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Old 11-02-2009, 12:54 PM   #76
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Dimensions isn't about size acceptance.

It's about worship of fat bodies, and the fatter, the better.

I don't think that there's anything inherently wrong with that, but I do wish we'd just ... stop ... pretending that size acceptance issues matter here.

It would also put a stop to the angst-filled questions.

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This is an internet message board, not fat (or any other kind of) mecca.
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Dammit Traci.....I need to spread my love around before I give it to you again. But EXACTLY.
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yeah.. i canny rep her either..but she is spot on!!
I got her!
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No reason to feel insulted or overlooked. It's just a matter of preference. Small to midsize BBWs are like mopeds. And women in the 150 to 180 pounds range are like getting a stank-ass seat on a crowded bus in the ghetto.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:15 PM   #78
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No reason to feel insulted or overlooked. It's just a matter of preference. Small to midsize BBWs are like mopeds. And a woman in the 150 to 180 pounds range is like a stank-ass seat on a crowded bus in the ghetto.
Indeed. I used to weigh less than that.. i was practically a walk!
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:17 PM   #79
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Dimensions isn't about size acceptance.

It's about worship of fat bodies, and the fatter, the better.

I don't think that there's anything inherently wrong with that, but I do wish we'd just ... stop ... pretending that size acceptance issues matter here.

It would also put a stop to the angst-filled questions.

I'd love to see a disclaimer like this:

Dims is probably not a good fit for:

* People who do not want to be objectified because they are fat - or want their fat to be seen as just a part of who they are, not the sum total of what they are

* People who are unwilling/unable to tolerate poor behavior that often goes hand-in-hand with so-called "newbies" learning the ropes

* People who are unable/unwilling to tolerate extremes in others

* People who are unhappy with any aspect of their size

* People who are considering, or who have had, weight loss surgery

* People who feel that any aspect of humiliation based on size is degrading

People who can be flexible and tolerant of all different types of behaviors, forms of expression, and methods of communication -- some of them extreme -- will probably find a happy middle ground and a useful niche at Dims.

I don't mean that as an insult, for those who are asking the usual "why is it OK to objectify" questions here. FWIW, I have the same questions. I am just starting to wonder if my time would be better served seeking answers elsewhere**, or at least, not feeling the constant need to ask certain questions.

**Disclaimer: Not an angst-filled "Goodbye Cruel Dims" post. Just a statement of fact: I'm not sure that I can be enthusiastic and happy -- or even just quiet, about certain issues. It's not who or what I'm about. The internal conflicts that it creates, for me, are just not worth it. This is an internet message board, not fat (or any other kind of) mecca.

I don't agree with that. Not that fat admiration doesn't take precedence, but it isn't the only thing emphasized. I'm well aware that some of the users don't necessarily believe in Size Acceptance as much as the former, and there are better places to go for strictly the latter, but this site isn't just about the former. The former is just more important to most, with the other things being auxiliary.

But I do understand how you feel. There are many posts that I won't comment about.
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What got me was when BBW's on a size acceptance size got told that they aren't as beautiful or desirable as their fatter sisters - and try to explain it as much as you want to, that's what he said. .
Don't put words in his mouth. What he said was that thinner Dims women look less like cars than fatter Dims women do.



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Old 11-02-2009, 01:33 PM   #82
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Sometimes I wonder why certain people still stick around if they feel unwelcome or can't stand most aspects of this site. Don't get me wrong, his comment was ill worded at best, it's not like I don't agree with you, but still.. it's like, if Dims isn't your cup of tea.. why are you wasting your time and everyone elses time (since we have to wade through your hundreds of posts of bitching) on this site?
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:33 PM   #83
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Exactly! At Dims, it is just a matter of preference! Every man has his.

For example, the smaller BBWs are burros.

Burros are not as rare as Ferraris--or as cool, let's face it--but they get the job done, knowwhatimean knowhatimean.

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if Dims isn't your cup of tea.. why are you wasting your time and everyone elses time (since we have to wade through your hundreds of posts of bitching) on this site?
This is pretty fucking cold, and maybe you don't get it, but most people spend a lot of time looking for places to belong and Dims is as close as it gets. Instead of bitching that women should just leave, why not try to remedy the problem on some level?
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This is pretty fucking cold, and maybe you don't get it, but most people spend a lot of time looking for places to belong and Dims is as close as it gets. Instead of bitching that women should just leave, why not try to remedy the problem on some level?
I was specifically talking about a handful of members who mostly argue with other people and post about how much they don't like it here and how much this isn't a place they want to associate with. I think most everyone knows who I'm referring to. If telling them to leave is me being cold, so be it.

