Carlin and Coulter to be on Tonight show!

[MisticalMisty]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060613/ap_en_tv/tv_coulter_and_carlin_2

[Miss Vickie]

Definitely a Must-Tivo-TV. ;) I'll be working that night but I definitely won't miss this.

[1300 Class]

Should be very interesting.

[Sandie S-R]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060613/ap_en_tv/tv_coulter_and_carlin_2


I hope that George rips her a new one. He's just the guy to do it!

[FEast]

Thanks for the heads up, Misty! Nowadays, I usually have trouble keeping my eyes open that late, but that's why VCRs were created, right? Should be fun!~Bountifully, Fuchsia

[TheSadeianLinguist]

I have to work too, but OMG. That will be so awesome. It's probably best I don't watch it live for fear of peeing myself as Carlin goes off on the poor little missy.

[HappyFatChick]

That old, burned-out,hippy-freak, has-been Carlin doesn't stand a chance against Ann. The libs need to try to find someone a little more coherent. Like
Keith Richards maybe?:D

[fatlane]

Your use of ironic litotes is incredible. It almost sounds like you're actually cheering for Ann Coulter. I had to read your post twice before I got the joke.

[Alicia Rose]

This should be interesting...

GO CARLIN! WOO!

=Divals

[mossystate]

Already chuckling over the promise of this one....BUT..I hope Carlin is sharp...over the years he has gotten a bit...stale...Will be fun to see....

[Seth Warren]

That old, burned-out,hippy-freak, has-been Carlin doesn't stand a chance against Ann. The libs need to try to find someone a little more coherent. Like
Keith Richards maybe?:D

Ha! There is more depth and meaning in a "fuck you" from George Carlin than in all of the collected works of Coulter. Keep on cheerleading though - the veritably empty gymnasium you stand in won't care one iota.

[Fuzzy]

I seriously doubt that Carlin and Coulter will exchange barbs. Knowing how "conservative" Leno is, He'll probably interview them both separately and between commercial breaks.

If he doesn't, Carlin maybe one of the rudest comedy acts around, but he is also a character actor on PBS. Carlin will be a gentleman, and Coulter will probably put her foot in her mouth.

But I think Ann is still a babe.

[Mini]

But I think Ann is still a babe.

Absolutely. Her inners need to be probed with a stick of man.

[Wayne_Zitkus]

That old, burned-out,hippy-freak, has-been Carlin doesn't stand a chance against Ann. The libs need to try to find someone a little more coherent. Like
Keith Richards maybe?:D
George Carlin will make mincemeat out of poor little Annie. He may look burned out, but his mind is as sharp as ever, as evidenced by his guest appearances on Bill Maher's HBO show where he leaves the more conservative guests in the dust.

[Anguisette]

I can't stand Ann Coulter. She is a pig, and has no concept of what is appropriate to say.

But George isn't so much a political mind as a philosophical one, and he may disappoint people who want to see her get it. Jeanneane Garafolo would have been a better choice. ;)

[TraciJo67]

Absolutely. Her inners need to be probed with a stick of man.

She's old enough to be your mother, sonny. With a lot of room to spare.

[Wayne_Zitkus]

Absolutely. Her inners need to be probed with a stick of man.
Even better, her outards need to be probed with a prod of cattle.

:D

[Mini]

She's old enough to be your mother, sonny. With a lot of room to spare.

Maybe that's part of the appeal. Who knows? :p

[Seth Warren]

Even better, her outards need to be probed with a prod of cattle.

:D

If she's caught speeding and argues with the police around where I live, you might get something akin to your wish. The police here have been accused of being, shall we say, "overzealous" with their tazers.

[LillyBBBW]

So what happened? :confused:

[EbonySSBBW]

So what happened? :confused:

The show comes on tonight so I'm sure they will be talking about it later or tomorrow. :)

[ScreamingChicken]

Well that was a flop. Coulter runs her flap and looks like an obnoxious shrew while Carlin gracefully steps aside lets her do it.

[Jack Skellington]

Jeanneane Garafolo would have been a better choice. ;)

Yep, nothing like two mindless harpies going at it.

[Ned Sonntag]

She's not exactly transgendered but she may be a hermaphrodite of some sort. She can't be having periods with that little body fat; which is good because her Opus Dei handlers wouldn't permit her to use birth control with those 'conservative men' she travels with. Carlin just did his routine:confused: from the February HBO Special... he did seem to be making a farting:D noise after Coulter's interview was cutting to commercial... I wonder what'll become of our community once Net Neutrality gets neutered:( ... and is Size Acceptance a threat:shocked: to the New World Order?

[Jack Skellington]

I never noticed that before, probably because I never really gave her that much thought, but it does seem to look like she is sporting an adams apple in some pictures. No doubt just a trick of the light shining off the vertebrae on her very gaunt neck.

And Transgender people have to deal with enough crap without Ann Coulter being lumped in with them.

