"Tempting Faith" by David Kuo - Page 3

Wayne_Zitkus · 10-22-2006, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HappyFatChick

Then you and your people do it your way, and I and my people will do it our way.

What exactly do you mean by "your people"? Christians? Republicans? Or people who have no tolerance for those who think or believe what they don't?

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Originally Posted by HappyFatChick

We do what works. And we never expect government entitlements for anything. Ever.

The rich live off governmentr entitlements called "corporate welfare" Companies like Halliburton (and the vermin like Dick Cheney who run those corporations) are swimming in corporate welfare, all at our expense.

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Originally Posted by HappyFatChick

Being rich is totally about attitude. I've never seen a truly successful person with a bad attitude. (And I don't count financially rich rappers.)

I have. I've worked for quite a few over the years.

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Originally Posted by HappyFatChick

"Advantages, connections, and good luck" have NOTHING to do with being rich. (Mentally,emotionally,financially, or spiritually.) It is TOTALLY about attitude, self-talk, expectations, enthusiasm, ambition, a good plan, and often a good relationship with God.

Bullshit. Do you REALLY think Steve Forbes would be rich today if he hadn't had the good fortune of being Malcolm Forbes' son?

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Originally Posted by HappyFatChick

I never said this was about money.

Misunderstand/distort my posts much?

You seem to have a problem with money going to people of whom you disapprove, such as illegal immigrants.

CurvaceousBBWLover · 10-22-2006, 07:21 PM

Wow, here's even more hyperbole, more poppycock, and more balderdash. Allow me to retort.

Being rich is something that is due to connections, connections, connections. It's not about attitude. It's not about intelligence. I know a lot of intelligent people and a lot of decent people who should be making more than $100,000.00. But this capitalist system does not reward people based on how decent they are, how hard-working they are or how well they treat people. What matters is whom you know. When you have those connections, you have access to money and power that other people just don't have.

What is this about "you and your people?" Please don't tell me you are trying to make another culturally biased statement. Or is it remotely possible that you are attempting to paraphrase Joshua who was describing how his family would serve the Lord?

The smug attitude you take towards what Jesus would call "the least of these" causes me to question how truly committed you are to Jesus' teachings. You seem to dislike anyone who is not rich and white. You have a right to do that, but be advised as Galatians 4 will tell you that Jesus does not recognize the artificial divisions of race, gender, religion and culture that humans do.

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Originally Posted by HappyFatChick

Then you and your people do it your way, and I and my people will do it our way. We do what works. And we never expect government entitlements for anything. Ever. Being rich is totally about attitude. I've never seen a truly successful person with a bad attitude. (And I don't count financially rich rappers.)

"Advantages, connections, and good luck" have NOTHING to do with being rich. (Mentally,emotionally,financially, or spiritually.) It is TOTALLY about attitude, self-talk, expectations, enthusiasm, ambition, a good plan, and often a good relationship with God.

I never said this was about money.

Misunderstand/distort my posts much?

Paul Fannin · 10-22-2006, 11:07 PM

A person making $100,000 a year isn't rich. I guarantee you one thing: most people who do make $100,000 a year earn every penny of it and for some politician to brand someone like that as being rich so he can target him to take all he can get from him is immoral.

Life is not a lottery. Americans of all shapes, sizes, colors, beliefs, and intellectual capacities earn what they make, and deserve to keep it.

When you need to find a job, who do you go to?

Thank heaven for rich men!!

Oh, and liberals like money too.

Paul Fannin · 10-22-2006, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vickie

Seems to me I recall that Jesus Himself wasn't too keen on the rich, either

He was fond of Joseph of Arimathea. He blessed Job of the Old Testament. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and they were very rich. He blessed King Solomon with incomprehensible wealth, because the young king sought wisdom.

The Lord Jesus Christ loves all men regardless of their wealth. Don't you think that he blesses men to great wealth so that those men can, in turn, help their fellow man?

Average Americans whose names will never be known do and have done more for their fellow man than even Mother Teresa and Ghandi combined.

Paul Fannin · 10-22-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Burtimus

What I can't handle, Paul, are people too lazy to do the required reading.

Some people don't get the New York Times, the Washington Post, Rolling Stone, or Mother Jones.

