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Old 01-26-2012, 03:02 PM   #1
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Default WTF Sweden! Trans people forced to be sterilised if they want official gender change!

I thought Sweden had stopped with its eugenic program of state enforced sterilization, but no!

http://motherjones.com/mixed-media/2...-sterilization

"If a Swedish transgender person wants to legally update their gender on official ID papers, a 1972 law requires them to get both divorced and sterilized first."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=N5BItMiWM60
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:26 PM   #2
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I thought Sweden had stopped with its eugenic program of state enforced sterilization, but no!

http://motherjones.com/mixed-media/2...-sterilization

"If a Swedish transgender person wants to legally update their gender on official ID papers, a 1972 law requires them to get both divorced and sterilized first."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=N5BItMiWM60
Not that different in a lot of countries. Canada is a place where GRS (effectively sterilisation) is required before gender can be legally changed. Here in New Zealand there is no such requirement, but, having got the court order, I couldn't get my birth certificated 'cleaned' until I lost my wife. We simply turned our marriage into a civil union, but even so, that wasn't something I was entirely comfortable with. Better than becoming a widow I suppose!
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Old 04-19-2012, 04:23 PM   #3
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Not that different in a lot of countries. Canada is a place where GRS (effectively sterilisation) is required before gender can be legally changed. Here in New Zealand there is no such requirement, but, having got the court order, I couldn't get my birth certificated 'cleaned' until I lost my wife. We simply turned our marriage into a civil union, but even so, that wasn't something I was entirely comfortable with. Better than becoming a widow I suppose!
Hells bells! That human beings should be so constrained by little boxes on the forms of petty bureaucrats!
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Old 04-19-2012, 06:28 PM   #4
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Hells bells! That human beings should be so constrained by little boxes on the forms of petty bureaucrats!
Yes, all a bit disappointing really. I guess I should be grateful that I live in New Zealand where at least getting a legal gender change is possible without surgery and where I can at least have a civil union. But I have to say it stuck in my craw that I'd have 'lose the wife'. I was tempted to do some legal trickery - because technically a marriage between two women must be a nullity or (we have a two year separation before divorce rule) I could have gone for a divorce on the basis that my relationship was 'not in the nature of marriage' and hadn't been for more than two years because, after all, marriage is a union between 'man and woman'. But in the end I decided to go quietly. While I like advocating for trans causes, a quiet life is a higher priority!
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:52 AM   #5
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In most of the US, surgery is a requirement for official gender change as well.

I'm off the hook for that since I was born in California, which does not require surgery for change of birth certificates, and live in Pennsylvania, which allows you to change your driver's license with a letter from your therapist. But in order to get my birth certificate changed I have to go to a court hearing in California, so it looks like that won't be happening for a while -_-
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