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Old 12-10-2009, 10:14 AM   #176
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I don't consider myself a feeder, I tend to eat the same portions as I give to my wife. Maybe I'm a feedee too?!?

Last night's dinner. Pork on english muffins topped with avocado and drenched in fresh made hollandaise (not that vile shit from a packet. Yuck.) Asparagus on the side is good with the excess sauce.
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:26 AM   #177
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Is it just me or are there others out there that see a slight connection between feedism and the death of some of our loved ones on this board? How utterly, utterly bizarre to be celebrating the thing that had everything to do with the demise of some of our beloved friends.

I really, really don't get it.

Um yeahhh Les you might want to disappear for a year or two and come back when you've worked out some of YOUR issues
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Old 12-11-2009, 08:50 AM   #179
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It seems no one even thinks about the health of these people.
It's the responsibility of the feedee/gainer to think for themselves about the ramifications of their actions. A clear-minded adult who happens to make a lifestyle choice that you disagree with doesn't need saving.
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You can say that being 500 lbs is not in and of itself unhealthy till' you're blue in the face- it doesn't make it true.
i don't think anyone here denies the health risks of being 500 lbs. stop correlating my fantasies with your health decisions as a sentinent adult, thanks.

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Old 12-11-2009, 10:18 AM   #181
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Agreed whole heartedly.

So what if you get off on getting other people fatter? It is literally killing them and anyone who denies this is deluding themselves. And I say this as someone who understands these desires.

It seems no one even thinks about the health of these people. You can say that being 500 lbs is not in and of itself unhealthy till' you're blue in the face- it doesn't make it true. And the sad thing it doesn't matter how many people die, there's nothing that can be done to convince the people here of it.
"Someone who understands these desires" translates into "If you all would just do as I say, I'd feel better and wouldn't have to educate you on health, risks, right and wrong, bad and good. I hereby demand all of you stop gaining weight or enjoying it, and everyone who is tickled by weight gain cease feeling that way immediately.

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Old 12-11-2009, 11:20 AM   #182
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Agreed whole heartedly.

So what if you get off on getting other people fatter? It is literally killing them and anyone who denies this is deluding themselves. And I say this as someone who understands these desires.

It seems no one even thinks about the health of these people. You can say that being 500 lbs is not in and of itself unhealthy till' you're blue in the face- it doesn't make it true. And the sad thing it doesn't matter how many people die, there's nothing that can be done to convince the people here of it.
The other night I left rehearsal early because I wasn't feeling well. Usually I get a ride home from rehearsal but because I left early I had to go home on the subway. My illness turns out to be the H1N1 virus but I digress.

As I arrived at my final transfer point I realized I had missed the bus by 5 minutes. I had to wait 55 minutes for the next bus and because of my diminished health that was not ideal. I turned to go to an ATM to get cab fare when I was approached by a scraggly looking man asking me for $10. I told him I didnt have it and went on my way.

After I got the money from the ATM, I took the elevator back down in to the station to get back on the subway. If I go farther the cab fare will be less. A few moments passed when suddenly from out of nowhere appeared the same man who approached me upstairs. This time he was not alone, he had another man with him -- one I had seen upstairs but didn't connect the two of them together. They came quickly toward me. One of them uttered, "Do you have $10 now, bitch?" Just then the elevator went, "DING!" The two of them stopped in their tracks and wandered off to the side. Out of the elevator came a bunch of people. I quickly walked past the two men and further down the platform to a much more visible spot. The train arrived and I got on. The good news: those men didn't get my money or my life. The bad news: they didn't get caught and I didn't get to give them the H1N1 virus.

I hereby proclaim here and now: If I should die, by any means, and someone tries to use my death as a means to scare the grieving with false inuendo let that person be cursed to their souls.

You, and Les are sick puppies.
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Old 12-11-2009, 11:29 AM   #183
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One of them uttered, "Do you have $10 now, bitch?".
I would have been like, "YES I DO HAVE TEN DOLLARS NOW, IT IS FOR CAB FARE BECAUSE I HAVE H1N1 BUT YOU CAN HAS IT IF YOU WANT." Then I would have coughed and slobbered all over it.
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Hey guys, I'm going to say "I'm sorry but..." or "Not to offend" before I say something monumentally ignorant and exploitative of a recent poster's death.