Paul Fannin · 10-23-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSadeianLinguist

Oooh, oooh, ooh! Pick me! Pick me! Pick me!

How about instead of outsourcing jobs to foreign countries to eight year olds working their fingers bloody for twelve cents an hour, we actually give some jobs to AMERICANS, reward corporations for fair trade and using American workers, and charge higher tariffs on imported goods. That's some of them gol-danged liberal solutions.

As for "defeating terrorism," let's actually go after and punish those who attacked us, not those who we thought might possibly potentially do naughty things.

Put your hand down. The latest unemployment figures are at about 4.8%. According to economists, that constitutes virtual employment. Most jobs "outsourced" are due to our advancing technology.

You remember that rousing defeat of the Taliban in Afghanistan? It was smashing. It was in all the papers. Oh and Iraq? Our military routed the forces of Saddam Hussein; CNN might not have reported it, but it happened. Yes, nation building is a little harder. It would help if more Americans like you supported their President. But at least this President doesn't moisten his finger, stick it in the wind, and call focus groups.

TheSadeianLinguist · 10-23-2006, 12:35 AM

The unemployment figures are 5.8% in TN and are almost 13% in my county. There are no economic opportunities here; most factories that were here have moved overseas. Lots of towns here are that way.

Oh, and remember how a lot of those guys in the Taliban were from... Saudi Arabia? And how their funding came from... Saudi Arabia. And what've we done to... Saudi Arabia? Dick.

I don't support a president who doesn't support me. He's made it clear he has a disdain for the queer people in this country. He also does not intend to punish people who attacked MY COUNTRY. He's approving the outsourcing of jobs and poor areas like the ones I live in are screwed.

Wayne_Zitkus · 10-23-2006, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSadeianLinguist

The unemployment figures are 5.8% in TN and are almost 13% in my county. There are no economic opportunities here; most factories that were here have moved overseas. Lots of towns here are that way.

Oh, and remember how a lot of those guys in the Taliban were from... Saudi Arabia? And how their funding came from... Saudi Arabia. And what've we done to... Saudi Arabia? Dick.

I don't support a president who doesn't support me. He's made it clear he has a disdain for the queer people in this country. He also does not intend to punish people who attacked MY COUNTRY. He's approving the outsourcing of jobs and poor areas like the ones I live in are screwed.

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TheSadeianLinguist again.

Could someone please rep her for me? Thanks.

Paul Fannin · 10-23-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSadeianLinguist

Oh, and remember how a lot of those guys in the Taliban were from... Saudi Arabia? And how their funding came from... Saudi Arabia. And what've we done to... Saudi Arabia? Dick.

So you advocate an all-out attack against Saudi Arabia?

Burtimus · 10-23-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Fannin

Some people don't get the New York Times, the Washington Post, Rolling Stone, or Mother Jones.

You are correct. I am one of them who do not. The required reading, Paul, is to educate yourself about a subject upon which you know little before trouncing your opinion about as if it meant something. Case in point: the Iraq war. Every single piece of evidence points to no one in the Bush White House, State Department or Department of Defense who had a say in the war plan having done the required reading.

Thomas Ricks, in his book Fiasco, clearly illustrates that the administration's strategy for the prosecution of the war ended with the overthrow of Saddam. Beyond that, no plans existed then or now for reconstruction, development of a democratic government or even basic security. The Grand Strategy seems to have been, and I quote, "Stay the Course", meaning, "Keep standing there until someone shoots at you, boys. We're all behind you -- about 2130 miles behind you!"

Paul Fannin · 10-23-2006, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Burtimus

You are correct. I am one of them who do not.

And I don't get memos from the RNC and I listen to Rush about an hour a week. So give it a rest.

Just because some Bush hater writes something and gets it published doesn't make it so.

Burtimus · 10-23-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Fannin

And I don't get memos from the RNC and I listen to Rush about an hour a week. So give it a rest.

One hour of lies and poison is one hour too many, Paul.

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Originally Posted by Paul Fannin

Just because some Bush hater writes something and gets it published doesn't make it so.

No, but given that the author was an early Bush supporter and was later disillusioned by the tack taken by his favored administration makes it just a tad more plausible, though, wouldn't you say?

Might want to get the facts before bloviating. That's all I'm saying about the required reading.