[TheSadeianLinguist]

Oddly enough, Annie admits to having suffered from an eating disorder. My theory is she's got a bit of brain damage, and I'm not saying that to attack her. I'm not saying she's mentally challenged, but she is not in control of her emotions. Hey, starving yourself makes your body eat your brain. It's a fact, kids. Emotions are part of your brain.

[Anguisette]

She has a waxy, skeletal appearance that's just ... err ... creepy.

[TheSadeianLinguist]

You're just jealous because you don't look like a bunch of chicken bones covered in candle wax!

[Alicia Rose]

And Transgender people have to deal with enough crap without Ann Coulter being lumped in with them.

Yeah, seriously. x.x

=Divals

[TraciJo67]

She's not exactly transgendered but she may be a hermaphrodite of some sort. She can't be having periods with that little body fat; which is good because her Opus Dei handlers wouldn't permit her to use birth control with those 'conservative men' she travels with. Carlin just did his routine:confused: from the February HBO Special... he did seem to be making a farting:D noise after Coulter's interview was cutting to commercial... I wonder what'll become of our community once Net Neutrality gets neutered:( ... and is Size Acceptance a threat:shocked: to the New World Order?

Considering that she's nearing 50, I'm guessing that menstrual cycles are a thing of the past for her anyway.

[HappyFatChick]

She not only looked great (for a skinny chick), but she was excellent in her interview. The audience seemed a little smarter than usual too. They had all
been warned about outbursts. The only one who kind of disobeyed was Grandpa Carlin who gave the gag sign and rolled his eyes when Coulter spoke.

I found Carlin kind of boring and it seemed the audience did too. Coulter was enchanting and captivating as usual.

[TheSadeianLinguist]

A gag sign and eye-rolling is hardly an outburst. Although I missed the interview, if I want to hear a girl scream and rave because she wants attention, I have a six month old niece.

[ScreamingChicken]

A gag sign and eye-rolling is hardly an outburst. Although I missed the interview, if I want to hear a girl scream and rave because she wants attention, I have a six month old niece.
Yeah, but the niece doesn't know any better. What's Coulter's excuse?

[Mini]

Yeah, but the niece doesn't know any better. What's Coulter's excuse?

Vaginally unfresh?

[Wagimawr]

Vaginally unfresh?
Aw hellz no. :D

[1300 Class]

She aquitted herself well I thought, and came across as hardly the hateful bitch she sometimes seems to be.

In the end good entertainment.

[Jack Skellington]

Vaginally unfresh?

I have to admit, sometimes I do feel less than fresh.

[Mini]

I have to admit, sometimes I do feel less than fresh.

That's because it's your anus, silly. It's supposed to smell like that.

[HappyFatChick]

I love that her book is number one all over the place. But what perplexes me is that she says liberals are Godless and they don't seem to care. No reaction.
But say that the Jersey girls are attacking the president/hiding untouchably behind their "grief", and all hell breaks loose.

[TheSadeianLinguist]

I have no sacred cows, but that doesn't mean I'm godless/godessless. And yeah, liberals do get offended over that. But nonetheless, I know atheist conservatives and uber spiritual liberals. Not everyone is a Christian. In fact, one of the best Christians I know is a registered Democrat. Y'know, best meaning she follows the teachings of Christ and doesn't judge or hate people because it's an essential part of her religion. It's got nada to do with her political affiliation, but I think we all could take pointers from her, you and me included.

[Jes]

I love that her book is number one all over the place. But what perplexes me is that she says liberals are Godless and they don't seem to care. No reaction.
But say that the Jersey girls are attacking the president/hiding untouchably behind their "grief", and all hell breaks loose.
No, that's what SHE says. I mean, you can also say it, but that's HER schtick. At least be a bit more creative in your kookiness, HFC!
BTW: I finally learned this neat new trick last night. You want I should teach you?

[LillyBBBW]

I love that her book is number one all over the place. But what perplexes me is that she says liberals are Godless and they don't seem to care. No reaction.
But say that the Jersey girls are attacking the president/hiding untouchably behind their "grief", and all hell breaks loose.

That's because when it comes to credibility Coulter is about as influential as Daisy Fuentes in what she says about dang near anything. Who's Daisy Fuentes? Exactly.

But the comments about the Jersey widows is just too big an elephant to let sit in the birdbath without pointing in wonder. It merely shows that there are no lengths to where a neo conservative like Coulter will go to personally attack anyone who dares voice an alternative point of view. Coulter's sour grapes about conservatives not being able to force the customary gang rape on 9/11 widows is proof of the mindlessness of the conservative cause. Not a word about why the widows are wrong or to point out flaws in reasoning which would be totally acceptable under the circumstances. But they're not interested in that, they just want to hurl 'Yo Mamma' retorts and nasty personal attacks that veer ridiculously askew of the subject.

For someone with such a fine tuned aversion to gratuitous personal attacks it surprises me that the big ones slip right past you.

