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Old 02-24-2015, 12:12 AM   #51
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Most of these numbers are total Bull Shit. These numbers include every voluntary immigrant who hires a coyote as a victim of human trafficking. Every teenager who runs away from a foster home is considered "at risk" of human trafficking. Every friend or relative that gives a sex worker a ride from one town to the next is considered a sex trafficker or pimp. The money involved in prostitution is grossly inflated.

The vast vast majority of prostitutes choose sex work of their own volition -- most often brought into the business by friends who are already sex workers (not by pimps at the Greyhound station). Street kids do indeed sell themselves but this is because their bodies are their only asset not because someone forced them.

I've been involve with the criminal justice system for over 10 years. My wife has been CPS in a large Southern California county for over 15. My daughter is CPS for a Bay Area county. I know what's going on. What I really love is how different press releases are from the actual police reports

unfortunately i don't believe you. you have said a lot of things that are totally out of line with what all of the people I know in the legal profession and criminal justice profession believe. and you have said a lot of things that don't jive over the years. last time you pontificated about fat attorney's not being able to be partner in large firms when most attorneys aren't even corporate to begin with.

I work in the same building with DCFS and the sheriff's office here. a lot of them are close friends of mine. they would totally disagree with you too.

how long have you been talking about going to law school now? since I've been at dims. about 14 yrs now.
i seriously doubt anyone with a family, lots of children and law school would have this much time to be posting on dims. i know my IRL friends doing the same wouldn't. you also claimed your wife was a fat and struggling wannabe corporate accountant and that you and she had small children while you are going to law school. and now she has been a CPS vet for 15 years and you have a grown professional child. which is it ?

there is no veracity in your statements. either that or your info is extremely old and out of date.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:12 AM   #52
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unfortunately i don't believe you. you have said a lot of things that are totally out of line with what all of the people I know in the legal profession and criminal justice profession believe. and you have said a lot of things that don't jive over the years. last time you pontificated about fat attorney's not being able to be partner in large firms when most attorneys aren't even corporate to begin with.

I work in the same building with DCFS and the sheriff's office here. a lot of them are close friends of mine. they would totally disagree with you too.

how long have you been talking about going to law school now? since I've been at dims. about 14 yrs now.
i seriously doubt anyone with a family, lots of children and law school would have this much time to be posting on dims. i know my IRL friends doing the same wouldn't. you also claimed your wife was a fat and struggling wannabe corporate accountant and that you and she had small children while you are going to law school. and now she has been a CPS vet for 15 years and you have a grown professional child. which is it ?

there is no veracity in your statements. either that or your info is extremely old and out of date.

there is also something wrong with this post as well... you can have a difference of opinions and not agree on things- that is life.

However, it is extremely "low class " to start bringing up someone's personal life...

This "soap box" needs to go to Hyde Park
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... you also claimed your wife was a fat and struggling wannabe corporate accountant and that you and she had small children while you are going to law school. and now she has been a CPS vet for 15 years and you have a grown professional child. which is it ?

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All of the above -- you've mixed up the lives of three different people.
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I work in the same building with DCFS and the sheriff's office here. a lot of them are close friends of mine. they would totally disagree with you too.

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I'm sure they do -- cops are notorious for being ill-informed.

Peace officer training involves a scary level of myth indoctrination. Peace officers are taught multiple falsehoods regarding many hot-button issues. The dangers posed by gangs, drugs, sex offenders, and sex traffickers are universally exaggerated.
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i'm not the only one who has noticed and I haven't mixed anything up. it's in your own posts right here on this forum.
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there is also something wrong with this post as well... you can have a difference of opinions and not agree on things- that is life.

However, it is extremely "low class " to start bringing up someone's personal life...

