re-invent his personality again.?? I'm no Hillary fan, but she'll mop the floor with Gore,clean the toilet with Kerry..IMHO
I find Hillary increasingly dangerous. Her ambition is blinding her to what's best for the country. She wants to win at all costs. That is not a good leader - that is a power monger.
I find Hillary increasingly dangerous. Her ambition is blinding her to what's best for the country. She wants to win at all costs. That is not a good leader - that is a power monger.I believe the deal is done in Washington, The Bush, Clinton era will continue.I do also find her to be dangerous,but she is very very powerful already..Hopefully a moderate conservative Democrat,with common sense will emerge,Maybe Conservatives will even vote for Him/her.
HappyFatChick
05-17-2006, 06:12 AM
I posted that some time ago (the Gore thing). My sources say the dem base really wants to run him. They know Hil has too many scandals, is disliked, and can't win.
I hope they run Hil. It would be a very colorful campaign.
Zandoz
05-17-2006, 08:44 AM
That is not a good leader - that is a power monger.
A politician that's a power monger?!?!?!?!?! Say it ain't so!!!
it doesn't matter who runs...what matters is the gullible people who will vote for them.
Noneda Bove in 2008!!!!
Alicia Rose
05-17-2006, 08:46 AM
The only people who would truly be good presidents and senators and suchlike don't want the job.
=Divals
The only people who would truly be good presidents and senators and suchlike don't want the job.
=DivalsIf all Executive,legislative jobs were part time,volunteer,no benefit jobs,I believe we would get true,or at least much better representation.Take the profit out,and the jobs would not be a magnet for crooks.We would get a much higher quality person willing to give of themselves. Probably get less lawyers,and more working class Reps.That is what we really need.
moonvine
05-17-2006, 09:34 AM
The only people who would truly be good presidents and senators and suchlike don't want the job.
I have a wonderful, wonderful Congressman I would love to see run for President. I don't think you can really jump through the ranks like that though.
And call me naive, but don't the primaries select who is going to run for President? None of the people I really would want to be President ever win the primaries, which is kind of annoying.
CleverBomb
05-17-2006, 10:47 AM
If all Executive,legislative jobs were part time,volunteer,no benefit jobs,I believe we would get true,or at least much better representation.Take the profit out,and the jobs would not be a magnet for crooks.We would get a much higher quality person willing to give of themselves. Probably get less lawyers,and more working class Reps.That is what we really need.
The real money isn't in the salary. It's in the patronage, the not-quite-blind trusts, the real estate at unusually low prices, the loans of corporate jets, the deals for books that sell tens of thousands of copies that mysteriously end up in dusty warehouses, the speaking fees, the lobbying job a couple of years after retirement, etc, etc.
An honest crook is one who stays bought. I'm thinking that we need to take a cue from NASCAR, and have these guys wear patches with the logos of their major contributors on their suits.
And what's wrong with lawyers as legislators?
You'd prefer laws written by people who don't know how the legal system works? Kind of like hiring a carpenter to work on your car because you don't trust mechanics... :)
-Rusty
Paul Fannin
05-17-2006, 10:51 AM
I heard recently that there are a growing number of dems that want to draft Al to run again in 2008. I think it's a bad move - I think his time has passed. Besides if he does run I would bet good money on Hillary jumping parties to run.
What do you think??:confused:
He's running Sandie.
But Hillary jumping parties? Jumping to what, our side?
Keep your money in your pocket
NYEmtEsq
05-17-2006, 12:18 PM
An honest crook is one who stays bought. I'm thinking that we need to take a cue from NASCAR, and have these guys wear patches with the logos of their major contributors on their suits.
-Rusty
Now THAT's a campaign finance reform scheme that doesn't violate the First Amendment. Remove all of the artificial cielings on campaign contribuitions and require reporting of the source of every dollar contributed. That type of light would sterilize all of the grime that is currently allowed to grow in dank, dark backrooms, while protecting my right to contribute according to my means to the candidate of my choice.
As to the topic at hand, Hillary's recent moderation is the same act taken from hubby's 1992 playbook: seem to moderate to attract the centrist voters. After all, it's not the base of either party which carries the day (how many people have ever went into a voting booth and pulled the lever for the lesser of two evils.....I've voted against plenty of candidates in my day, but I can only remember voting FOR a handful). The difference between Hillary and Bill's seeming moderation is that Bill was able to control his emotions, Hillary's vitriol for conservatives and Republicans still bleeds through. Trust me, this woman is no moderate, and she's certainly not jumping across any fences.
CleverBomb
05-17-2006, 12:36 PM
As far as I know, former V.P. Gore has not announced his intention to run.
If he chooses to, I think he'd represent the Democratic Party quite well -- and stand a very good chance of winning.