[HappyFatChick]

Did anyone here read the book? Nah, I didn't think so. If you did, you would
realize the text of the quote. It doesn't matter anymore. The book is number one and will probably stay there for awhile.

[Jack Skellington]

The book is number one and will probably stay there for awhile.

That really doesn't mean a lot.

Al Franken's book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" spent 12 weeks on the NY Times best seller's list.

Fahrenheit 911 debuted at number 1 at the box office and grossed over $200 mil world wide.

Britney Spears sells millions of albums.

Coulter's book selling means nothing to me. People buy a lot of crap.(Just look at the examples I listed.) But that doesn't make them good.

[LillyBBBW]

Did anyone here read the book? Nah, I didn't think so. If you did, you would realize the text of the quote. It doesn't matter anymore. The book is number one and will probably stay there for awhile.

Certainly. I'm going to buy one myself actually. I'm not going to read it, it's a collector's item/conversation piece. I have Dan Quayle's book "Standing Firm" too which I finally did look through and found it to be pretty good.

[Miss Vickie]

People buy a lot of crap.(Just look at the examples I listed.) But that doesn't make them good.

No kidding. I mean, people eat Cool Whip. Need I say more? ;)

[ScreamingChicken]

No kidding. I mean, people eat Cool Whip. Need I say more? ;)
But at least it comes sugar free now.:D

[MisticalMisty]

But at least it comes sugar free now.:D
and it's DAMN YUMMY

[Alicia Rose]

Al Franken's book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" spent 12 weeks on the NY Times best seller's list.

Fahrenheit 911 debuted at number 1 at the box office and grossed over $200 mil world wide.


Both the book and the movie you listed are very good... o.o;

=Divals

[Anguisette]

The problem was never that Coulter criticized two women with whom she had issues. The problem was never that the two women in question were liberals. The problem is NEVER what Ann claims it is.

She is, like all stupid people, incapable of making a clear argument and backing it up. She had issues with two women who happened to be 9/11 widows. Are all 9/11 widows good people? That's statistically unlikely. But if Ann had a problem with one or two of them doing something immoral or illegal she should have done what a thinking human being does. She should have clearly stated it.

Ann didn't. She made a blanket statement about 9/11 widows that provided the media with the PERFECT sound bite.

Which is why she did it. It's also why the publisher left it in.

Something, as a writer, I would like to point out: a lot of "best sellers" don't sell very well. Best sellers are based on how many books are ordered and shipped to book sellers. Many times a "best seller" gets shipped back after horrible reviews and failure to sell through.

Happens very, very frequently with political books or big name celebrity books. That's why you often see a book you could SWEAR you remember on the NY Times Best Sellers List only a year ago sitting on the shelf at the Dollar Store. It made the list but didn't sell, got sent back, and sold in crates at those discount and off-release auctions.

[FreeThinker]

Something, as a writer, I would like to point out: a lot of "best sellers" don't sell very well. Best sellers are based on how many books are ordered and shipped to book sellers. Many times a "best seller" gets shipped back after horrible reviews and failure to sell through.

Happens very, very frequently with political books or big name celebrity books. That's why you often see a book you could SWEAR you remember on the NY Times Best Sellers List only a year ago sitting on the shelf at the Dollar Store. It made the list but didn't sell, got sent back, and sold in crates at those discount and off-release auctions.I don't remember the name of the author involved, but he (I believe it was a male) was talking about doing a book-signing at a bookshop. He said anytime nobody was looking, he'd grab copiess from the pile next to him and sign them. Apparently the publisher considers signed books to be 'mutilated', and will not accept their return. I don't know if the guy was joking.

As another person I can't recall said:

"If it's not true, it should be."






"Always verify your quotaions." -- Martin Joseph Routh :D

[Jack Skellington]

Both the book and the movie you listed are very good... o.o;

=Divals

I disagree. Same kind of deceitful self serving twisting of truth that Coulter does. Crap is crap no matter what side of the political fence it's coming from.

[MoonGoddess]

I disagree. Same kind of deceitful self serving twisting of truth that Coulter does. Crap is crap no matter what side of the political fence it's coming from.


And she certainly knows how to dish it out, doesn't she? A veritable queen of crap.

[Alicia Rose]

I disagree. Same kind of deceitful self serving twisting of truth that Coulter does. Crap is crap no matter what side of the political fence it's coming from.

Well, you're free to disagree, but having read the book and watched the movie and done some research on my own, I find it rather insulting that you're calling them 'crap'... -.-

=Divals

[Miss Vickie]

I'd be interested in knowing, Jack, what you thought were lies in Fahrenheit 911 and Lies, particularly Al Franken's book, which is sourced. Self serving, I'll admit to. But untrue? I'm not sure I know what you mean, and I'd appreciate some examples.