This "soap box" needs to go to Hyde Park

hey i'm just responding to the personal life he brought up as a reason he gave for his point being valid and it's veracity. don't start none won't be none.

re: where the thread needs to go as far as I know you aren't a mod.
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hey i'm just responding to the personal life he brought up as a reason he gave for his point being valid and it's veracity. don't start none won't be none.

re: where the thread needs to go as far as I know you aren't a mod.
You're no expert ... So take the soapbox somewhere else...
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You're no expert ... So take the soapbox somewhere else...
i'm keeping it right here. don't like it don't look.
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i'm not the only one who has noticed and I haven't mixed anything up. it's in your own posts right here on this forum.
You're losing touch with reality.
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i'm keeping it right here. don't like it don't look.
Well whether it stays or not .... Might not be your choice at the end of the day
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Well whether it stays or not .... Might not be your choice at the end of the day
I won't die. it still will have been seen.
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You're losing touch with reality.

sure. sure. it's all there.
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I won't die. it still will have been seen.
Who cares at the end of the day:
Just an opinion...nothing more .... nothing less
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Personally I can relate to the article in the first post. I know people that feel they are addicted to porn and wish they never touched it, myself included. Plus masturbating from porn always feels so empty because there is no one there afterward. Just me with my dick in my hand. I personally have chosen to give it up as well.

This also include softcore stuff like Big Cuties, it doesn't help me to spend all that time staring at pictures of women and fantasizing about what I'd like to do with them. I think it dehumanizes my own self. In my opinion a real man gets real women, and I want to be real man.

And I saw someone brought Big-cuties.com into this, let me just say that I hope you are paying for access and not bootlegging it!
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Personally I can relate to the article in the first post. I know people that feel they are addicted to porn and wish they never touched it, myself included. Plus masturbating from porn always feels so empty because there is no one there afterward. Just me with my dick in my hand. I personally have chosen to give it up as well.

This also include softcore stuff like Big Cuties, it doesn't help me to spend all that time staring at pictures of women and fantasizing about what I'd like to do with them. I think it dehumanizes my own self. In my opinion a real man gets real women, and I want to be real man.

And I saw someone brought Big-cuties.com into this, let me just say that I hope you are paying for access and not bootlegging it!
wouldn't it be great if there could actually be some glamorous or romantic movies that have a story or a romantic plot with big women that would feed the need for fat female beauty that a lot of men have. other guys get to have that and more of a choice about the kinds of things they can watch. it's tough not having much variety. other men have all of these great beauty icons that actually feed desire instead of take away from it. not only do they get their sexually attractive looks but they get to enjoy the sound of their laugh , what they say, how they think --in other words a personality. they give, young men in particular, more of a chance to practice appreciating women on more than one level and broadening how they enjoy express and experience their sexuality.
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Personally I can relate to the article in the first post. I know people that feel they are addicted to porn and wish they never touched it, myself included. Plus masturbating from porn always feels so empty because there is no one there afterward. Just me with my dick in my hand. I personally have chosen to give it up as well.

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Porn addiction is just another myth made up by the uptight anti-sex crowd. "Abusing" yourself is obviously not a substitute for real life relationships. However, its nice adjunct.

http://psychcentral.com/news/2014/02...ion/65835.html

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2014/...4311392244818/

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wouldn't it be great if there could actually be some glamorous or romantic movies that have a story or a romantic plot with big women that would feed the need for fat female beauty that a lot of men have. ... .
In other words you'd like women objectified in a more artistic way.
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Has Porn Overwhelmed Our Brains? The "NoFap" Movement Thinks So

NoFappers say their brains have been warped by porn, at the expense of real relationships.



By Carrie Weisman / AlterNet
February 26, 2015











It’s often said that porn helps drive technology. When the Super 8 projectors came out, porn flicks were among the first to be shown. VHS was able to stomp out competing systems like Betamax largely because it agreed to license pornography. And DVDs made it easier to jump to the dirtiest parts of our favorite films.
Things are continuing down that path. Now we can send dirty photos that self-destruct in 10 seconds or less. Watching people diddle themselves on webcam has turned into a billion-dollar industry. And kinky displays of anal and double anal, fisting and double fisting are just clicks away. It’s amazing how much material porn users have at their fingertips.
Of course, explorations into the perverse predate Internet pornography. Some of the more colorful can be found in the works of the Marquis de Sade. So what changes when these scenarios jump from the page to the screen?



