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Old 12-20-2007, 11:08 AM   #1
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I am so sick of women trying to look like the women in the magazines! There are so many Fat Friendly Websites but I haven't found any places that emphasize the "Lady Nerd" who I think (other than Fat Hippies) are the hottest ladies around. Lady Nerds, Geeks and Dorks are not fakes, they are as real as a woman can be. Their lack of Make-up and desingner clothes are seen as a negative thing but that is the best quality they have! Hey "SUPERSOUP" you labeled yourself as a Dork but to me you are Hot Hot Hot!!!! (I'm not trying to come to you. I'm married.) I'm an artist and I draw fat nerdy women all the time. I wish I had a scanner to show you all but right now I don't. I think Nerdy Women are the future of "cool." Nerdy Ladies need to be more visable!!!
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Post re: female "nerds"

I've always preferred the "geeky" women, since that describes me, too. (Hey, it'd really be nice to have a woman I could sit and watch shows like Battlestar Galactica with, instead of whatever goofy reality TV show is in vogue this season.....)

But it's kind of a pet-peeve of mine that people freely interchange the terms "dork", "geek" and "nerd".

I think they all have subtle differences. I think of "geek" as someone who is outwardly pretty "normal" by appearance and mannerisms. They may even wear some designer clothing (or not), and they likely have a social circle of friends many people would describe as "hip" and/or "cool". The "geek" part describes their interests in science, technology, computers, science-fiction films and literature, and so forth. They may have a sharp focus on these things, yet they're often conditioned to "tone it down" when out in public, so most people have no idea that's what they're into.

A "dork", to me, describes someone who isn't necessarily "technical" in nature at all. Rather, most people around them just consider them "kind of goofy/silly" and definitely "marching to the beat of their own drummer". They're likely to wear odd fashions, be into a "retro" look that isn't currently "in fashion", etc. They're proud of the fact they do things their own way, though -- and often consider the "geek" a great partner (because they "get" the whole thing of doing what you love, even if it isn't "cool").

Nerd is a little more of a "negative" term. It describes someone who lacks a little bit in "social skills". They probably dress in odd or "out of style" clothes, not because of a conscious desire to do so, but because they really don't know any better. Like the "geek", the nerd is often interested in a technical field like math or science -- but is also likely to talk about it to a crowd that doesn't want to hear about it, or have the intelligence to understand it. (Again, bringing the lack of social skills thing into play) For these reasons, nerds are always struggling to keep friends, and the few friends they have are probably also "social misfits".
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:58 PM   #3
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I've always preferred the "geeky" women, since that describes me, too. (Hey, it'd really be nice to have a woman I could sit and watch shows like Battlestar Galactica with, instead of whatever goofy reality TV show is in vogue this season.....)

But it's kind of a pet-peeve of mine that people freely interchange the terms "dork", "geek" and "nerd".

I think they all have subtle differences. I think of "geek" as someone who is outwardly pretty "normal" by appearance and mannerisms. They may even wear some designer clothing (or not), and they likely have a social circle of friends many people would describe as "hip" and/or "cool". The "geek" part describes their interests in science, technology, computers, science-fiction films and literature, and so forth. They may have a sharp focus on these things, yet they're often conditioned to "tone it down" when out in public, so most people have no idea that's what they're into.

A "dork", to me, describes someone who isn't necessarily "technical" in nature at all. Rather, most people around them just consider them "kind of goofy/silly" and definitely "marching to the beat of their own drummer". They're likely to wear odd fashions, be into a "retro" look that isn't currently "in fashion", etc. They're proud of the fact they do things their own way, though -- and often consider the "geek" a great partner (because they "get" the whole thing of doing what you love, even if it isn't "cool").

Nerd is a little more of a "negative" term. It describes someone who lacks a little bit in "social skills". They probably dress in odd or "out of style" clothes, not because of a conscious desire to do so, but because they really don't know any better. Like the "geek", the nerd is often interested in a technical field like math or science -- but is also likely to talk about it to a crowd that doesn't want to hear about it, or have the intelligence to understand it. (Again, bringing the lack of social skills thing into play) For these reasons, nerds are always struggling to keep friends, and the few friends they have are probably also "social misfits".
I don't know if its just where I grew up or what but where I come from the terms nerd and geek are inverted from your explanation. Nerds were the more socially accessible group and the term geek was applied to those of crippling lack of social skills and an extreme love of things like magic (the card game) and battlestar gallactica and what not. Now, I am not saying that either definition is correct because any ostracization of individuals who simply have different tastes or choose a different lifestyle is wrong. Every person has at least some intrinsic worth and usually can be worth getting to know. As for cute bbws/ssbbws that are nerdy, geeky, dorky, or just essentially non mainstream, EFFIN AWESOME!
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I am so sick of women trying to look like the women in the magazines! There are so many Fat Friendly Websites but I haven't found any places that emphasize the "Lady Nerd" who I think (other than Fat Hippies) are the hottest ladies around..... Nerdy Ladies need to be more visable!!!
They're just too busy to post photos online; DMs are in high demand!
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:10 PM   #5
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Scott Adams is the one who said female engineers (and as I see it, lady nerds by extension) are irresistibly attractive from the age of consent until 2 hours after clinical death (longer if it's cooler).

I think the attraction has to do with both numbers and society. Some women suppress the nerdiness for social acceptance (some men don't like being out-geeked, which is both daunting and insanely sexy at the same time), those that don't hide the nerdiness have the nerdy guys swooping in on them like white on a polar bear eating an ice cream cone in a snowstorm. We can detect it the same way bees smell fear.