[Jes]

I'd be interested in knowing, Jack, what you thought were lies in Fahrenheit 911 and Lies, particularly Al Franken's book, which is sourced. Self serving, I'll admit to. But untrue? I'm not sure I know what you mean, and I'd appreciate some examples.
The part where Franken says we slept together?

Well, ok that happened, but it was on a Friday night, not a Sunday night.

Lord, I hope al-Qaeda gasses ME. I am just NOT feelin' it today. Let's all take a nap and wake up tomorrow.

[LillyBBBW]

The part where Franken says we slept together?

Well, ok that happened, but it was on a Friday night, not a Sunday night.

Lord, I hope al-Qaeda gasses ME. I am just NOT feelin' it today. Let's all take a nap and wake up tomorrow.

Don't let Oprah find out, she'll smack him silly. :p

Yeah, this day really does blow. I'm feeling a little pro nuclear myself.

[Tina]

I disagree. Same kind of deceitful self serving twisting of truth that Coulter does. Crap is crap no matter what side of the political fence it's coming from.

Some things you can't argue with, though. When Moore was nailing those congressmen about whether they would send their kids to war and they were hemming and hawwwing -- Moore didn't make that up. Yes, one can edit artfully, but some of it truly rang home for me.

When I saw Farenheit in the theatre I had been corresponding with a friend who was in Iraq. She was in several battles in Kirkut and Fallujah -- the big ones -- and had also told me about what was going on there and how KBR (a subsidiary of Halliburton) was treating them (like utter shit). She was a conservative -- with the emphasis on "was" -- until going to Iraq. Anyway, seeing Moore's inclusion of KBR's commercial about how they are taking such good care of the troops made me laugh ruefully.

The night before I saw the film, she had emailed and told me of how they were in a firefight and they needed help. A unit that was actually on their way home stopped by and helped them. When they were done and they went back to base, they all roused the KBR guys to have them fire up the computer cafe so the guys could email and call home to let their families know they were okay. After all, they should have been home by then and the fact that they weren't, they knew, would have them thinking the worst. The KBR guys gave them all kinds of shit and talked to them terribly. These guys, all they cared about was watching football. They took the showers that had warm water and left the cold water showers for the troops. They took possession of one of Sadaam's buildings and took the best rooms for themselves and put the troops in moldy rooms that started making them sick. There is so much more I could tell you.

Did any of you read about this in the news or see it on TV? No? Hmmm... guess it must not have happened then, eh? Michael Moore's work is always slanted, but it's not based upon fairy tales for one thing, he has some real stuff in there. Secondly, he, unlike Coulter, questions the powers that be for the good of people who are dying over there, as well as for his own political agenda. Coulter only has a political agenda and couldn't care less about who dies.

You cannot factually equate the Moore and Coulter; they are not the same.

[Jane]

Anyway, seeing Moore's inclusion of KBR's commercial about how they are taking such good care of the troops made me laugh ruefully.


KBR...or Brown and Root as they were known then....the company that brought you the Vietnam War.

[Alicia Rose]

Another thing I forgot to include: Michael Moore put forth an open challenge and promised $10,000 to anyone who could find a lie in Fahrenheit 9/11.

As far as I know, nobody's found one yet. :D

=Divals

[Jack Skellington]

I find it rather insulting that you're calling them 'crap'... -.-


I insult a lot of stuff. Deal with it. ;)

No one got pissy when I insulted Coulter. But don't mess with Micheal Moore. Eh, I will insult whomever I please, left or right. I'm just cool that way. :D

[exile in thighville]

Oddly enough, Annie admits to having suffered from an eating disorder. My theory is she's got a bit of brain damage, and I'm not saying that to attack her. I'm not saying she's mentally challenged, but she is not in control of her emotions. Hey, starving yourself makes your body eat your brain. It's a fact, kids. Emotions are part of your brain.


ann coulter has emotions? they must be stored in that freaklump in her neck

[exile in thighville]

I love that her book is number one all over the place. But what perplexes me is that she says liberals are Godless and they don't seem to care. No reaction.
But say that the Jersey girls are attacking the president/hiding untouchably behind their "grief", and all hell breaks loose.

jersey girls or 9/11 widows? being godless isn't an insult. it's a source of pride for several but hardly all liberals who heartily believe in, yknow, the seperation of church and state. especially when there's plenty of godful liberals who are jewish or muslim. but they don't really count, do they?

[exile in thighville]

Did anyone here read the book? Nah, I didn't think so. If you did, you would
realize the text of the quote. It doesn't matter anymore. The book is number one and will probably stay there for awhile.

i read the book. now who's making assumptions?

[TheSadeianLinguist]

I'm a member of Strap-On Veterans for the Truth, Dan. Who is SOVeT, you ask? We are organization dedicating to exposing the truth about the former drag queen now known as Ann Coulter.

We are a coalition of former friends and co-workers of Ann Coulter who are upset by her vicious anti-gay, anti-Muslim, anti-feminist rhetoric and feel the truth should be told. Our organization, Strap-On Veterans For Truth, is dedicated to exposing the true past of America’s number one hatemonger.

