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Old 09-14-2009, 12:46 PM   #51
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@Katorade.. Sorry hard to be clear on phone (thumb cramps).. I meant fear & hatred prevents most intersex people from living openly as such in society.. That would have to change before they could have their own divisions in sports.. Which to be clear - I meant separately from both men and women.. I don't know even if in an open and accepting society there'd be enough intersex folks to form such a division though.. To be honest I think the way intersex folks are erased from social existence is a WAY bigger deal than whether and how they get to compete in sport... But that could be cos I don't care much for sport..
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:57 PM   #52
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Well the word is out and still nobody's talking. She gets to keep her medals though.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/20/sports/20runner.html
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Old 11-19-2009, 06:07 PM   #53
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Well the word is out and still nobody's talking. She gets to keep her medals though.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/20/sports/20runner.html
i totally forgotten about her. so what will she be allowed to compete as?
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Old 11-19-2009, 06:21 PM   #54
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Interesting. It sounds like she can run as a woman, although the article is certainly making it out to sound like she's intersexed; then again, the media is likely to do that, because it's more interesting than "no, she really was a biological female after all". I'm glad her privacy is being a little more respected, though.
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I can't register with NY times on my phone! Would someone cut and paste the article please?
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Here you go! I, too am glad that her privacy is being respected now.

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Track Officials and Runner Reach Agreement in Gender Inquiry

By JERÉ LONGMAN
Published: November 19, 2009

One of the most public and controversial cases of sex verification in sports has apparently been resolved, at least in part, but the answers to some important questions have not been made public.
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A woman protested outside the International Olympic Committee’s headquarters in Switzerland on Thursday.

South Africa’s sports ministry said in a statement Thursday that Caster Semenya, 18, the world champion 800-meter runner, had reached an agreement with track and field’s world governing body to keep the gold medal and prize money she won at the world championships in August.

Most notably, however, the sports ministry did not say whether Semenya would be allowed to continue to compete as a woman. The statement also did not disclose the results of sex-verification tests she had undergone.

“As such, there will be no public announcement of what the panel of scientists has found,” the sports ministry said. “We urge all South Africans and other people to respect this professional, ethical and moral way of doing things.”

Semenya, who attends the University of Pretoria, could not be reached for comment. Her coach, Michael Seme, said in a telephone interview from Pretoria that Semenya “is going to compete as a woman and will remain a woman until she dies.”

Asked whether Semenya had been cleared to compete as a woman without further testing or surgery, Seme said: “I don’t want to talk about that. The only thing I want to say is that I’m happy Caster will retain her title as the fastest 800-meter runner in the world. The most important thing when you are an athlete is to get your medal.”

Disputes in sports over athletes’ sex are rare, and perhaps never has such a case been as volatile as the one that emerged at the world championships, when it became apparent how unprepared her sport was to handle cases of athletes who may have both male and female characteristics.

As Semenya posted the fastest time of the year in the 800 meters, track officials said they had begun sex verification testing on her, but South African officials said that they were blindsided by the claims and insulted that officials disclosed such private information.

In September, Leonard Chuene, president of Athletics South Africa, apologized for denying knowledge of the sex tests done on Semenya in his country, saying he had hoped to protect her privacy.

After Semenya won the world title, international track officials ordered more tests, saying questions had been raised about her muscular physique and drastic improvement.

Chuene said that tests had been conducted at a Pretoria hospital on Aug. 7 at the behest of the I.A.A.F. Chuene has said that despite medical advice from one of South Africa’s top sports medical officials, he refused to withdraw Semenya from the competition in Berlin because the results of the tests were not yet known.

Athletics South Africa said last month that it had suspended Chuene and the rest of his board.

Sex-determination testing was once obligatory for female athletes at the Olympics because of persistent allegations that some competitors were not really women. Sanctions are very rare. One case came at the 2006 Asian Games, where a middle-distance runner, Santhi Soundarajan of India, was stripped of a silver medal after failing a verification test.

The sex-determination testing was phased out in 1999 because of concerns about inequities. The testing is now reserved for specific cases in Olympic sports.

The testing done on Semenya takes weeks to complete. It requires a physical medical evaluation, and includes reports from a gynecologist, an endocrinologist, a psychologist, an internal medicine specialist and an expert on gender. The effort, coordinated by Dr. Harold Adams, a South African on the I.A.A.F. medical panel, was conducted at hospitals in Berlin and South Africa.

It is unclear what the exact threshold is, in the eyes of the I.A.A.F., for a female athlete being ineligible to compete as a woman.

“The implications of the scientific findings on Caster’s health and life going forward will be analyzed by Caster and she will make her own decision on her future,” the sports ministry said. “Whatever she decides, ours is to respect her decision.”

Track and field’s Monaco-based governing body, known by its initials as the I.A.A.F., did not immediately respond to the statement made by the South African sports ministry. The statement had been expected to be issued next week.

The South African sports ministry said it had asked for an apology from the I.A.A.F., which denied leaking information about Semenya, but responded, “It is deeply regrettable that information of a confidential matter entered the public domain.”

Makhenkesi Stofile, South Africa’s sports minister, described Semenya as excited about the apparent resolution of her case, according to the South African Press Association.

“She will roll with the punches,” Stofile told the press association. “In my view, Caster Semenya’s future is in her hands. She can decide to run as a woman, which she is.”
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:53 AM   #57
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Here you go! I, too am glad that her privacy is being respected now.
Thanks Cors! Yeah, looks like they're showing a bit more respect to her which is nice, if a bit late! Looks like she'll get to continue competing as a woman - and given the stringency of the tests involved - maybe there'll be an end to the media snark at her?
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