HappyFatChick · 10-24-2006, 09:29 PM

Most of the "rich" people I know did not have/use connections to get where they are. If you wait for connections you will be sorely disappointed. You make yourself rich. You take personal responsibility. The "connections" is an excuse/recipe to fail. You count on no one but yourself. Be self-made. It is much more rewarding.

And by "you and your people" I mean you and your supporters.

I don't consider the NYSlimes anything but catbox lining. They are treasonists, traitors, liars, and pathetic excuses for reporters. They should be in Club Gitmo for aiding terrorists.

Burtimus · 10-24-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyFatChick

Most of the "rich" people I know did not have/use connections to get where they are. If you wait for connections you will be sorely disappointed. You make yourself rich. You take personal responsibility. The "connections" is an excuse/recipe to fail. You count on no one but yourself. Be self-made. It is much more rewarding.

Yes. That's true. I'm going to be rich, just after faeries and hobgoblins fly out my ass. And my positive mental attitude will make me live forever, be forever young and be able to influence international politics with my mind. And a popsicle.

What a load of crap.

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Originally Posted by HappyFatChick

I don't consider the NYSlimes anything but catbox lining. They are treasonists, traitors, liars, and pathetic excuses for reporters. They should be in Club Gitmo for aiding terrorists.

Christian love and charity at its finest. Well done, HFC. Jesus would be proud of your love.

CurvaceousBBWLover · 10-24-2006, 10:38 PM

Well, if you choose to not see your advantages in life, that is your right. America is an unequal society. Some will rise to the top through hard work but not many. The majority come from old money and the game is rigged against most people who are foolhardy enough to think they can rise above their station in life. To the reading public I say, "Welcome to the ownership society that Bush and Co. are creating. Soon our nation will devolve to developing country status because our social classes are becoming more stratfied by the day."

You think so abominably about the New York Times reporters. I think they are excellent reporters but you just don't want to hear the truth that they are reporting.

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Originally Posted by HappyFatChick

Most of the "rich" people I know did not have/use connections to get where they are. If you wait for connections you will be sorely disappointed. You make yourself rich. You take personal responsibility. The "connections" is an excuse/recipe to fail. You count on no one but yourself. Be self-made. It is much more rewarding.

And by "you and your people" I mean you and your supporters.

I don't consider the NYSlimes anything but catbox lining. They are treasonists, traitors, liars, and pathetic excuses for reporters. They should be in Club Gitmo for aiding terrorists.

GenericGeek · 10-25-2006, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Burtimus

Christian love and charity at its finest. Well done, HFC. Jesus would be proud of your love.

And Satan is very happy with the fine job of disinformazia that kind of tone accomplishes, when it comes out of the mouths of "Christians". Of that I'm sure.

WWJP? (What would Jesus post?)

Ryan · 10-25-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSadeianLinguist

How about instead of outsourcing jobs to foreign countries to eight year olds working their fingers bloody for twelve cents an hour, we actually give some jobs to AMERICANS, reward corporations for fair trade and using American workers, and charge higher tariffs on imported goods. That's some of them gol-danged liberal solutions.

Protecting Americans from foreign competition includes the competition that is immigrating to this country (both legally and illegally). I really don't like the liberal "solution" to illegal immigration, which seems to be amnesty.

HappyFatChick · 10-26-2006, 07:56 AM

You are what you think you are. You become what you focus on. Give me an "ordinary" man/woman and I can probably make him/her "successful". It's not that hard. It's a choice. It takes a plan. And a lot of prayer. (Unless one is just interested in "worldly" success which is empty.)

Doubters get exactly what they expect. Excuses and a victim mentality keep people down.

The NYSlimes is a proven abomination of falsified news stories/reports, disgraced reporters, and photoshopped "news pictures." Their circulation is in the dumpster. Their ad revenue is down. They are a disgrace.

To the reading public may I suggest books/audio/publications by Tony Robbins, Donald Trump, Brian Buffini, Joyce Meyer, and the Bible. There are also books about self-talk by Shad Helmstetter. (Probably available from your library.)

I say go for the glory and don't settle for mediocrity. Not ever.

CurvaceousBBWLover · 10-26-2006, 07:27 PM

In a capitalist society like ours, there is no guarantee that anyone or everyone can get rich.