Ann Coulter is actually a former drag queen from Key West named Pudenda Shenanigans. Ms. Shenanigans was famous for her renditions of “Dude Looks Like a Lady” “I Will Survive” and “You Shook Me All Night Long” as well as an extensive Barbra Streisand repertoire. We who used to work with her are concerned for her as well as upset by the vile hatred she has spewed towards her former friends in the gay community. We feel that by bringing the truth to light perhaps Ann will come to grips with her past and change her wicked ways.

As Pudenda Shenanigans, she was well known on the drag circuit in Key West. Whether she actually had a full sex change or not is a matter of debate, although her adam’s apple is still visible in photos, under the appropriate light. We who laughed, cried, worked and danced with her feel her story should be told. We are not out to punish her, but feel it’s time she owned up to what she really is.

The person known today as Ann Coulter was born Jeremy Levinsohn in the village in New York in 1960. His parents were typical latte-drinking liberals, religiously conservative, but socially and politically radical. His father taught Russian Literature at CUNY and his mother was a social worker. His childhood friend Rodger Mihalot described him, “The Levinsohns were nice people, but his father was distant, so Jeremy seemed to seek a strong male figure in his life. Although they were Jewish, he often hung out at our church, and really seemed to spend a lot of time with Fr. Donatella Nowunn. I also think he was really looking to rebel against his overly liberal parents. Otherwise he was a typical kid, he liked to play cowboy, sailor and gladiator a lot. His favorite movie was always The Sheik, he really seemed to have a fascination with Arabs, I don’t know why.”

In the 70’s Jeremy went to Brandeis, where he majored in Sociology, with a minor in comparative religions. His lifelong fascination with Muslims really seemed to take root at Brandeis. But college roommate Ima Gaiboyye described an unhappy man, “He was never really interested in women, but did go see the theater company’s production of “The Wizard of Oz” 10 times, I thought he liked the girl who played the lead, he really talked about her outfit a lot. After college Jeremy just dropped off the face of the earth, we never heard from him again.”

Jeremy drifted for awhile before finding himself in Key West. Co-worker Licky Dickenstein described these early years, “Jeremy was a natural, I never saw anyone take to drag so quickly. Once he found his persona, he WAS Pudenda Shenanigans. For most of us drag was a part time thing, but Pudenda was 24-7, always in character, always in costume. She really shook things up, she was a goddess on stage.”

By 1985 Ms Shenanigans was dating a Lebanese businessman, Ustahav Toubohls and the two were believed to be deliriously happy. Friends report Pudenda always had a fetish for Muslims and was considering a marriage proposal. But then she opened up the New York Times one day and saw a picture of Mr. Toubohls with a famous actress in New York. Former friend Gaivit Tuhym described the result, “Pudenda was devastated, she couldn’t stand seeing her Toubohls with another woman. She cried and cried, ‘I miss my Toubohls, I want my Toubohls back!’ I don’t think she ever forgave him, the New York Times, or Muslims in general.”

After that Ms. Shenanigans disappeared for years, only resurfacing in the 90’s as Ann Coulter. Her hatred for Muslims, gays and feminists is odd for her former coworkers. Long Dick Gone, a former co-worker stated, “At first I thought there was something funny about this Ann Coulter. I mean here’s a woman who claims to hate feminists, but is in her 40’s, single, no kids, is very opinionated and outspoken and concentrates on her career. Ann Coulter is the biggest example of a feminist I ever saw. Then I noticed that in just the right light you could see that adam’s apple and that’s when I recognized our little Pudenda Shenanigans, the hottest drag queen this side of Fire Island.”



Strap-On Veterans For Truth

Once they realized who Ann Coulter was, Strap-On Veterans For Truth was formed.

Ann’s former friends and co-workers realized that her intense hatred of gays, feminists and Muslims was really self-loathing and continuing hurt from the loss of her beloved Toubohls. Although we know she’s been through a lot, we feel hurt by her turning against everything she used to hold dear. We love you Ann, or Pudenda, or Jeremy. We respect whatever lifestyle of gender you choose. We just want you to be true to yourself and please stop the hatred. Come back to us and share the love of your friends and community again.

Strap-On Veterans for Truth is a proud partner of The Hoolinet.
(My apologies to drag queens everywhere.)

[Jack Skellington]

Nevermind that Coulter could easy afford a tracheal shave if she needed one.


And Transgender people have to deal with enough crap without Ann Coulter being lumped in with them.

That's all I have to say.

[HappyFatChick]

People can't intelligently debate what Coulter says so now they attack her neck? WTF??? Isn't attacking someone's looks just kind of wrong for this site?

[Tina]

No, HFC, that's not it. I mean, one only "intelligently debate[s]" a subject or person that is worthy of intelligent debate in the first place. Intelligently debating Coulter's excremental chicken scratchings would be like intelligently debating vomit. I mean... why -- for what purpose?

