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Old 01-13-2009, 07:07 PM   #1326
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I have to confess I started to edit out what felt like personal attacks in Seth's post, but decided it would be more effective to respond to it.

Seth, when you said "Worry about yourself and your actions and quit trying to police others" it felt to me like you should take your own advice. And your post would probably have been more effective if it wasn't so nasty.

And in defense of Tooz, I think she stated her concerns in a calm and inoffensive way. And heck, we all know what it's like when people say biased things without realizing they are being offensive.

I don't have a problem with a little enlightenment.
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:41 PM   #1327
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I have to confess I started to edit out what felt like personal attacks in Seth's post, but decided it would be more effective to respond to it.
You did edit my typo back in.

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Seth, when you said "Worry about yourself and your actions and quit trying to police others" it felt to me like you should take your own advice. And your post would probably have been more effective if it wasn't so nasty.
My post was hardly nasty. Strongly worded and blunt, yes. But nasty it was not. As for "taking my own advice," if Tooz sees fit to slap people around for what she perceives as their faults, than it is only fair that I am allowed to as well.

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And in defense of Tooz, I think she stated her concerns in a calm and inoffensive way. And heck, we all know what it's like when people say biased things without realizing they are being offensive.

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There is nothing enlightening about being called a racist (which is, by proxy what you are calling someone when you claim they said something that is racist). What you consider calm and inoffensive I consider meddlesome and baiting.
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:35 PM   #1328
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It did look like it was pretty nasty actually. Just sayin'
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I'm not trying to be obtuse, but how is thejuicyone's remark a racist one? Juicy's comment on her picture set doesn't fit a racist remark as defined by the dictionary.

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She isn't singling out the Asian race as bad. She isn't saying that being Filipino and/or a prostitute is bad or that they are less than her for being that. She is also not saying the all Filipinos are prostitutes. She isn't being intolerant of Asians in general, Filipinos specifically and prostitutes as a whole. (No pun intended) If she wants to describe her pictures using words similar to the "mating call" of an asian prostitute, then that's her business.

So where is the racism? I am not seeing it and I am Asian. People can and do take offense at the slightest provocation. Sometimes it is only a perceived offense. Just because you take offense to something doesn't mean it is necessarily offensive. Lastly, I can say that Jane Smith's mother has oral copulation with indigent men for very little money. Presenting it in a calm manner does not make it any less offensive. The accusation itself is offensive. Refusing to provide evidence or a reason behind the accusation is avoiding responsibility.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:17 PM   #1331
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I'm not trying to be obtuse, but how is thejuicyone's remark a racist one? Juicy's comment on her picture set doesn't fit a racist remark as defined by the dictionary.

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She isn't singling out the Asian race as bad. She isn't saying that being Filipino and/or a prostitute is bad or that they are less than her for being that. She is also not saying the all Filipinos are prostitutes. She isn't being intolerant of Asians in general, Filipinos specifically and prostitutes as a whole. (No pun intended) If she wants to describe her pictures using words similar to the "mating call" of an asian prostitute, then that's her business.

So where is the racism? I am not seeing it and I am Asian. People can and do take offense at the slightest provocation. Sometimes it is only a perceived offense. Just because you take offense to something doesn't mean it is necessarily offensive. Lastly, I can say that Jane Smith's mother has oral copulation with indigent men for very little money. Presenting it in a calm manner does not make it any less offensive. The accusation itself is offensive. Refusing to provide evidence or a reason behind the accusation is avoiding responsibility.
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I have to confess I started to edit out what felt like personal attacks in Seth's post, but decided it would be more effective to respond to it.

Seth, when you said "Worry about yourself and your actions and quit trying to police others" it felt to me like you should take your own advice. And your post would probably have been more effective if it wasn't so nasty.

And in defense of Tooz, I think she stated her concerns in a calm and inoffensive way. And heck, we all know what it's like when people say biased things without realizing they are being offensive.

I don't have a problem with a little enlightenment.

