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Old 02-16-2016, 01:01 PM   #26
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Well sexualizing things that make someone more suitable for breeding and raising young is why guys like boobs and wide hips.

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But wouldn't it in this scenario refer to the guys guys reaction to the women?
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But wouldn't it in this scenario refer to the guys guys reaction to the women?
Well, I still think a core similarity is applicable. But, yes it is not exactly the same. Also sexual pleasure can be derived from an almost vicarious enjoyment of the pleasure you give. So having attributes or behaviors that are gratify a partner is fulfilling on both sides. This is part of why I can deeply enjoy being the object of a fetish I don't independently share.
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Well, I still think a core similarity is applicable. But, yes it is not exactly the same. Also sexual pleasure can be derived from an almost vicarious enjoyment of the pleasure you give. So having attributes or behaviors that are gratify a partner is fulfilling on both sides.
That's true, but there is a separation between sexual and not sexual. Even if those areas are sexual. There's a part of the brain that's in charge of that. But wouldn't the vicarious pleasure then be not actually about the breastfeeding but the emotions?
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This conversation is getting pretty deep and the end result is just gonna be that you guys are gonna find out you are attracted to your mom's titties.
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This conversation is getting pretty deep and the end result is just gonna be that you guys are gonna find out you are attracted to your mom's titties.
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Old 02-16-2016, 03:37 PM   #31
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I think that people being the complicated bundle of drives, hormones, experiences, influences, and semi-random things that made an impact upon us, it will always be hard to show a blanket A --> B for what motivates us. 'Rule of thumb', maybe, or 'this could be a cause,' etc.

That said, a lot of things that help prove our fitness and competence have become part of sexuality, secondary sexual characteristics if you will. I saw one study which purported to show that creativity in males (measured as major works of art and scientific discoveries) followed testosterone levels (that is, there were more in the highest testosterone years) -- suggesting that even creativity can be a sexual display. Which kind of makes sense, it shows the capacity for risk taking (which implies you can survive the consequences of taking risks), the time to think beyond survival, as well as mental cleverness.

Looking at it similarly, nurturing others beyond your own offspring shows you have the energy, ability, and resources to more than take care of yourself and any children you have (and implicitly that you can take care of your mate and additional children, so would be a good breeding partner). So perhaps nurturing of others could be thought of as female sexual display in some cases?

Yes, I'm basing that on nothing but pure conjecture and extrapolation of some study that I read something about some years ago, so feel free to ignore my thoughts on this one.
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Also I think a lot of this develops during very early childhood and infancy. The thing is that we start forming associations and behavioral expectations (attachment style and so on) before our brains are capable of fully processing what we experience. So maybe the things that would directly be associated in an adult brain might have more nebulous and varying associations in an infant or very young child. Almost every FFA reports the preference showing up at like 10 or younger so these preferences could easily set in very early and may not necessarily follow fully logical paths.

Also, bewbies.
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I also don't know that blurred line is accurate. There isn't necessarily a line at all, but rather a sliding scale (like those ones they used to use in math).

You can be one, or both, or any mixure of either PLUS have daddy or pain tendencies.
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I also don't know that blurred line is accurate. There isn't necessarily a line at all, but rather a sliding scale (like those ones they used to use in math).

You can be one, or both, or any mixure of either PLUS have daddy or pain tendencies.
I guess I've always thought of them as separate.
Oreven like the Kinsely scale?
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[QUOTE=dwesterny;2168132]Almost every FFA reports the preference showing up at like 10 or younger [\QUOTE]
For the record I for one actually don't follow that type, I don't like dating younger. Lol
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I guess I've always thought of them as separate.
Oreven like the Kinsely scale?
Like an Abacus.

I envision each line of beads to be a single "stream" of preference, with 'extremes' at both ends of each row.

A lot of girls have this saviour complex; they love damaged goods. They find the idea of saving a guy hot.

On another line, they could have a mild feeder tendancy (ie always tend to have food around, like watching a guy eat).

On another line, they identify strongly as an F/FA

On another line, they really like S&M stuff.

Edit: As opposed to a line you "cross"
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My recently ex-girlfriend is a feeder and she told me she knew she was into fat guys from when she was just a little girl and used to fall in love with john candy, chris farley, etc.


I think some people are just born that way.
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My recently ex-girlfriend is a feeder and she told me she knew she was into fat guys from when she was just a little girl and used to fall in love with john candy, chris farley, etc.


I think some people are just born that way.
Almost every FFA I know was into fat early. Winnie the pooh has been described by more than one as disturbingly arousing. Xy wrote a kind of blubber porn story at 10 or so. I'm not sure it has to be at birth though, a lot of our preferences are determined during infancy and todlerhood, but it could be innate.
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Almost every FFA I know was into fat early. Winnie the pooh has been described by more than one as disturbingly arousing. Xy wrote a kind of blubber porn story at 10 or so. I'm not sure it has to be at birth though, a lot of our preferences are determined during infancy and todlerhood, but it could be innate.
Yah, I think when when it is "as far back as I can remember" we often way "I was born that way" when it could be that things clicked together that way when we were really young. As to why it clicks together that way? If you have spent any time with toddlers you'll know that cause and effect or any kind of logic don't have a lot to do with how their brains function, so I don't think there needs to be some obvious reason.
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Almost every FFA I know was into fat early. Winnie the pooh has been described by more than one as disturbingly arousing. .
Definitely! Winnie the Pooh is the sex-god for all pre-school FFAs!