[Jes]

Nevermind that Coulter could easy afford a tracheal shave if she needed one.



That's all I have to say.
jack, you know a lot about becoming a woman. That's all *I* have to say.

[Jes]

People can't intelligently debate what Coulter says so now they attack her neck? WTF??? Isn't attacking someone's looks just kind of wrong for this site?
I agree, and I've stayed out of it. I watched her on tv. My eyes got all muppety in my head. And, you konw, I think she doesn't believe a significant portion of what she says. Outrageousness sells books and gets authors on talk shows. She knows this. It's her message I find offensive, not her looks.

[Jack Skellington]

jack, you know a lot about becoming a woman. That's all *I* have to say.

I just saw Transamerica. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :p

I agree, and I've stayed out of it. I watched her on tv. My eyes got all muppety in my head. And, you konw, I think she doesn't believe a significant portion of what she says. Outrageousness sells books and gets authors on talk shows. She knows this. It's her message I find offensive, not her looks.

Exactly.

No matter how intensely I might dislike the crap that flies out of the mouths of people like Rush, Franken, Coulter, Moore, O'Reilly, etc. on a regular basis, I never stoop to personally insulting their appearances. That's just a cheap shot to use when you can't make your point any other way.

Coulter gives people enough ammo to criticize what she says without having to take the cheap route of making fun of her appearance.

[Tina]

That's just a cheap shot to use when you can't make your point any other way.

Nope. That's what I say when I see a picture of her, because she truly creeps me out and looks like death to me. Has nothing to do with her writing, but everything to do with how the outside can sometimes mirror the inside, IMO.

[Jack Skellington]

but everything to do with how the outside can sometimes mirror the inside, IMO.

I think that's a bit hypocritical. That's like judging what Rush and Moore say by them being heavy.

[Tina]

You're not getting my point, Jack. I judge her words by her words, but find her looks go with my perception of who she seems to be on the inside based upon her words.

[Jack Skellington]

You're not getting my point, Jack. I judge her words by her words, but find her looks go with my perception of who she seems to be on the inside based upon her words.

Tina, I like you and respect you. But I have to disagree with you on this.

That sort of thing, especially on a site that is supposed to be about size acceptance and not judging people by their appearance, screams of hypocrisy to me.

Like I said, Coulter gives people way enough ammo to criticize what she says without taking the cheap route of making fun of how a person looks.

For example

I dislike Moore and Rush because they are smarmy and full of themselves. But I don't say stuff like the ugly things they say are because they are ugly or fat or whatever on the outside.

Besides, there are just as many physically "unattractive" people (and by whose standards?) that are beautiful people on the inside to make that argument worthless anyway.

[TheSadeianLinguist]

I normally don't go around insulting people on their appearance, Jack, but here's my point: If the nuts of one side are going to call me an extremist, I'll show 'em extremist. Plus, I agree with a notion BB once said. To paraphrase, rational discussion does no good when dealing with dictators, terrorists, and people who've fallen for this crap.

It's good and healthy to laugh, and for me, it's a pleasant relief and a route I sometimes prefer to take when talking with people who have no interest in really discussing the issues.

[exile in thighville]

I'm a member of Strap-On Veterans for the Truth, Dan. Who is SOVeT, you ask? We are organization dedicating to exposing the truth about the former drag queen now known as Ann Coulter.

We are a coalition of former friends and co-workers of Ann Coulter who are upset by her vicious anti-gay, anti-Muslim, anti-feminist rhetoric and feel the truth should be told. Our organization, Strap-On Veterans For Truth, is dedicated to exposing the true past of America’s number one hatemonger.

Ann Coulter is actually a former drag queen from Key West named Pudenda Shenanigans. Ms. Shenanigans was famous for her renditions of “Dude Looks Like a Lady” “I Will Survive” and “You Shook Me All Night Long” as well as an extensive Barbra Streisand repertoire. We who used to work with her are concerned for her as well as upset by the vile hatred she has spewed towards her former friends in the gay community. We feel that by bringing the truth to light perhaps Ann will come to grips with her past and change her wicked ways.

As Pudenda Shenanigans, she was well known on the drag circuit in Key West. Whether she actually had a full sex change or not is a matter of debate, although her adam’s apple is still visible in photos, under the appropriate light. We who laughed, cried, worked and danced with her feel her story should be told. We are not out to punish her, but feel it’s time she owned up to what she really is.

The person known today as Ann Coulter was born Jeremy Levinsohn in the village in New York in 1960. His parents were typical latte-drinking liberals, religiously conservative, but socially and politically radical. His father taught Russian Literature at CUNY and his mother was a social worker. His childhood friend Rodger Mihalot described him, “The Levinsohns were nice people, but his father was distant, so Jeremy seemed to seek a strong male figure in his life. Although they were Jewish, he often hung out at our church, and really seemed to spend a lot of time with Fr. Donatella Nowunn. I also think he was really looking to rebel against his overly liberal parents. Otherwise he was a typical kid, he liked to play cowboy, sailor and gladiator a lot. His favorite movie was always The Sheik, he really seemed to have a fascination with Arabs, I don’t know why.”