Is that cool with you guys?
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I used to be a soft belly lover - until I googled "belly fat risks" and now I see how dangerous it is for one to have excess fat on their stomach.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/belly-fat/WO00128

all you softbellylovers need to stop being so selfish and advocating this sort of thing. No matter how much you delude yourself into thinking it's acceptable, it's not.
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I used to be a soft belly lover - until I googled "belly fat risks" and now I see how dangerous it is for one to have excess fat on their stomach.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/belly-fat/WO00128

all you softbellylovers need to stop being so selfish and advocating this sort of thing. No matter how much you delude yourself into thinking it's acceptable, it's not.
I read the article you placed a link to and nowhere in the article did it make a distinction between soft belly fat and non-soft belly fat.

As someone with diabetes, I'm well aware of the role that obesity plays in this disease, but hereditary and diet make up an equally large if not even more significant role in a person's chance of developing diabetes.

Seeing as how I've never heard any endocrinologist make a distinction between the harmful effects of fat that forms on the stomach and fat that forms anywhere else on the body (the article's byline simply said 'Mayo Clinic staff'), doesn't that mean that your term "soft belly lovers" is just a synonym for "fat admirers"? Are you really criticizing all FAs? And if you are, why do you continue to frequent DIMS?
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I would have been like, "YES I DO HAVE TEN DOLLARS NOW, IT IS FOR CAB FARE BECAUSE I HAVE H1N1 BUT YOU CAN HAS IT IF YOU WANT." Then I would have coughed and slobbered all over it.
Those two goons were dope fiends. I'm sure they would have taken it and then strip searched me to see if I had weed. Seriously when it's THAT bad, they don't care.
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Those two goons were dope fiends. I'm sure they would have taken it and then strip searched me to see if I had weed. Seriously when it's THAT bad, they don't care.
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I read the article you placed a link to and nowhere in the article did it make a distinction between soft belly fat and non-soft belly fat.

As someone with diabetes, I'm well aware of the role that obesity plays in this disease, but hereditary and diet make up an equally large if not even more significant role in a person's chance of developing diabetes.

Seeing as how I've never heard any endocrinologist make a distinction between the harmful effects of fat that forms on the stomach and fat that forms anywhere else on the body (the article's byline simply said 'Mayo Clinic staff'), doesn't that mean that your term "soft belly lovers" is just a synonym for "fat admirers"? Are you really criticizing all FAs? And if you are, why do you continue to frequent DIMS?
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I know that people need, want and demand their privacy in matters as sensitive as death. But it's times and posts like this that make me want them to consider what that privacy allows people to think.

Rhonda did NOT die because she was fat. Rhonda did NOT die from an illness that her being fat would add to or would make her illness fatal. So whether Rhonda was skinny or fat, she would have had this illness and the cause would have eventually have been death.

So sure, she was a model that catered to fantasies that involved weight gain and she did gain weight over the years. BUT unless you knew her personally and the inner workings of her life, love and health - then you can't make judgments on her death and it's cause even if she was a bazillion pounds.

I for one know that Rhonda was a take-no-shit kinda gal. I know this just from her posts and few interactions I've had with her over the years. That being said, it's my opinion (nothing more) that even though I know it wasn't, but that if her illness was aggravated whatsoever by her weight, that she'd have battled to lose the weight to increase her health. Instead, you all assume she did the opposite.

As for Cindy, she didn't die from anything fat related either. I know this for a FACT! In light of all this ignorance being thrown around, I'm going to see about talking with her family to see if her story can be told. Maybe then, people can stop making assumptions.

I'll be the first one to admit being huge (I'm well over 500 lbs) is not easy. What I will say, is that it's my choice and I know the risks. It's my body, my life and I reserve the right to do as I'd like. But don't think for a moment that I'm trying to kill myself slowly with fat. I monitor my health and visit the doctor regularly. Besides mobility and reach issues (that quite frankly can be a turn-on as much as a hassle), I am actually very healthy. I'm sure the folks that made those horrid, ignorant posts in this thread think that I'm a complete liar and that if I died tomorrow it would be because I'm so huge. But that'd only be correct if I was shot by a crazy gunman because I was the biggest, fattest and therefore easiest target in the crowd of people he open fired into to hit.

Anyhoo, I forget why I even made this post. I'm just so sick of it all and I don't even know what points I'm trying to make and if I'm making any sense. I'm just so frustrated.

What I do know is I wish that the deaths of those we have lost in this community because of illnesses or accidents that were completely not fat related were able to be shared with the permission of their families. Because I fear that people that are new to size acceptance or self acceptance around here, who read threads like this with these horrid assumptions will be scared away back into a place where loving their bodies, their preferences, their fantasies isn't an option.
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I know that people need, want and demand their privacy in matters as sensitive as death. But it's times and posts like this that make me want them to consider what that privacy allows people to think.

Rhonda did NOT die because she was fat. Rhonda did NOT die from an illness that her being fat would add to or would make her illness fatal. So whether Rhonda was skinny or fat, she would have had this illness and the cause would have eventually have been death.

