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Old 12-26-2009, 12:30 PM   #1
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I've closed the poll thread and started this thread so we can move forward fresh with the information below.



I know many of you feel strongly about the location and I totally understand. I actually have personal preferences as to where I'd like it to be myself as an attendee. I can assure you, that just as AnnMarie said, my personal preference isn't to have it in my backyard either.

I feel it's important to remind you all that I need your support even if your first choice wasn't chosen. I need to do what's best for the bash so that it can continue to be a success for years to come. Once we establish a following of folks who just can't live without their yearly fix of fatties and friends - then we can go anywhere we'd like and people will follow.

So I hope everyone understands and respects whatever decisions we have to make as a staff to move towards meeting those goals.

Most importantly, I want people who have shared in this post that your thoughts and input have NOT been taken into consideration and those ideas/thoughts will be considered as we move forward this year and in future years.

So as it stands, the best information as an update that I can offer now is the following:

1. I'm looking at June 9th to 13th and June 16th to 20th.
2. If I cannot find availability for June, I will be looking at August 11th to 15th with September being the last choice.
3. The event will not be in the same location as last year.
4. The event will be in the Northeast.
5. Our search is now targeted within the following target areas:

A. Southern NJ Area
B. Philadelphia Area
C. Baltimore/DC/Arlington Area

Please note that the above places can be very "vacation-like" with local attractions/sights/itineraries that can be added into your Dims Bash vacation. Many people travel to these places all year round and being that most of them are coastal or near large bodies of water, they are also great spots for summer vacations too. Quite popular in fact.

In closing, I struggle with whether or not I should post where I've begun my search. By doing so, it will lead to lots of questions and/or excitement and I'm still VERY unsure that I'm even able to make it happen within our budget and needs as it's a very popular vacation area, especially in the summer. But I've decided to share as maybe there is someone out here that might be able to give me some inside information and help in order to put it together. So, with that being said, I'm working towards Atlantic City, NJ. I think it may be out of our reach, but it has many valuable assets that it would bring to making the Dimensions Bash comfortable, accessible, vacation-like and a success.

I don't want to be a broken record.. but one more time .. hehe...
I hope (need/beg) that you will support all that I've written above and continue to do so as we move forward. We need your support to drive all the hard work ahead of us to make Dimensions Bash 2010 just as good as last year and hopefully better!

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Old 12-26-2009, 02:39 PM   #2
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Well, when you listed the three possibilities, i thought...ok...philly is doable, because i recently saw that flights to there are very affordable, however when you posted atlantic city, flights that far NE are very much not affordable for me personally....so unfortunately i, myself, will be ruled out for this year, but I hope everyone has just as good a time as they did this past year and I hope that in future years that money or locations are better for me so that i can attend again.

I guess I got spoiled having lived up in the NE for a couple years in attending the events and so definitely look forward to them again.
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Old 12-26-2009, 04:51 PM   #3
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For my own selfish reasons I say Philly.....I've been to NJ and I've been to Baltimore, never been to Philly.

Had a chance to go to Philly once and I chickened out, would be nice to rectify the situation.
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Old 12-26-2009, 05:58 PM   #4
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Rowan,

Atlantic City is only an hour from Philadelphia airport by car. So you saying that AC is too far NE to be able to afford, doesn't make sense.

Not only that, but AC airport has incredibly cheap deals from select cities. A few of them being in FL for only around $59 each way for a regular seat and $99 each way for a BIG SEAT which is a bigger seat that was once called first class.

So essentially, you can fly to this event if it's in Atlantic City cheaper then most by living in one of the few cities with direct flights to AC airport. Heck, I'd say it's probably 1/3 the cost or even less!

So, ruling your attendance out based on flight cost should be re-evaluated.

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Well, when you listed the three possibilities, i thought...ok...philly is doable, because i recently saw that flights to there are very affordable, however when you posted atlantic city, flights that far NE are very much not affordable for me personally....so unfortunately i, myself, will be ruled out for this year, but I hope everyone has just as good a time as they did this past year and I hope that in future years that money or locations are better for me so that i can attend again.

I guess I got spoiled having lived up in the NE for a couple years in attending the events and so definitely look forward to them again.
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For my own selfish reasons I say Philly.....I've been to NJ and I've been to Baltimore, never been to Philly.