In the 70’s Jeremy went to Brandeis, where he majored in Sociology, with a minor in comparative religions. His lifelong fascination with Muslims really seemed to take root at Brandeis. But college roommate Ima Gaiboyye described an unhappy man, “He was never really interested in women, but did go see the theater company’s production of “The Wizard of Oz” 10 times, I thought he liked the girl who played the lead, he really talked about her outfit a lot. After college Jeremy just dropped off the face of the earth, we never heard from him again.”

Jeremy drifted for awhile before finding himself in Key West. Co-worker Licky Dickenstein described these early years, “Jeremy was a natural, I never saw anyone take to drag so quickly. Once he found his persona, he WAS Pudenda Shenanigans. For most of us drag was a part time thing, but Pudenda was 24-7, always in character, always in costume. She really shook things up, she was a goddess on stage.”

By 1985 Ms Shenanigans was dating a Lebanese businessman, Ustahav Toubohls and the two were believed to be deliriously happy. Friends report Pudenda always had a fetish for Muslims and was considering a marriage proposal. But then she opened up the New York Times one day and saw a picture of Mr. Toubohls with a famous actress in New York. Former friend Gaivit Tuhym described the result, “Pudenda was devastated, she couldn’t stand seeing her Toubohls with another woman. She cried and cried, ‘I miss my Toubohls, I want my Toubohls back!’ I don’t think she ever forgave him, the New York Times, or Muslims in general.”

After that Ms. Shenanigans disappeared for years, only resurfacing in the 90’s as Ann Coulter. Her hatred for Muslims, gays and feminists is odd for her former coworkers. Long Dick Gone, a former co-worker stated, “At first I thought there was something funny about this Ann Coulter. I mean here’s a woman who claims to hate feminists, but is in her 40’s, single, no kids, is very opinionated and outspoken and concentrates on her career. Ann Coulter is the biggest example of a feminist I ever saw. Then I noticed that in just the right light you could see that adam’s apple and that’s when I recognized our little Pudenda Shenanigans, the hottest drag queen this side of Fire Island.”



Strap-On Veterans For Truth

Once they realized who Ann Coulter was, Strap-On Veterans For Truth was formed.

Ann’s former friends and co-workers realized that her intense hatred of gays, feminists and Muslims was really self-loathing and continuing hurt from the loss of her beloved Toubohls. Although we know she’s been through a lot, we feel hurt by her turning against everything she used to hold dear. We love you Ann, or Pudenda, or Jeremy. We respect whatever lifestyle of gender you choose. We just want you to be true to yourself and please stop the hatred. Come back to us and share the love of your friends and community again.

Strap-On Veterans for Truth is a proud partner of The Hoolinet.
(My apologies to drag queens everywhere.)

you had me at pudenda shenanigans.

[exile in thighville]

People can't intelligently debate what Coulter says so now they attack her neck? WTF??? Isn't attacking someone's looks just kind of wrong for this site?

if i have to put up with your depressing naivete that unfortunately reflects a disturbing portion of our nation i'm going to have fun doing it. would you be more at ease if i simply called coulter's adam's apple a greedy, opportunistic ol' harpie?

[exile in thighville]

I normally don't go around insulting people on their appearance, Jack, but here's my point: If the nuts of one side are going to call me an extremist, I'll show 'em extremist. Plus, I agree with a notion BB once said. To paraphrase, rational discussion does no good when dealing with dictators, terrorists, and people who've fallen for this crap.

It's good and healthy to laugh, and for me, it's a pleasant relief and a route I sometimes prefer to take when talking with people who have no interest in really discussing the issues.

agreed on all counts. and if you're an extremist sadeian, i'm albert qaeda.

[Jack Skellington]

It's good and healthy to laugh, and for me, it's a pleasant relief and a route I sometimes prefer to take when talking with people who have no interest in really discussing the issues.

That's good to hear. Then I'm sure you won't mind that I am going to insult Bush by saying he is bisexual. :p

Yes, I'm teasing. But you see where I am going with this.

[TheSadeianLinguist]

Actually, I so wouldn't be surprised if he wanted the human sausage. Why would he talk about it so much otherwise?

[Jack Skellington]

Actually, I so wouldn't be surprised if he wanted the human sausage. Why would he talk about it so much otherwise?

I guess you don't see where I am going with this.

You meant to insult Coulter by saying she was a Transexual.

Same as hypothetically insulting Bush (or other hated person of choice on the right or left) by saying he/she is bisexual. Meaning calling someone bisexual is an insult.