So sure, she was a model that catered to fantasies that involved weight gain and she did gain weight over the years. BUT unless you knew her personally and the inner workings of her life, love and health - then you can't make judgments on her death and it's cause even if she was a bazillion pounds.

I for one know that Rhonda was a take-no-shit kinda gal. I know this just from her posts and few interactions I've had with her over the years. That being said, it's my opinion (nothing more) that even though I know it wasn't, but that if her illness was aggravated whatsoever by her weight, that she'd have battled to lose the weight to increase her health. Instead, you all assume she did the opposite.

As for Cindy, she didn't die from anything fat related either. I know this for a FACT! In light of all this ignorance being thrown around, I'm going to see about talking with her family to see if her story can be told. Maybe then, people can stop making assumptions.

I'll be the first one to admit being huge (I'm well over 500 lbs) is not easy. What I will say, is that it's my choice and I know the risks. It's my body, my life and I reserve the right to do as I'd like. But don't think for a moment that I'm trying to kill myself slowly with fat. I monitor my health and visit the doctor regularly. Besides mobility and reach issues (that quite frankly can be a turn-on as much as a hassle), I am actually very healthy. I'm sure the folks that made those horrid, ignorant posts in this thread think that I'm a complete liar and that if I died tomorrow it would be because I'm so huge. But that'd only be correct if I was shot by a crazy gunman because I was the biggest, fattest and therefore easiest target in the crowd of people he open fired into to hit.

Anyhoo, I forget why I even made this post. I'm just so sick of it all and I don't even know what points I'm trying to make and if I'm making any sense. I'm just so frustrated.

What I do know is I wish that the deaths of those we have lost in this community because of illnesses or accidents that were completely not fat related were able to be shared with the permission of their families. Because I fear that people that are new to size acceptance or self acceptance around here, who read threads like this with these horrid assumptions will be scared away back into a place where loving their bodies, their preferences, their fantasies isn't an option.
I agree with a lot of this. I have noticed waves of panic rippling through a lot of the people here, fears that Rhonda's untimely death was caused by her weight. A lot of people here tend to talk big game about fat and it being ok to be fat, but I find they crumble when something like this happens-- sort of like, "Oh God, it really ISN'T ok." We do not know what happened. I could get hit by a bus tomorrow and someone'd say, "SHE WAS TOO FAT. CLEARLY HER BLOOD SUGAR WAS 6,000 AND HER BP WAS 300/100." I know it's hard to stand firm in the face of overwhelming opposition, but come on. Just because a fat person has died does not mean the fat caused the death. By assuming it was fat-related, people are being harmfully judgmental. Really makes us no better than the people who assume ALL fat people are not healthy.

I am really ready for the omgbesity "epidemic" to tone down a bit.
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I read the article you placed a link to and nowhere in the article did it make a distinction between soft belly fat and non-soft belly fat.

As someone with diabetes, I'm well aware of the role that obesity plays in this disease, but hereditary and diet make up an equally large if not even more significant role in a person's chance of developing diabetes.

Seeing as how I've never heard any endocrinologist make a distinction between the harmful effects of fat that forms on the stomach and fat that forms anywhere else on the body (the article's byline simply said 'Mayo Clinic staff'), doesn't that mean that your term "soft belly lovers" is just a synonym for "fat admirers"? Are you really criticizing all FAs? And if you are, why do you continue to frequent DIMS?
Ok .. I'm sorry, but my tongue was indeed firmly in my cheek when I made that post.

I wasn't criticizing all FAs. I was pointing out how some people on this site need to look at this board from the outside looking in every once in a while. For your average person, some one being an FA regardless of a feederism desire is the same as one without it. They believe if you have a preference for fat people, you're "advocating" poor health (which I do not think is true at all). I even said softbellylover in reference to the poster who made the accusation that feederism is what is causing problems with those who are into it.

I thought it was ridiculous to say such a thing and that we should try to support one another on here instead of knocking each other down. Whether you're into feedism/feederism or whatever, everyone who is a feeder or a feedee here is an FA/FFA/BBW/BHM first and foremost and there will always be that stigma about it coming from the average person, so, really, no one should be criticizing anyone when it comes to the health aspect. When it all comes down to it there will hopefully always be that concern for those we care about and admire amongst every FA regardless of whether they're a feeder or not.

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I know that people need, want and demand their privacy in matters as sensitive as death. But it's times and posts like this that make me want them to consider what that privacy allows people to think.