-Rusty
LarryTheShiveringChipmunk
05-17-2006, 01:55 PM
Vote Chippy!
missaf
05-17-2006, 02:03 PM
Here ya go (http://dcjobsource.com/presidentialsalaries.html)
Senators only make $160k as far as salaray goes, with the whips and leaders making up to $181k The lobbying crap is where their real money comes in, and that comes from stupid back doors and promises of kobs and money after they are out of office.
The President makes $400k a year, plus bennies.
missaf
05-17-2006, 02:05 PM
I'm not sure who's more scary, Hillary or Al, but I'd take Al over Hillary or Kerry.
moonvine
05-17-2006, 02:48 PM
Senators only make $160k as far as salaray goes, with the whips and leaders making up to $181k The lobbying crap is where their real money comes in, and that comes from stupid back doors and promises of kobs and money after they are out of office.
The President makes $400k a year, plus bennies.
Only 160k per year? I don't see how a person can live on that!:doh:
With the best retirement benefits in the U.S., bar none.
1300 Class
05-17-2006, 06:19 PM
Gore as VP again lol.
Fuzzy
05-17-2006, 09:26 PM
The main indicator whether Hillary will run in '08, is if she retains her seat in the Senate. Also look how much money she's raising for HERSELF, and not the DNC.
Al Gore? Who's afraid of the ManBearPig? ;) (South Park Humor) No chance.
JudgeDredd425
05-17-2006, 09:43 PM
An honest crook is one who stays bought. I'm thinking that we need to take a cue from NASCAR, and have these guys wear patches with the logos of their major contributors on their suits.
-Rusty
I love that idea with the patches. That is truly brilliant!
JudgeDredd425
05-17-2006, 09:46 PM
Here ya go (http://dcjobsource.com/presidentialsalaries.html)
Senators only make $160k as far as salaray goes, with the whips and leaders making up to $181k The lobbying crap is where their real money comes in, and that comes from stupid back doors and promises of kobs and money after they are out of office.
The President makes $400k a year, plus bennies.
It's clearly about money on the back-end and the power up front. Why else would someone spend millions of dollars campaigning to gain a job that pays less than 200K?
Sandie_Zitkus
05-17-2006, 09:53 PM
It's clearly about money on the back-end and the power up front. Why else would someone spend millions of dollars campaigning to gain a job that pays less than 200K?
It's all about power. It's never been about anything else.
CleverBomb
05-18-2006, 02:49 AM
It's all about power. It's never been about anything else.
True.
But, in line with my remarks about sponsor logos:
"Yeah, they're all bought. So vote for the guy bought by the people you trust."
(Or, perhaps, "distrust less.")
And, it's a question of picking people whose self-interests align with yours, so
that if they get what they say they want, it works out ok for you anyhow.
-Rusty
CurvaceousBBWLover
05-18-2006, 03:34 AM
Al Gore certainly has the experience and the intelligence to run. But the question is whether red America can deal with an intelligent president. I don't think red America will accept him.
I heard recently that there are a growing number of dems that want to draft Al to run again in 2008. I think it's a bad move - I think his time has passed. Besides if he does run I would bet good money on Hillary jumping parties to run.
What do you think??:confused:
CurvaceousBBWLover
05-18-2006, 03:35 AM
Hillary has all the makings of a great president. I would support her for president had she not favored the unnecesary war in Iraq.
I believe the deal is done in Washington, The Bush, Clinton era will continue.I do also find her to be dangerous,but she is very very powerful already..Hopefully a moderate conservative Democrat,with common sense will emerge,Maybe Conservatives will even vote for Him/her.
HappyFatChick
05-18-2006, 05:19 AM
Curv- How would you have handled Saddam? Remember he repeatedly defied the UN orders to cease his programs of weapons of mass destruction and genocide. He is an evil abomination of a human being.
And as far as Al Gore goes, do you really think American will vote for a man who mocked our president during a time of war when we had troops in harms' way. I dunno...
p.s. peaceful negotiations were long gone and France, Germany, and the rest of our "allies" were in bed with Saddam.
Littleghost
05-18-2006, 05:39 AM
The only people who would truly be good presidents and senators and suchlike don't want the job.
Funny thing. Mark Twain said much the same thing, all those years ago.
Reports of my death are mostly exaggerated,
--Littleghost
Al Gore certainly has the experience and the intelligence to run. But the question is whether red America can deal with an intelligent president. I don't think red America will accept him.Al Gore is a real Genius!!!!!
NYEmtEsq
05-18-2006, 09:40 AM
Al Gore certainly has the experience and the intelligence to run. But the question is whether red America can deal with an intelligent president. I don't think red America will accept him.
He is one of the smartest men alive. After all, he invented the internet.
(and they roasted Quayle for spelling potatoe with an "e"....)
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