[TheSadeianLinguist]

I do. I was just being a pain in the ass. And BTW, just for fun from here (http://gaylife.about.com/od/gaydictionary/g/transgender.htm):

A transgender person is one who dresses as, desires to be, has undergone surgery to become or identifies as a person of the opposite sex. These individuals represent the "T" in GLBTQ and can be drag queens, transvestites or transsexuals. (Most transpeople reject the term transgender.)

Drag queens, or "queens" for short, are mostly entertainers who dance, sing, lip sync and perform in costume (often extravagantly presented female attire) at drag shows. The origin of the word "drag" is unclear; however, female illusionists can be dated back to Ancient Rome and Shakespearean theater. Today, many drag queens perform in drag shows, which became popular after the first world war.

Transvestites are men who adopt the identity of women through dress and behavior. Transvestic individuals exhibit sexual pleasure from assuming the identity of the opposite sex.

You will often hear a transvestite referred to as a "full time woman" whereas drag queens are usually identified as men who impersonate women only during drag shows. (I disagree with this definition and regard transvestites as fetishistic crossdressers.)

Transsexuals usually desire physical alteration of their bodies to bring them closer to the sex in which they identify.

I was insulting Coulter by calling her a drag queen.

I just think it's funny as all get out that someone like Coulter with her lifestyle choices has the beliefs she claims to have.

[Jack Skellington]

I just think it's funny as all get out that someone like Coulter with her lifestyle choices has the beliefs she claims to have.

I think we both can agree she is more than a bit out there to put it nicely.

[TheSadeianLinguist]

Coulter's different...

[Tina]

I think that's a bit hypocritical. That's like judging what Rush and Moore say by them being heavy.

You're simplifying it, Jack. I can see from your post that you are still not understanding me. Correlation is not necessarily causation.

As someone whose perception of a peoples' looks is very much colored by the personality they display, Coulter is ugly to me in ways that don't have everything to do with looks. I do not judge what *anyone* says by the way they look, but if they say ugly things on a regular basis they can become ugly to me. Do you know what I mean? If not, I don't know what to say from here. I'm outta 'splanations, or, as Jon would say, "I got nuthin'!"

[EbonySSBBW]

You're simplifying it, Jack. I can see from your post that you are still not understanding me. Correlation is not necessarily causation.

As someone whose perception of a peoples' looks is very much colored by the personality they display, Coulter is ugly to me in ways that don't have everything to do with looks. I do not judge what *anyone* says by the way they look, but if they say ugly things on a regular basis they can become ugly to me. Do you know what I mean? If not, I don't know what to say from here. I'm outta 'splanations, or, as Jon would say, "I got nuthin'!"

I understand what you're saying, Tina. I also agree with you. It's the same as someone becoming more attractive as you get to know them and find out what a kind heart they have. The heart of a person can definitely make them either more attractive or less appealing, in my opinion.

[Tina]

Exactly. And thank you for saying, so, Ebony.

I've experienced a very handsome man leaving me cold as I heard more of what he thought and felt, because of his attitude. Conversely, a very ordinary-looking sort of guy became very handsome to me because of who he was inside. My vision changes according to their behavior and what comes out of their mouths.

Coulter? As I said, she looks like death to me. Part of it is because she is skin and bones, yes, but that would not be enough to make me remark on it. It's who she seems to be inside -- rotten to the core -- that repulses me and just makes me see ugliness when I look at her.

Ebony, have you ever seen the 1945 film "The Enchanted Cottage (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037671/)"? After seeing that film years ago, I realized that it comes closer than anything else I've seen that could describe my feelings about people and their personalities, and how that also ties into their looks for me.

[EbonySSBBW]

Ebony, have you ever seen the 1945 film "The Enchanted Cottage (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037671/)"? After seeing that film years ago, I realized that it comes closer than anything else I've seen that could describe my feelings about people and their personalities, and how that also ties into their looks for me.

I haven't seen that movie but I read about it and it sounds like my kind of movie. I love stories like that. I think that is why Beauty and the Beast is one of my favorite Disney movies. :)

[Tina]

Heh. Ditto. :D

[Alicia Rose]

As the board's token transsexual, I can honestly say I'm not offended :p

=Divals

[HappyFatChick]

I feel the same way about Cindy Sheehan. I felt sorry for her loss of her son.

But when she said my country was not worth fighting for, not worth dying for, and that my President was Hitler,terrorist,liar, etc..., she became one of the ugliest, most vile faces I ever saw.

[Wayne_Zitkus]

I feel the same way about Cindy Sheehan. I felt sorry for her loss of her son.

But when she said my country was not worth fighting for, not worth dying for, and that my President was Hitler,terrorist,liar, etc..., she became one of the ugliest, most vile faces I ever saw.
If you feel so strongly about the war on terror, HFC, when are you going to enlist?

[Seth Warren]

If you feel so strongly about the war on terror, HFC, when are you going to enlist?

You know, I think it proves that there is no god by the simple fact that HFC and her deluded peers haven't been struck by lightening. Either that, or our father who art in heaven is an absentee parent.