Rhonda did NOT die because she was fat. Rhonda did NOT die from an illness that her being fat would add to or would make her illness fatal. So whether Rhonda was skinny or fat, she would have had this illness and the cause would have eventually have been death.

So sure, she was a model that catered to fantasies that involved weight gain and she did gain weight over the years. BUT unless you knew her personally and the inner workings of her life, love and health - then you can't make judgments on her death and it's cause even if she was a bazillion pounds.

I for one know that Rhonda was a take-no-shit kinda gal. I know this just from her posts and few interactions I've had with her over the years. That being said, it's my opinion (nothing more) that even though I know it wasn't, but that if her illness was aggravated whatsoever by her weight, that she'd have battled to lose the weight to increase her health. Instead, you all assume she did the opposite.

As for Cindy, she didn't die from anything fat related either. I know this for a FACT! In light of all this ignorance being thrown around, I'm going to see about talking with her family to see if her story can be told. Maybe then, people can stop making assumptions.

I'll be the first one to admit being huge (I'm well over 500 lbs) is not easy. What I will say, is that it's my choice and I know the risks. It's my body, my life and I reserve the right to do as I'd like. But don't think for a moment that I'm trying to kill myself slowly with fat. I monitor my health and visit the doctor regularly. Besides mobility and reach issues (that quite frankly can be a turn-on as much as a hassle), I am actually very healthy. I'm sure the folks that made those horrid, ignorant posts in this thread think that I'm a complete liar and that if I died tomorrow it would be because I'm so huge. But that'd only be correct if I was shot by a crazy gunman because I was the biggest, fattest and therefore easiest target in the crowd of people he open fired into to hit.

Anyhoo, I forget why I even made this post. I'm just so sick of it all and I don't even know what points I'm trying to make and if I'm making any sense. I'm just so frustrated.

What I do know is I wish that the deaths of those we have lost in this community because of illnesses or accidents that were completely not fat related were able to be shared with the permission of their families. Because I fear that people that are new to size acceptance or self acceptance around here, who read threads like this with these horrid assumptions will be scared away back into a place where loving their bodies, their preferences, their fantasies isn't an option.
I really hate the idea that we have to prove our right to exist by allowing them to gawk over the death of our friends. Who gives a shit what Les and softbelly thinks? Cindy and Rhonda's family have a right to their privacy.
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The other night I left rehearsal early because I wasn't feeling well. Usually I get a ride home from rehearsal but because I left early I had to go home on the subway. My illness turns out to be the H1N1 virus but I digress.

As I arrived at my final transfer point I realized I had missed the bus by 5 minutes. I had to wait 55 minutes for the next bus and because of my diminished health that was not ideal. I turned to go to an ATM to get cab fare when I was approached by a scraggly looking man asking me for $10. I told him I didnt have it and went on my way.

After I got the money from the ATM, I took the elevator back down in to the station to get back on the subway. If I go farther the cab fare will be less. A few moments passed when suddenly from out of nowhere appeared the same man who approached me upstairs. This time he was not alone, he had another man with him -- one I had seen upstairs but didn't connect the two of them together. They came quickly toward me. One of them uttered, "Do you have $10 now, bitch?" Just then the elevator went, "DING!" The two of them stopped in their tracks and wandered off to the side. Out of the elevator came a bunch of people. I quickly walked past the two men and further down the platform to a much more visible spot. The train arrived and I got on. The good news: those men didn't get my money or my life. The bad news: they didn't get caught and I didn't get to give them the H1N1 virus.

I hereby proclaim here and now: If I should die, by any means, and someone tries to use my death as a means to scare the grieving with false inuendo let that person be cursed to their souls.

You, and Les are sick puppies.
I am glad that you are ok, and got through that scary situation.

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I know that people need, want and demand their privacy in matters as sensitive as death. But it's times and posts like this that make me want them to consider what that privacy allows people to think.

Rhonda did NOT die because she was fat. Rhonda did NOT die from an illness that her being fat would add to or would make her illness fatal. So whether Rhonda was skinny or fat, she would have had this illness and the cause would have eventually have been death.

So sure, she was a model that catered to fantasies that involved weight gain and she did gain weight over the years. BUT unless you knew her personally and the inner workings of her life, love and health - then you can't make judgments on her death and it's cause even if she was a bazillion pounds.

I for one know that Rhonda was a take-no-shit kinda gal. I know this just from her posts and few interactions I've had with her over the years. That being said, it's my opinion (nothing more) that even though I know it wasn't, but that if her illness was aggravated whatsoever by her weight, that she'd have battled to lose the weight to increase her health. Instead, you all assume she did the opposite.