Had a chance to go to Philly once and I chickened out, would be nice to rectify the situation.
Hi Kevin,

We aren't polling anymore for location preferences. We took the poll majority and then narrowed it down to the top 3 choices we thought would work. So right now that's where we are starting

Just so you know, going to one area of NJ isn't the same as all of the areas. Southern NJ is very different then Northern NJ. Atlantic City is on the jersey shore - much, much different area.

I don't even know if we can touch AC, but if we do, I want people to know it will be a completely different surrounding then northern NJ/NY metro-type areas.

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Atlantic City is only an hour from Philadelphia airport by car. So you saying that AC is too far NE to be able to afford, doesn't make sense.

Not only that, but AC airport has incredibly cheap deals from select cities. A few of them being in FL for only around $59 each way for a regular seat and $99 each way for a BIG SEAT which is a bigger seat that was once called first class.

So essentially, you can fly to this event if it's in Atlantic City cheaper then most by living in one of the few cities with direct flights to AC airport. Heck, I'd say it's probably 1/3 the cost or even less!

So, ruling your attendance out based on flight cost should be re-evaluated.

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well when i look at flights to boston and NJ and such, ive not found cheap flights. I recently looked at philly and found $150 for a round trip flight, so that is what i was basing my guess about the costs about atlantic city on. As far as it being an hour away, i dont rely on rides from other people because i find other people to be horrendously unreliable and so id have to add into the cost that of a car as well. So that's why i was definitely rooting for SE intially or philly because SE I can drive and philly i know someone. Perhaps when the time comes and things are all laid out and in stone, maybe then I can have a better idea of if i can afford to go or not, but i definitely cant make plans with so much up in the air.

but thanks for the info..
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I don't think you've read what I said. There is an airport in Atlantic City, albeit a small one. One that you can fly to directly from Florida for cheaper then the flight you mentioned to Philly. Florida is one of the handful of states that have a direct, cheap flight to ACY. Others have connections, etc.

If the Philly deal was a better one, you could take a shuttle bus right from Philly Airport to Atlantic City for probably $20 round trip and maybe even get a casino bonus that refunds that. Atlantic City is a very popular destination with travel buses coming from all surrounding areas for cheap. I remember taking the bus to AC from Yonkers, NY ages ago. It was $18 RT and I got a $10 cash back slot play and a free buffet. So basically they were paying me to go.

There is also a rail option directly from the airport that with one connection would get you to AC in a little over the amount of time it would take to drive and for about $15 or $20. SEPTA has a direct rail line servicing the Philadelphia airport which will take you downtown and connect you to the NJ Transit express rail line that quickly gets you to Atlantic City. Source(s): www.septa.com www.njtransit.com

I am just saying, don't shoot down the location based on price, when it's much cheaper to get there then you realize. If anything, you are in a extremely favorable location when it comes to expenses to get to AC. One of the reasons we are targeting AC is not only because of the beautiful coastal beaches, the attractions/amenities/scooters/shopping but also because it's super cheap to travel to and there are many options for different people.

We will be posting compiled travel information and tips if we are able to find a location in AC that will pick us up in our budget and work for the bash.

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well when i look at flights to boston and NJ and such, ive not found cheap flights. I recently looked at philly and found $150 for a round trip flight, so that is what i was basing my guess about the costs about atlantic city on. As far as it being an hour away, i dont rely on rides from other people because i find other people to be horrendously unreliable and so id have to add into the cost that of a car as well. So that's why i was definitely rooting for SE intially or philly because SE I can drive and philly i know someone. Perhaps when the time comes and things are all laid out and in stone, maybe then I can have a better idea of if i can afford to go or not, but i definitely cant make plans with so much up in the air.

but thanks for the info..

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I flew out of the AC airport to go to the bash in Florida. I live in Newark, a mile from the Newark airport. SO I drove over 100 miles to AC to catch that flight. That is how good of a deal I got out of AC. So, keep an eye out Rowan, you will find something.

Truthfully, the bash can be held anywhere. I am willing to travel where ever to show my support for Dimensions. I had a blast last year. To me having the opportunity to discuss the issues of our community face to face is worth the investment of travel.