I disagree SoVerySoft, I am sick to death of people like Tooz inventing offense where there is none and derailing people's good cheer. I am in total agreement with you Seth- good posts.

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Old 01-13-2009, 11:26 PM   #1333
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Well, tooz should have given thejuicyone a break, considering she had no problem using the "n" word in an older thread. Then she had the nerve to tell me and others to "calm down". But I guess we did not deserve the respect.

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And it strikes me as quite offensive that you just had to call the poster out publicly over your precious little sensitivities. You could have sent a PM or better yet, you could have accepted that no offense was intended or even implied and kept your mouth shut. Instead, you got on your high horse and began crowing about how offended you were. Frankly, that just makes you look like a busybody with too much time on her hands. Worry about yourself and your actions and quit trying to police others and make them feel guilty when there is no reason to. Frankly, it is tiring because really, the only reason anyone would act like you did is to make themselves feel better about how "enlightened" and "morally superior" they are.

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Okay boys, I know juicy is pretty hot and tempting, and your chivalry reflex is kicking in, but that's NO reason to paint Tooz into some bitter old "fun ruining" shell. She felt it was racist. Some people might've felt my dad's impersonation of a chinese cabbie "five dolla I no run you ova" is racist. Some might think it's funny. What they said was definitely NOT PC. That's what.
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My post was hardly nasty. Strongly worded and blunt, yes. But nasty it was not. As for "taking my own advice," if Tooz sees fit to slap people around for what she perceives as their faults, than it is only fair that I am allowed to as well.

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And it strikes me as quite offensive that you just had to call the poster out publicly over your precious little sensitivities. You could have sent a PM or better yet, you could have accepted that no offense was intended or even implied and kept your mouth shut. Instead, you got on your high horse and began crowing about how offended you were. Frankly, that just makes you look like a busybody with too much time on her hands. Worry about yourself and your actions and quit trying to police others and make them feel guilty when there is no reason to. Frankly, it is tiring because really, the only reason anyone would act like you did is to make themselves feel better about how "enlightened" and "morally superior" they are.

My fondest wish is that people like you fall off of their high horse - and HARD!
Actually, that wasn't my intent at all, which, after I stated what I did in my last post, I let it drop. It was clear she disagreed, which, ok, ultimately there is no point in trying to convince her otherwise and I am fine with that. I did not "crow," I did not try to "police her," and I am not a busybody. How much time I have on my hands is frankly none of anyone's business. I also think it took you quite a bit more time to sit here and torch me than it did for me to express mild concern over something I didn't like seeing.

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You know, that was a completely different situation. You make it sound like I spew epithets casually. I do not, simply put. In that situation, I was saying within the boundaries of academic writing and discourse, it is not professional to say "the 'n' word" (or ANY OTHER "the 'letter here' word"). That is NOT the same as this. Period. That being said, I appreciate your opinion but I wish you would differentiate between the two situations.

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Okay boys, I know juicy is pretty hot and tempting, and your chivalry reflex is kicking in, but that's NO reason to paint Tooz into some bitter old "fun ruining" shell. She felt it was racist. Some people might've felt my dad's impersonation of a chinese cabbie "five dolla I no run you ova" is racist. Some might think it's funny. What they said was definitely NOT PC. That's what.
Thank you. And, maybe I should have said that it's "not really appropriate," instead of saying it's kind of racist. But, then again, someone somewhere else in this post is "policing" my use of words.
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Yes, it was a completely different situation. You used that word after many people expressed that they were offended by its use when it was not necessary. We would have gotten your point. So it is lame to use the excuse of "academic writing and discourse". I did not even hint that you spew epithets casually. It was insensitive to dismiss the feelings of others in a thread that was already racially charged. thejuicyone wasn't adding fuel to a fire in this thread. She was quoting lines in a film. And she was not dismissing your opinion.

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Why don't you just open a thread on Hyde Park where you can go on discussiing this?
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Old 01-14-2009, 03:20 PM   #1347
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