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dan
06-17-2006, 05:39 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50690
Are we starting a civil war in Palestine ,or at least provoking one..????? Can we not get involved with every movement on this Earth.. Hamas is no good,but the PA isn't much better..Giving Abbas weapons to kill Hamas does us absolutely NO good on the world stage.

Miss Vickie
06-17-2006, 05:46 PM
Freedom's on the march, baybee. It's Democracy for all. Wheeeee!

(Not that I don't take with a 50 pound bag of salt, anything sourced from WND, but if it's true it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest).

1300 Class
06-17-2006, 06:05 PM
The United States has been arming people all over the world since 1945. Even unsaviory types, as long as it furthers either US Economic, military/security or national values.

I'm not surprised in the slightest.

Miss Vickie
06-17-2006, 07:39 PM
Good point, AL. We armed Saddam Hussein, for starters. It's what we do, apparently.

1300 Class
06-17-2006, 08:02 PM
The promulgation of American interests.:rolleyes:

AnnMarie
06-17-2006, 08:30 PM
You're so hot, teasing me
So you're blue but I can't take a chance on a chick like you
That's something I couldn't do
There's that look in your eyes
I can read in your face that your feelings are driving you wild
Ah, but girl you're only a child

1300 Class
06-17-2006, 09:06 PM
I'd pass comment 'bout that coming "out of the blue", but it didn't seem appriopriate. http://70.85.81.229/2933/135/emo/eusa_snooty.gif

AnnMarie
06-17-2006, 09:30 PM
I'd pass comment 'bout that coming "out of the blue", but it didn't seem appriopriate. http://70.85.81.229/2933/135/emo/eusa_snooty.gif

Eh, sorry, but it was FAR too easy for me to pass up. I'm THAT simple.

CleverBomb
06-17-2006, 09:35 PM
Eh, sorry, but it was FAR too easy for me to pass up. I'm THAT simple.
Me too.
I was trying to figure out who'd declared a fatwa against Abba, and for the love of Gawd WHY?????

-Rusty

1300 Class
06-17-2006, 09:37 PM
Awww. http://70.85.81.229/2933/135/emo/hug.gif

dan
06-17-2006, 09:57 PM
You're so hot, teasing me
So you're blue but I can't take a chance on a chick like you
That's something I couldn't do
There's that look in your eyes
I can read in your face that your feelings are driving you wild
Ah, but girl you're only a childAnn.m ,,,, Abbas was elected Prime minister of the Palestinian Authority after Yasser Arafat died.Then this year Hamas won the Government elections . we consider Hamas a terrorist organization. But years past we also considered the PA a terrorist organization..Hamas is not recognized by Israel or the US. Hamas controls the Gaza strip. Pa controls the West bank. We cannot forget that Hezbollah controls Golan up north in Lebanon.For the US to be arming Abbas reallys scares me because it could ultimately escalate into a full blown war,which we will never win because neither side likes the US or Israel.It is just plain dumb to arm any of them.

ssbbwlover2
06-17-2006, 10:17 PM
Ann.m ,,,, Abbas was elected Prime minister of the Palestinian Authority after Yasser Arafat died.Then this year Hamas won the Government elections . we consider Hamas a terrorist organization. But years past we also considered the PA a terrorist organization..Hamas is not recognized by Israel or the US. Hamas controls the Gaza strip. Pa controls the West bank. We cannot forget that Hezbollah controls Golan up north in Lebanon.For the US to be arming Abbas reallys scares me because it could ultimately escalate into a full blown war,which we will never win because neither side likes the US or Israel.It is just plain dumb to arm any of them.


Yet, it is fine to continue to arm Israel which has no plan to allow for a functional independent Palestinian state. Israel is using its military to kill innocent people in Palestine and then claiming self-defense.

Take a look at this article. It sets straight some misconceptions about Hamas promoted by the media.

http://www.counterpunch.org/loewenstein06122006.html

NYEmtEsq
06-17-2006, 10:41 PM
Yet, it is fine to continue to arm Israel which has no plan to allow for a functional independent Palestinian state. Israel is using its military to kill innocent people in Palestine and then claiming self-defense.

Take a look at this article. It sets straight some misconceptions about Hamas promoted by the media.

http://www.counterpunch.org/loewenstein06122006.html

Most Israelis do not have a problem with a functional independent Palestinian state dedicated to the interests of its people. What the Israelis have a problem with is a state on its borders whose leaders have repeatedly held themselves out to support its destriction. Up until recently, Israel (or the Zionist lobby, to quote a line from the above website) was the only democracy in the middle east. Call me cynical, but I have a hard time believing an article where the website on which it is hosted invites us to:

"Read how US presidents from Wilson, through FDR to Truman were manipulated by the Zionist lobby; how Israel bent LBJ, Reagan and Clinton to its purpose; how Bush's White House has been the West Wing of the Israeli government; how Washington's revolving doors send full-time Israel lobbyists from think-tanks to the National Security Council and the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans."

ssbbwlover2
06-17-2006, 10:52 PM
What the leaders of Israel have a problem with, is the formation of a Palestinian state. If even the most timid of Palestinian leaders like Abbas can not get Israel to negotiate, then where do the Palestinians turn?

What type of democracy is Israel that discriminates against Israeli Arab. As a recent Israeli Supreme Court ruling upheld a law that barred Palestinian spoouses of Israeli Arabs from living in Israel.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060515/news_1n15mideast.html

djewell
06-17-2006, 10:58 PM
While I personally don't believe the State of Israel has the right to call itself a Jewish state, I DO believe it has the right to defend its citizens, its INNOCENT citizens from attack by extremist Muslim groups.

ssbbwlover2
06-17-2006, 11:15 PM
What about the INNOCENT Palestinians killed? Last week on the Gaza beach children were killed by Israeli submarine shooting. There is indiscriminate killing going on enough to a point that both sides are wrong.

djewell
06-17-2006, 11:49 PM
What about the INNOCENT Palestinians killed? Last week on the Gaza beach children were killed by Israeli submarine shooting. There is indiscriminate killing going on enough to a point that both sides are wrong.

Oh I largely agree with you, its just that IMNSHO, the "Palestinians" have screwed up many of their chances to have a free and independent Palestine.