The New York Times is an outstanding newspaper. You need to get over your hatred and accept that fact.

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Originally Posted by HappyFatChick

You are what you think you are. You become what you focus on. Give me an "ordinary" man/woman and I can probably make him/her "successful". It's not that hard. It's a choice. It takes a plan. And a lot of prayer. (Unless one is just interested in "worldly" success which is empty.)

Doubters get exactly what they expect. Excuses and a victim mentality keep people down.

The NYSlimes is a proven abomination of falsified news stories/reports, disgraced reporters, and photoshopped "news pictures." Their circulation is in the dumpster. Their ad revenue is down. They are a disgrace.

To the reading public may I suggest books/audio/publications by Tony Robbins, Donald Trump, Brian Buffini, Joyce Meyer, and the Bible. There are also books about self-talk by Shad Helmstetter. (Probably available from your library.)

I say go for the glory and don't settle for mediocrity. Not ever.

HappyFatChick · 10-26-2006, 08:08 PM

The New York Slimes is an outstanding paper if you like treasonist reporters, traitors, libel, slander, falsified stories and pictures. They should be ashamed of themselves and apologize to the American public for their fraud and incompetence. Then they should shut down and cease to exist.

Take your pick. They have some doozies. The New York Slimes: proudly serving jihadists for 17 years. Their motto: “If it ain’t secret, it ain’t news!”

http://www.texasrainmaker.com/2006/0...imes-traitors/

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/25/D8IFB4VO1.html

http://www.texasrainmaker.com/2006/0...2940499882865/

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa..._staff_member/

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/200...DESHOW_21.html

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/23/D8IDMQ180.html

CurvaceousBBWLover · 10-26-2006, 08:17 PM

And once again, you amuse the board with your mediocrity, your axe. You propose shutting down the NY Times. I have a counterproposal: Why don't we shut down Fox News? After all, their coverage is unfair and nowhere near balanced.

The First Amendment protects free speech, so the NY Times must remain open and Fox News must remain open. The Consitution does not require that protected speech be universally liked.

I don't think you know what treason is. Treason is waging war against the United States. The Constitution does not define treason as having an unorthodox point of view and disseminating that point of view among the population. That type of thing is protected by the First Amendment.

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Originally Posted by HappyFatChick

The New York Slimes is an outstanding paper if you like treasonist reporters, traitors, libel, slander, falsified stories and pictures. They should be ashamed of themselves and apologize to the American public for their fraud and incompetence. Then they should shut down and cease to exist.

Take your pick. They have some doozies. The New York Slimes: proudly serving jihadists for 17 years. Their motto: “If it ain’t secret, it ain’t news!”

http://www.texasrainmaker.com/2006/0...imes-traitors/

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/25/D8IFB4VO1.html

http://www.texasrainmaker.com/2006/0...2940499882865/

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa..._staff_member/

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/200...DESHOW_21.html

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/23/D8IDMQ180.html

HappyFatChick · 10-26-2006, 08:24 PM

And once again you cease to amaze me with your support for such a terror-supporting organization. Fox news isn't airing national classified information that supports terrorists. They aren't creating pictures to give the wrong impression about a situation.

Truce?

You go ahead and support the New York Slimes and I will support my country and president.

CurvaceousBBWLover · 10-26-2006, 08:27 PM

You are more than welcome to support Fox News, President Bush, and cultural myopia regarding the nature of a free press. I will support free society, I will support the NY Times (because I am a former journalist) and I will support reform to protect freedom.

Have a great evening.

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Originally Posted by HappyFatChick

And once again you cease to amaze me with your support for such a terror-supporting organization. Fox news isn't airing national classified information that supports terrorists. They aren't creating pictures to give the wrong impression about a situation.

Truce?

You go ahead and support the New York Slimes and I will support my country and president.

Ryan · 10-26-2006, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CurvaceousBBWLover

I will support free society, I will support the NY Times (because I am a former journalist) and I will support reform to protect freedom.

Aren't you the guy who said, "The foolish actions of one gun owner are enough to guarantee regulating all guns. One death by a gun is one death too many. I'm sorry, my friend, but you will have to be inconvenienced in order to protect the community. That's what law and order is all about: one man giving up what is fun or convenient for the good of society."? Yes, I think you are. That doesn't exactly sound like a resounding endorsement of freedom to me.