I have been to all three areas and all of them have stuff to do. They are all good picks and are very fun. For the foodees, Philly is full of the best of everything! AC is all about the buffets. Not sure about the food in the other area but I will research.
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OH and if flying into Philly, there is a direct septa train from Philly to AC. You should not encounter a problem or need to rent a car.

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Cool beans, Heather! AC never would have occurred to me, but it makes perfect sense!

I've always wanted to go to AC - maybe it's just the romantic idea of strolling along the famous boardwalk (beach without having to actually walk on sand? I'm in!), salt water taffy and other fairground-type foods.

I'm fine with the other locations as well - it's all about the fattie community, after all.
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Is the water in the ocean warm enough in June in AC? Or should I ask. Is the water safe to swim in?

Another thing to keep in mind the dates that you have chosen besides June 16th-20th kids and teachers are in school at the beginning of June an in August and September.

I've been to AC twice and it seems like a fun place with things to do. Don't know how safe or how big the BBW scene is in that immediate area but hey it's some place new. Just hope it's nice and warm.
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The weather is summertime in June in AC. It averages in the 78-88 temperature.

As far as the ocean, I don't know the degrees, but I do know people go in it in the Summer. As far as safety, it's as safe as any other ocean I imagine. I think a few decades ago there was a shark attack, but it's uncommon.

For swimming, we will be choosing a hotel with a pool and that is where I imagine most people will spend their water time as beaches/sands are not size friendly for most BBWs.

I won't go in the ocean myself, I am like a fat buoy and the tide just pulls me out to sea each wave :P haha. That and unless the sand is wet and hard packed, I can't do sand walking. But I do know some girls my size still check the beach out, I'm just saying me personally. BUT, I will enjoy the ocean view, the smells, the boardwalk and the marina - all fun stuff.

Just a reminder though - I am not sure I can get into a hotel in AC within our budget. So don't make any solid plans until we finalize a location.

As for children and teachers, there isn't much we can do. We need to space our bash far enough away from the Vegas Bash and NAAFA. Both of which are in July and August. So to keep it in the summer, we need to do June. There have been many bashes over the years in Fall/Spring/Winter months when school is in and they've worked out as a complete success and we have to move forward with that in mind. Also, for AC, I would push to make sure that kids were still in school during our time there, because it means that there would be less families vacationing there and more adults. I love kids, but an overwhelming amount of them around areas where fat ladies are in bathing suits doesn't always make for a great mix.
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The weather is summertime in June in AC. It averages in the 78-88 temperature.

As far as the ocean, I don't know the degrees, but I do know people go in it in the Summer. As far as safety, it's as safe as any other ocean I imagine. I think a few decades ago there was a shark attack, but it's uncommon.

For swimming, we will be choosing a hotel with a pool and that is where I imagine most people will spend their water time as beaches/sands are not size friendly for most BBWs.

I won't go in the ocean myself, I am like a fat buoy and the tide just pulls me out to sea each wave :P haha. That and unless the sand is wet and hard packed, I can't do sand walking. But I do know some girls my size still check the beach out, I'm just saying me personally. BUT, I will enjoy the ocean view, the smells, the boardwalk and the marina - all fun stuff.

Just a reminder though - I am not sure I can get into a hotel in AC within our budget. So don't make any solid plans until we finalize a location.

As for children and teachers, there isn't much we can do. We need to space our bash far enough away from the Vegas Bash and NAAFA. Both of which are in July and August. So to keep it in the summer, we need to do June. There have been many bashes over the years in Fall/Spring/Winter months when school is in and they've worked out as a complete success and we have to move forward with that in mind. Also, for AC, I would push to make sure that kids were still in school during our time there, because it means that there would be less families vacationing there and more adults. I love kids, but an overwhelming amount of them around areas where fat ladies are in bathing suits doesn't always make for a great mix.
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Jersey shore in the summer months is going to be packed with kids, school or no school. Especially, weekends. A lot of conventions are held down the shore too, VFW, Fire Fighters, Police Officers, etc. I'm not sure about AC but towns like Wildwood and Point Pleasant have one convention after another in the summer. Booking will be tough in any NJ shore town during summer months. Still, I love the shore. The shops, the beach, the craziness that is the boardwalk...*sigh* The only place in the world I'll eat salt water taffy and wear a t-shirt that says, "Wa-wa-watch the tram car, please!" is down the Jersey shore.
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There are many BBW events in your area for you to partake in. We will consider the west coast again in future years as we pick up extra numbers and loyalty attendance.
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Is the water in the ocean warm enough in June in AC? Or should I ask. Is the water safe to swim in?