Some may be familiar with the newest euphemism for pornography-aided masturbation: Fapping. The word first appeared around 1999, when it was used in a web comic called Sexy Losers. Over a decade later, the term popped up in a Reddit thread where users discussed the benefits of avoiding pornography and abstaining from masturbation. From there, “Fap” became “NoFap” and a movement was born. Its community now totals to nearly one million predominately male members.
According to the movement’s official website, “NoFap hosts challenges in which participants abstain from pornography or masturbation for a period of time.” It caters to those who feel excessive participation in porn has led to serious problems in their personal lives.
One of the most frequently mentioned names on the NoFap thread is Gary Wilson, a leader in the anti-porn movement. He examined the problem of porn addiction in his Ted Talk, “
.” He also runs the site yourbrainonporn.com and recently authored a Kindle e-book titled Your Brain On Porn: Internet Pornography and the Emerging Science of Addiction.
Wilson’s argument is a little dense, but bear with me: he asserts that our hunter-gatherer brains don’t know how to process the overload of pornographic material that exists online today. He links the concept of novelty with sexual selection. In the natural world, he explains, every female functions as a potential genetic opportunity. So when a man sets his eyes on a woman, his brain tells him to find her, fuck her and get her pregnant. The brain releases a surge of dopamine to help meet that goal.
The way novelty manifests itself online is through clicks. Wilson argues that porn tricks the male brain into thinking they've “hit the evolutionary jackpot.” Every click brings them to a new girl, and thus a new “opportunity.” It’s a limitless world. So men keep searching. Soon, their brains become so desensitized to normal sexual stimuli they require more shocking and novel material to maintain a normal sexual drive.
Wilson says this kind of “rewired circuitry” is similar to what is found in other addicts like drug abusers or alcoholics. “Constant novelty at a click can cause addiction,” he claims. Fortunately, he says, the effects can reverse themselves, as long as those affected agree to give up the most accessible of all vices: pornography.
Those in the NoFap community—who sometimes call themselves “fapstronauts”—argue that abstaining from pornography and masturbation allows the brain to “reboot” and return to normal functioning. They say that when a man stops indulging in those activities, he's rewarded with an increase in confidence, concentration and libido, and then he can learn the skills needed to maintain a normal, healthy relationship.
One of the most talked about issues in the NoFap community is, unsurprisingly, penis related. Many former fappers claim their addiction prevented them from achieving an erection in person; getting hard depended on their proximity to pornography. They call this “porn-induced erectile dysfunction,” or PIED. User ObjectionYourHonor writes, “The inability to have sex from fapping too much in my younger years up to now (I'm 23) has caused me to miss out on great relationships since I couldn't pull through during intimacy. I would feel like shit and then fap, which in turn made me sick. I decided to take control and make sure the next relationship I am in, I can give myself fully to that woman. I'm too young to need Viagra.”
The argument is rational. A plus B lands you at C, which translates to sexual dysfunction. But, as some fapstronauts will admit, there are gaps in the science. And some aren’t willing to overlook that fact.
Dr. David Ley, author of The Myth Of Sex Addiction, tells me, “Sexual stimulation uses the reward systems of the brain, but the anti-porn arguments are based on very simplistic and reductionistic ideas of how the brain works, how sex works, and what porn is, such as videos versus images, written erotica versus film, hardcore versus softcore, etc. There’s so much we don’t know about these things and so many subjective definitions, that all of these folks are arguing far, far ahead of the data. Because they are entering the argument with moral assumptions, they are subject to expectancy effect, and they see what they want to see, in research which is, at best, ambiguous.”