Wayne_Zitkus · 10-28-2006, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CurvaceousBBWLover

You are more than welcome to support Fox News, President Bush, and cultural myopia regarding the nature of a free press. I will support free society, I will support the NY Times (because I am a former journalist) and I will support reform to protect freedom.

Have a great evening.

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CurvaceousBBWLover again.

If I could rep you right now, I would.

10-23-2006, 12:35 AM	#57
TheSadeianLinguist Coin-Operated Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Planet of the Mad Robots Posts: 7,643	The unemployment figures are 5.8% in TN and are almost 13% in my county. There are no economic opportunities here; most factories that were here have moved overseas. Lots of towns here are that way. Oh, and remember how a lot of those guys in the Taliban were from... Saudi Arabia? And how their funding came from... Saudi Arabia. And what've we done to... Saudi Arabia? Dick. I don't support a president who doesn't support me. He's made it clear he has a disdain for the queer people in this country. He also does not intend to punish people who attacked MY COUNTRY. He's approving the outsourcing of jobs and poor areas like the ones I live in are screwed. __________________ The Queen Bee on the Outsider: She didn't have the right brand of lip gloss. SHE HAD TO BE DESTROYED.

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10-22-2006, 11:07 PM	#53
Paul Fannin Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gustine, CA Posts: 983	A person making $100,000 a year isn't rich. I guarantee you one thing: most people who do make $100,000 a year earn every penny of it and for some politician to brand someone like that as being rich so he can target him to take all he can get from him is immoral. Life is not a lottery. Americans of all shapes, sizes, colors, beliefs, and intellectual capacities earn what they make, and deserve to keep it. When you need to find a job, who do you go to? Thank heaven for rich men!! Oh, and liberals like money too.

10-24-2006, 09:29 PM	#63
HappyFatChick On Timeout Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,589	Most of the "rich" people I know did not have/use connections to get where they are. If you wait for connections you will be sorely disappointed. You make yourself rich. You take personal responsibility. The "connections" is an excuse/recipe to fail. You count on no one but yourself. Be self-made. It is much more rewarding. And by "you and your people" I mean you and your supporters. I don't consider the NYSlimes anything but catbox lining. They are treasonists, traitors, liars, and pathetic excuses for reporters. They should be in Club Gitmo for aiding terrorists.

10-26-2006, 07:56 AM	#68
HappyFatChick On Timeout Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,589	You are what you think you are. You become what you focus on. Give me an "ordinary" man/woman and I can probably make him/her "successful". It's not that hard. It's a choice. It takes a plan. And a lot of prayer. (Unless one is just interested in "worldly" success which is empty.) Doubters get exactly what they expect. Excuses and a victim mentality keep people down. The NYSlimes is a proven abomination of falsified news stories/reports, disgraced reporters, and photoshopped "news pictures." Their circulation is in the dumpster. Their ad revenue is down. They are a disgrace. To the reading public may I suggest books/audio/publications by Tony Robbins, Donald Trump, Brian Buffini, Joyce Meyer, and the Bible. There are also books about self-talk by Shad Helmstetter. (Probably available from your library.) I say go for the glory and don't settle for mediocrity. Not ever.

10-26-2006, 08:08 PM	#70
HappyFatChick On Timeout Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,589	The New York Slimes is an outstanding paper if you like treasonist reporters, traitors, libel, slander, falsified stories and pictures. They should be ashamed of themselves and apologize to the American public for their fraud and incompetence. Then they should shut down and cease to exist. Take your pick. They have some doozies. The New York Slimes: proudly serving jihadists for 17 years. Their motto: “If it ain’t secret, it ain’t news!” http://www.texasrainmaker.com/2006/0...imes-traitors/ http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/25/D8IFB4VO1.html http://www.texasrainmaker.com/2006/0...2940499882865/ http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa..._staff_member/ http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/200...DESHOW_21.html http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/23/D8IDMQ180.html

10-26-2006, 08:24 PM	#72
HappyFatChick On Timeout Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,589	And once again you cease to amaze me with your support for such a terror-supporting organization. Fox news isn't airing national classified information that supports terrorists. They aren't creating pictures to give the wrong impression about a situation. Truce? You go ahead and support the New York Slimes and I will support my country and president.