(And they are aware they are FFAs, only don't know what it means yet. The other pre-schoolers like Barbie.)
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I had very mixed feelings about Pooh. To be so blissfully gluttonous sounded fantastic, but being so very dull sounded rather horrible. It probably biased me against fat to some degree for quite some time.

I wonder if young FFA ever had such concerns about the bear of little brain?
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Quoting oneself is the most vain and stupid thing one can do - nevertheless I am doing as much.

Simply because I've already written exactly this discussion from an FFAs perspective in 'Available in All Sizes' between Philip & Antonia:

“Absolutely…” Philip whispered hoarsely, letting something drop he had clenched in his fist.

“What’s that ….oh sorry, Heather’s boys, Henri and Pierre arranged the Christmas cookies we baked last weekend on these Winnie-the-Pooh napkins… I didn’t have time to clear everything away …”

“I hate Winnie-the-Pooh…..”

“Pardon? How can anybody hate Winnie-the-Pooh?” Antonia sat up in dismay.

“He’s fat, greedy and …. stupid, really stupid…,”

“What? Winnie-the-Pooh isn’t stupid – he’s just a bear with very little brains! But he has a lot emotional intelligence since he sees and knows his own faults, even though he isn’t able to follow his own insights time and again … Come to think of it, Winnie-the-Pooh with academic smarts would be literally un-bear-ably perfect!” Antonia was intrigued by the idea. “Imagine – he’s cute, cuddly, loving, and loyal, a good friend, compassionate, curios … a high IQ would be almost too much. What’s your issue with poor Winnie-the-Pooh?” she nuzzled his cheek.

“… my nanny was told to read me only the one chapter where Pooh gets stuck in Rabbit’s hole because he ate too much and was too fat to get back out…” Philip muttered under his breath, stiffening in Antonia’s arms; who was appalled.

“But that’s awful, how cruel!” the words slipped before she could hold them back. “I always hated that chapter, too. When I was older, could read the book myself, that’s the one I skipped. I was especially mad at Rabbit and his stupid relations!”

“You were mad at Rabbit’s relations?”

“Yes … those stupid rabbits, digging holes all over the place … couldn’t they have dug Rabbit’s front hole a bit bigger to help Pooh out and then fill it up again? That would have spared poor Pooh a diet and the humiliation of having his sexy hind paws being used as a towel rack!”

Philip laughed out loud and with a surprising move flipped Antonia down into his lap raising his eyebrows in mock questioning: “So … you’ve always had the impetus to try to rescue poor teddy bears in distress?”

“Ummm … I guess I have…”


This was my attempt at capturing how I think many FFAs see Winnie-the-Pooh as part of their formative experiences.
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Oddly enough Pooh didn't trigger my FFA at all. Templeton the rat did, though.

Pooh was so asexual to me I don't even think I thought of him as a him until I was grown!

But i think that its possibly to be feedery and fetishy in your mind and never act on it. Templeton could be 'hot', a fictional BHM could be hot doing it, but to be honest a lot of those behaviours would be intolerable in my day to day life. And the idea of hurting, in any way, someone i love is more painful than any temp satisfaction.

But i still can get my mental kicks and giggles.
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Oddly enough Pooh didn't trigger my FFA at all. Templeton the rat did, though.

Pooh was so asexual to me I don't even think I thought of him as a him until I was grown!

But i think that its possibly to be feedery and fetishy in your mind and never act on it. Templeton could be 'hot', a fictional BHM could be hot doing it, but to be honest a lot of those behaviours would be intolerable in my day to day life. And the idea of hurting, in any way, someone i love is more painful than any temp satisfaction.

But i still can get my mental kicks and giggles.
I'm in exactly the same boat in regards to Pooh and Templeton. I totally forgot about Templeton.
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I'm in exactly the same boat in regards to Pooh and Templeton. I totally forgot about Templeton.

Rewatch that scene. Beings back all the feels.
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Oddly enough Pooh didn't trigger my FFA at all. Templeton the rat did, though.

Pooh was so asexual to me I don't even think I thought of him as a him until I was grown!

But i think that its possibly to be feedery and fetishy in your mind and never act on it. Templeton could be 'hot', a fictional BHM could be hot doing it, but to be honest a lot of those behaviours would be intolerable in my day to day life. And the idea of hurting, in any way, someone i love is more painful than any temp satisfaction.

But i still can get my mental kicks and giggles.
Templeton fascinated me too. But 'Charlotte's Web' is one of my absolute favorite childhood books anyway. I also liked that Wilbur as protagonist wasn't intended as a slimness advertisement.

I feel similiarly about the practical side too - there is a big difference to fictional fantasy, because that has no real life consequences.

As much as I like cooking & baking, there has always been a mental barrier to using those skills actively for potentially harmful feeder fantasies. Two close friends/family have serious issues with compulsive overeating - and I can see their struggle.
So for birthdays, reunions etc. I will make a big dinner - but always let variety, quality and basic health considerations overrule any quantity or stuffing aspects.
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I use to watch Charlotte's Web just for that scene. Time for all the feels.
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I wonder if young FFA ever had such concerns about the bear of little brain?
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Originally Posted by agouderia View Post
“What? Winnie-the-Pooh isn’t stupid – he’s just a bear with very little brains! But he has a lot emotional intelligence...
I don't think he's particularly lacking in inventive smarts either. Wasn't he the one who when they were trapped in Owl's collapsed house suggested they rig a pulley system to get Piglet up to the window so he could go for help?

Pooh's just too modest for his own good.
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