Honestly, you post the most inflammatory shit and then turn around and act like I'm such a cunt. I don't get it. If you have a problem, PM and we'll talk. If not, then please don't follow me around the forum giving me shit for everything I post. Thanks.
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Sometimes I wonder why certain people still stick around if they feel unwelcome or can't stand most aspects of this site. Don't get me wrong, his comment was ill worded at best, it's not like I don't agree with you, but still.. it's like, if Dims isn't your cup of tea.. why are you wasting your time and everyone elses time (since we have to wade through your hundreds of posts of bitching) on this site?
Good.
Also, there are a lot of people who feel the same. Like Tooz says, for many this is the only place some people have got, for the time being. You can't blame people for trying to change something they disagree with or don't like. When there are a LOT of people who disagree about the same thing, perhaps changes might even occur. Change doesn't happen if you don't speak out. I can't understand why anyone would have a problem with this, unless the change was going to affect them personally in some way.
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I was specifically talking about a handful of members who mostly argue with other people and post about how much they don't like it here and how much this isn't a place they want to associate with. I think most everyone knows who I'm referring to. If telling them to leave is me being cold, so be it.

Honestly, you post the most inflammatory shit and then turn around and act like I'm such a cunt. I don't get it. If you have a problem, PM and we'll talk. If not, then please don't follow me around the forum giving me shit for everything I post. Thanks.
Baby girl, I'm simply returning your bluntness. I believe we have had this discussion before. You can not deny what you said was not really quite mean. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. And don't flatter yourself, I don't follow ANYONE around on Dims to "give them shit." That would take entirely too much time and yield little in entertainment. Relax.

Anyway, somehow I missed Traci's post and I don't know how. I agree, though. I think the size acceptance slant on this site is cultivated more by the women who come here (overall-- there are, of course, exceptions). In the end, Dims is an admiration site which has had some mild skewing in the direction of SA.

I, personally, would like to see MORE SA, but it ight just be a pipe dream...
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Good.
Also, there are a lot of people who feel the same. Like Tooz says, for many this is the only place some people have got, for the time being. You can't blame people for trying to change something they disagree with or don't like. When there are a LOT of people who disagree about the same thing, perhaps changes might even occur. Change doesn't happen if you don't speak out. I can't understand why anyone would have a problem with this, unless the change was going to affect them personally in some way.
I understand that. Of course there are some aspects of this site I personally don't like as well. I'm talking about a small handful of people whos entire Dims identity is based on making fun of other members, accusing people of anti-women behavior, hating feederism and complaining about practically every aspect of this site. I truly wonder why they waste their own time here if its THAT bad.
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Baby girl, I'm simply returning your bluntness. I believe we have had this discussion before. You can not deny what you said was not really quite mean. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. And don't flatter yourself, I don't follow ANYONE around on Dims to "give them shit." That would take entirely too much time and yield little in entertainment. Relax.
I still don't think it was mean. Maybe some people are just too sensitive.

ETA: baby girl? condescending blah blah
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Point of clarification:

Urban dictionary defines "baby girl" as...

1. a close friend that is a girl
2. a girlfriend

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ok.

Once again we seem to be going round and round in circles.

Since I don't want things to get any more snide or unpleasant, I'm going to close this thread for the time being with a note to remind you all that this part of dimensions is the FA forum. This doesn't mean that there is no right to reply from non-FAs but there is also a right for FAs to express preference for the body characteristics that they are attracted to. Whether a metaphor to do so is poorly chosen or not is not the sole issue 'here'... in 'this' particular space at least.

I can see how it would have been more considerate to express preference in a way that didn't imply devaluation of other body types. I can also see how it is important for posters in this forum have a right to express preference... and to do so comfortably...

Since the deeper question here regards the relationship between fat admiration and size acceptance, I'd like to direct you all to a thread to discuss this dynamic. Input from all parties will be welcome in this thread but I ask that it is expressed civilly and constructively.
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