He warns, “Bad data, lack of knowledge and the intrusion of moral values is what led to people like [John] Kellogg arguing for surgeries such as clitorectomies, and use of physical restraints, to prevent masturbation. These same types of arguments led to homosexuality being a disease, and sexual women called nymphomaniacs.”
It’s safe to say that society’s shortcomings extend well beyond pornography. That’s not to say pornography doesn’t present its own set of problems. Its depictions of women leave much to be desired, and those who protest the industry on feminist grounds aren’t without reason. In some extreme cases, people have linked pockets of the industry to sex trafficking and even sexual slavery. But these discussions generally take a backseat to male-centered issues like erectile dysfunction on the NoFapping platforms. The community often frames the “porn problem” as one relating to public health. What message does it send, then, when social issues pertaining to women come second to a man’s ability to maintain an erection?
It’s also true that many NoFap splinter groups operate on moral grounds. The organization XXX Church started handing out Bibles at porn shows back in 2006. Their goal is to hand out 100,000 Bibles at Sexpos across the world. They say they've given away 75,000 Bibles so far. The website Porn Effect proclaims, “In your battle against porn, prayer and fasting are powerful weapons.”
The movement also makes it possible for individuals to pose as “experts." Twenty-something NoFap enthusiast Gabe Deem created the YouTube channel
to share his story of porn addiction. In one sporadically edited
, Deem walks viewers through the “brain science of how porn is affecting us.” To my knowledge, Deem holds no degrees in medical science.
This is not to undermine the concerns surrounding pornography. Canadian researcher Simon Lajeunesse found that most boys seek out pornographic material by the age of 10. And many worry about the link between early porn consumption and sexually aggressive behaviors. But it's important to have a degree of wariness about individuals who may try to capitalize on these concerns
Covenant Eyes encourages users to “make wiser decisions about Internet use” by listing all websites visited, search terms used and all videos watched in an Internet Accountability Report. The company hopes to reduce the “temptation to click on inappropriate and pornographic links.” Chris Haven, who started the website Quit Porn Get Girls, recently wrote the book How To Get Laid On Tinder. Jay Anthony is the author of Pornography Addiction: Destroying the Habit & Breaking The Cycle, available on Amazon.
Those in the NoFap community will suggest there is no such thing as casual porn viewing, that all porn consumption is harmful, and that society should work toward eradicating the demand for porn. Many people will agree that real-life encounters are preferable to onscreen fantasies, but is it really so bad for people to entertain the latter? And to what extent should definitions of pornography inhibit our sexual appetites? Anal sex between heterosexual couples, for example, has been practiced long before dawn of the Internet. So why is watching it so taboo? Some point to the porn industry's increasingly violent and degrading depictions of women. It's an important argument, and one that appears infrequently on the NoFap thread, where issues like reclaiming erections and getting laid seem to get much more attention.
The organization Fight the New Drug operates under the theory that “Porn kills love.” One of the co-founders explained that most people know smoking cigarettes are bad for them even before they light up. He hopes that one day people will see pornography in a similar light.
Porn addiction is a complicated topic. A lot more research needs to be conducted before we can come to any conclusion. But what we can admit is that porn addiction exists where porn addiction can exist. Maybe we should take a moment to appreciate the environment that allows us to indulge in the first place.
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Porn addiction is just another myth made up by the uptight anti-sex crowd. "Abusing" yourself is obviously not a substitute for real life relationships. However, its nice adjunct.

http://psychcentral.com/news/2014/02...ion/65835.html

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2014/...4311392244818/

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0212153252.htm

the article says there isn't enough research. but whether you call it an addiction or not anything not positively contributing to your life personally, no matter what is happening with anyone else, is an issue you'd probably want to at least examine.

BTW they are all citing the same subject by the same researcher through the very same publisher. one article does not the truth make especially when even he says there isn't enough evidence. so if you are drawing a conclusion from the evidence gathered so far then whatever conclusion you come to is a fallacy. first rule of logic is if there isn't enough evidence suspend judgment.

but when it comes to individual feeling or perceptions about what works or doesn't for one person personally all bets are off. so if some people are reporting that it helps to step back from porn and it has helped them it might be worth trying. it won't kill anybody. besides I doubt most people wont want to wait around for 25 years for decent research results before they try something that makes their lives more satisfying.
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In other words you'd like women objectified in a more artistic way.
a less hateful way would be okay. since as you often say they're probably going to be objectified anyway
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this is an interesting article as well. I don't know if this fits into the equation for performance anxiety but it might.