Lady nerds often have the added advantage of having the pick of both nerdy guys and the glamor boys. One of my nerd buddies is GQ quality good looking, totally into D&D, gaming, science fiction, but dates a model-quality girl who loves him for all of it (she's a nerd-in-training (NIT)). He's also a kickboxer/martial arts nut with washboard abs, whereas most of my wolf pack has more of the Pepsi cube abs :P One of my D&D gaming friends from high school was gothy cute, had huge boobs but a tone body, and preferred to date exclusively athletic guys. Everyone has their preferences.

The quandary is that nerds who think they need nerdy mates sometimes don't want it that way when they get it. They don't want your chocolate in their peanut butter, so to speak. My wife got nerdy with me once in the last season of Star Trek Voyager, and it frightened me.

I use the following set of rules:

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5) If yes to either 4a or b, then happiness is assured.
6) If no to both 4a and 4b, walk, do not run away. Klingons don't take prisoners and enjoy drinking the blood of the vanquished.
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:12 PM   #6
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I am also a makeup geek. It's a hobby. They aren't mutually exclusive.
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Nerd, which universally means someone into dorky hobbies.

Geek, which formerly meant a circus carnie who bites the heads off of birds or small animals.

I prefer the former. Geek sounds to me too much like gleek, which is that spray of pressurized saliva that shoots out of your mouth sometimes when you yawn (not the monkey sidekick from the Superfriends).
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I've been told on more than one occasion that I'm nerdy. Usually it's been by guys.

However, I really can't say from my perspective that I am. I'm not that much into science fiction; don't like science itself, and terrible at higher math such as Algebra. I'm not an avid gamer, but I do know how to play video games, when I choose to dabble in them.

Though, I do watch a lot of cartoons. In fact, it's all I watch, and you can't get me to watch a reality show or sit com for anything. TMNT especially is my hobby. I have my own sense of style, what is comfortable to me with a no makeup all natural look, and I am not swayed by society conformists. I do my own thing.

I love to read and write, so I'm highly into literature. Mysteries are my favorite, and sometimes a little drama/romance.

My tastes in men sort of reflect myself. I want someone who'll be on the same level; someone who understands me.
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On campus back in college, I once saw a very cute BBW wearing a [very tight] green T-shirt that read "I <3 NERDS."

I've never felt so compelled to identify myself as a nerd.
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I wish I had a scanner to show you all but right now I don't. I think Nerdy Women are the future of "cool." Nerdy Ladies need to be more visable!!!

Less talking, more drawing! How can I believe that you like drawing fat nerdinas if you won't walk the walk? (And by that I mean draw the draw.)
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Nerd or geek, nerd or geek...

I'm whichever one likes Star Trek and Renn Faire and is currently digging out her lego train set to put around the Christmas tree. ...and I did dress up as a klingon, once, but I think I prefer being human.
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you know, OP, it is possible to praise geeky chicks without saying that girls who wear makeup and dress well are 'fake'.



just a little note for future reference.
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Pfft...the difference between the female dork, and the male dork...is that the female dork/geek/etc is more likely to interact socially than male geeks/dorks are. As an example...and she'd kill me if I told her this...but my girlfriend LOVES playing video games, knows more about music than 3/4s the DJs in NYS, and loves math! She wears reading glasses, reads chapter books without remorse, dabbles in html for fun.

Anyway, my point being, is that the 'lady nerd' as you so bluntly threw out there, enjoys keeping herself up, doesn't always wear glasses, doesn't have to be the female equal to a male geek. There are tons of female geeks out there, they just happen to be prettier than their male counterparts.

So keep drawing all you like...but realize that there aren't as many stereotypical geeky girls out there. And many of the girls who look that way do so by choice.

I'm probably not making any sense, but they're all lovely, they just might not happen to fit the picture you've painted for them. And they might not fit the picture they painted for themselves either...so keep that in mind as well.
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Pfft...the difference between the female dork, and the male dork...is that the female dork/geek/etc is more likely to interact socially than male geeks/dorks are. As an example...and she'd kill me if I told her this...but my girlfriend LOVES playing video games, knows more about music than 3/4s the DJs in NYS, and loves math! She wears reading glasses, reads chapter books without remorse, dabbles in html for fun.

Anyway, my point being, is that the 'lady nerd' as you so bluntly threw out there, enjoys keeping herself up, doesn't always wear glasses, doesn't have to be the female equal to a male geek. There are tons of female geeks out there, they just happen to be prettier than their male counterparts.

So keep drawing all you like...but realize that there aren't as many stereotypical geeky girls out there. And many of the girls who look that way do so by choice.

I'm probably not making any sense, but they're all lovely, they just might not happen to fit the picture you've painted for them. And they might not fit the picture they painted for themselves either...so keep that in mind as well.

Does anyone *really* believe that nerds/geeks of any gender are the basement-dwelling, mouth-breathing social rejects of yore? Seriously, sci-fi/fantasy novels are so promoted, math and science are understood as *the subjects* to master for a good education and lucrative career and technology is so normalized that such stereotyping is archaic.
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I consider myself a geek about things sci-fi related - your Star Trek, BSG, anything in the Whedonverse.

Nerdiness, for me, has academic connotations. For example, the fact that I can recite the prologue to The Canterbury Tales from memory. In Middle English.

Dorky is for when I am getting unreasonably excited about something and it comes out in a way that slightly off-kilter. Like the impulse I had to buy a red dress for New Years to match my new car, which I have waiting for for months.
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you know, OP, it is possible to praise geeky chicks without saying that girls who wear makeup and dress well are 'fake'.



just a little note for future reference.
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Nerdiness, for me, has academic connotations. For example, the fact that I can recite the prologue to The Canterbury Tales from memory. In Middle English.
And I am the nerd who desperately needs to hear this. At NYE? Please?
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And I am the nerd who desperately needs to hear this. At NYE? Please?
As you wish...
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