As for Cindy, she didn't die from anything fat related either. I know this for a FACT! In light of all this ignorance being thrown around, I'm going to see about talking with her family to see if her story can be told. Maybe then, people can stop making assumptions.

I'll be the first one to admit being huge (I'm well over 500 lbs) is not easy. What I will say, is that it's my choice and I know the risks. It's my body, my life and I reserve the right to do as I'd like. But don't think for a moment that I'm trying to kill myself slowly with fat. I monitor my health and visit the doctor regularly. Besides mobility and reach issues (that quite frankly can be a turn-on as much as a hassle), I am actually very healthy. I'm sure the folks that made those horrid, ignorant posts in this thread think that I'm a complete liar and that if I died tomorrow it would be because I'm so huge. But that'd only be correct if I was shot by a crazy gunman because I was the biggest, fattest and therefore easiest target in the crowd of people he open fired into to hit.

Anyhoo, I forget why I even made this post. I'm just so sick of it all and I don't even know what points I'm trying to make and if I'm making any sense. I'm just so frustrated.

What I do know is I wish that the deaths of those we have lost in this community because of illnesses or accidents that were completely not fat related were able to be shared with the permission of their families. Because I fear that people that are new to size acceptance or self acceptance around here, who read threads like this with these horrid assumptions will be scared away back into a place where loving their bodies, their preferences, their fantasies isn't an option.
This was a great post.

It is kind of mind-boggling, how very much people assume they know about others whose actual daily lives they know little, if anything, about. All of a sudden we all KNOW that any particular person practiced feederism to an extreme in their everyday lives AND died because of fat-related issues? That's some awesome Magic 8 Ball you've got there, folks.

And as long as we're discussing "ZOMG! deathfat strikes again!", I'm willing to bet that feederism had zippity-doo-dah to do with most of the supersized among us becoming supersized. So, fine, if anyone wants to talk about the health risks of being my size, or Heather's size, or anyone's size, fine, let's do it. But keep in mind, fatness does not happen to most of us because of the evil feeder twirling his mustache behind the curtain, so if you're going to tsk-tsk at feeders and feedees and warn them about the perils of that mythical 500 lb. mark, make sure you save some for me, too, because no one "encouraged" me to this weight.
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I know that people need, want and demand their privacy in matters as sensitive as death. But it's times and posts like this that make me want them to consider what that privacy allows people to think.

Rhonda did NOT die because she was fat. Rhonda did NOT die from an illness that her being fat would add to or would make her illness fatal. So whether Rhonda was skinny or fat, she would have had this illness and the cause would have eventually have been death.

So sure, she was a model that catered to fantasies that involved weight gain and she did gain weight over the years. BUT unless you knew her personally and the inner workings of her life, love and health - then you can't make judgments on her death and it's cause even if she was a bazillion pounds.

I for one know that Rhonda was a take-no-shit kinda gal. I know this just from her posts and few interactions I've had with her over the years. That being said, it's my opinion (nothing more) that even though I know it wasn't, but that if her illness was aggravated whatsoever by her weight, that she'd have battled to lose the weight to increase her health. Instead, you all assume she did the opposite.

As for Cindy, she didn't die from anything fat related either. I know this for a FACT! In light of all this ignorance being thrown around, I'm going to see about talking with her family to see if her story can be told. Maybe then, people can stop making assumptions.

I'll be the first one to admit being huge (I'm well over 500 lbs) is not easy. What I will say, is that it's my choice and I know the risks. It's my body, my life and I reserve the right to do as I'd like. But don't think for a moment that I'm trying to kill myself slowly with fat. I monitor my health and visit the doctor regularly. Besides mobility and reach issues (that quite frankly can be a turn-on as much as a hassle), I am actually very healthy. I'm sure the folks that made those horrid, ignorant posts in this thread think that I'm a complete liar and that if I died tomorrow it would be because I'm so huge. But that'd only be correct if I was shot by a crazy gunman because I was the biggest, fattest and therefore easiest target in the crowd of people he open fired into to hit.

Anyhoo, I forget why I even made this post. I'm just so sick of it all and I don't even know what points I'm trying to make and if I'm making any sense. I'm just so frustrated.

What I do know is I wish that the deaths of those we have lost in this community because of illnesses or accidents that were completely not fat related were able to be shared with the permission of their families. Because I fear that people that are new to size acceptance or self acceptance around here, who read threads like this with these horrid assumptions will be scared away back into a place where loving their bodies, their preferences, their fantasies isn't an option.
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No, I didn't. But in my defense, before I composed my post I had just finished watching a news report about Sarah Palin's new book and apparently doing so lowered my IQ a few notches.

I apologize BothGunsBlazing.
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