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COLUMBIA, Mo. – Many studies have shown that media images of female models have had a negative impact on how women view their own bodies, but does this same effect hold true when men view male models? A leading researcher of media effects on body image at the University of Missouri looked at the effect of male magazines on college-age men. Completing three different studies, Jennifer Aubrey, assistant professor of communication in the College of Arts and Science, found that unlike their female classmates, it was not the same-sex models that affected the males negatively, but quite the opposite.
In her research, which will be published in Human Communication Research, Aubrey found that the cultural expectation for men is not that they have to be as attractive as their peers, but that they need to be attractive enough to be sexually appealing to women.

In her first study, Aubrey measured male exposure to ‘lad’ magazines, such as Maxim, FHM and Stuff, which she observes contain two main messages: the visual, which mostly contain sexually suggestive images of women; and textual, which contain articles that speak in a bawdy, male voice about topics including fashion, sex, technology and pop culture. Aubrey also measured male body self-consciousness (a participant’s awareness and tendency to monitor one’s appearance) and appearance anxiety (the anticipation of threatening stimuli). Participants were asked questions such as “During the day, I think about how I look,” and then asked the same questions a year later.

“We found that reading lad magazines was related to having body self-consciousness a year later,” said Aubrey. “This was surprising because if you look at the cover of these magazines, they are mainly images of women. We wondered why magazines that were dominated by sexual images of women were having an effect of men’s feelings about their own bodies.”

To help answer this question, Aubrey collaborated with University of California-Davis Assistant Professor Laramie Taylor. The researchers divided male study participants into three groups. Group one examined layouts from lad magazines that featured objectified women along with a brief description of their appearances. The second group viewed layouts about male fashion, featuring fit and well-dressed male models. The final group inspected appearance-neutral layouts that featured topics including technology and film trivia.

“Men who viewed the layouts of objectified females reported more body self-consciousness than the other two groups,” Aubrey said. “Even more surprising was that the male fashion group reported the least amount of body self-consciousness among the three groups.”
Aubrey speculated that the exposure to objectified females increased self-consciousness because men are reminded that in order to be sexually or romantically involved with a woman of similar attractiveness, they need to conform to strict appearance standards.

To test her theory, Aubrey and Taylor completed a third study that involved breaking men into two groups. Group one received lad magazine layouts of sexually idealized females and group two received the same layouts with average-looking ‘boyfriends’ added to the photos, with captions about how the female models are attracted to the average-looking men.

“We found that the men who view the ads with the average-looking boyfriend in the picture reported less body self-consciousness than the men who saw the ads with just the model,” Aubrey said. “When the men felt that the model in the ad liked average-looking guys, it took the pressure off of them and made them less self-conscious about their own bodies.”
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We get it -- if you don't stop you'll go blind. These anti-porn//anti-masturbation people are just the latest incarnation in a long line of anti-sex crusaders.
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We get it -- if you don't stop you'll go blind. These anti-porn//anti-masturbation people are just the latest incarnation in a long line of anti-sex crusaders.
nobody said you had to stop. keep wanking.

lol hard @ anti sex. why is this attempt to have a discussion bothering you so hard? is it hitting some kind of a nerve ? if it is it might help you more to relax and think rather than just react.

you're acting as though people are saying all sex is horrible and we should send policemen to arrest guys who fap in their own private space. get a grip please.

nobody was even talking about masturbation. it doesn't even require porn good or bad anyway.

people already practice all kinds of sexual restraint to increase their pleasure anyway like edging and tantric sex etc... considering this isn't any different.

i'm also absolutely positive that a lot of guys would not have an issue at all with getting off without putting anybody down either knowingly or unknowingly. so if we could talk about it honestly with them and help them to have more conscious choices instead of sheltering them like they are mentally challenged monsters it would improve things for everybody. I think our culture thinks too little of men in general.
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*taps you on the shoulder* um the gas has gone out in your gaslight
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