Another thing to keep in mind the dates that you have chosen besides June 16th-20th kids and teachers are in school at the beginning of June an in August and September.

I've been to AC twice and it seems like a fun place with things to do. Don't know how safe or how big the BBW scene is in that immediate area but hey it's some place new. Just hope it's nice and warm.
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not warm up till July or Aug. The Ocean down in AC can also be rough.
I'm sure there will be a pool in the hotel that is chosen. I'm at the other end of AC about and hour and a half up the coast. The Ocean can be fun,
but different factors to consider. The pool would be a safer way to go.
Another bash in my back yard, this could be interesting.
AC is my other favorite play ground. I'll be their next week

Be well and hope to see you at the Jerzzzzey Shore LOL.
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Woo-Hoo to the area so glad I voted I am in like flint!!! Please be Philly!!! Either way I am SO there
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I know many of you feel strongly about the location and I totally understand. I actually have personal preferences as to where I'd like it to be myself as an attendee. I can assure you, that just as AnnMarie said, my personal preference isn't to have it in my backyard either.

I feel it's important to remind you all that I need your support even if your first choice wasn't chosen. I need to do what's best for the bash so that it can continue to be a success for years to come. Once we establish a following of folks who just can't live without their yearly fix of fatties and friends - then we can go anywhere we'd like and people will follow.

So I hope everyone understands and respects whatever decisions we have to make as a staff to move towards meeting those goals.

Most importantly, I want people who have shared in this post that your thoughts and input have NOT been taken into consideration and those ideas/thoughts will be considered as we move forward this year and in future years.

So as it stands, the best information as an update that I can offer now is the following:

1. I'm looking at June 9th to 13th and June 16th to 20th.
2. If I cannot find availability for June, I will be looking at August 11th to 15th with September being the last choice.
3. The event will not be in the same location as last year.
4. The event will be in the Northeast.
5. Our search is now targeted within the following target areas:

A. Southern NJ Area
B. Philadelphia Area
C. Baltimore/DC/Arlington Area

Please note that the above places can be very "vacation-like" with local attractions/sights/itineraries that can be added into your Dims Bash vacation. Many people travel to these places all year round and being that most of them are coastal or near large bodies of water, they are also great spots for summer vacations too. Quite popular in fact.

In closing, I struggle with whether or not I should post where I've begun my search. By doing so, it will lead to lots of questions and/or excitement and I'm still VERY unsure that I'm even able to make it happen within our budget and needs as it's a very popular vacation area, especially in the summer. But I've decided to share as maybe there is someone out here that might be able to give me some inside information and help in order to put it together. So, with that being said, I'm working towards Atlantic City, NJ. I think it may be out of our reach, but it has many valuable assets that it would bring to making the Dimensions Bash comfortable, accessible, vacation-like and a success.

I don't want to be a broken record.. but one more time .. hehe...
I hope (need/beg) that you will support all that I've written above and continue to do so as we move forward. We need your support to drive all the hard work ahead of us to make Dimensions Bash 2010 just as good as last year and hopefully better!

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I'll be there, whereever it is. I'm sure that no matter what the location I can find plenty to do to keep me busy. Atlantic City would be great so long as the bash was able to remain affordable (which I know is your goal)!
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I'd like to come. Depends on whether I have school that week or not. I have school year round with a week off every ten weeks, so it depends on when it falls. /shrug.
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Thanks to Heather & crew for volunteering to put this on again. From what I heard via some of last year's attendees...it was fantastic!

Chances of us being able to make it this year are slim(irony not intended) and none, given usual commitments. But we will try to work it in if possible.

FWIW, I vectored over to Atlantic City in '97 when I visited the Philly conference and enjoyed the scene. The boardwalk was a fun place, and all four of us managed to come out ahead at the casinos. I know nothing about typical costs of the area in relation to hosting a convention, however, though June sounds like the best month.

Gotta get back to bowl games - Happy 2010!
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