14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism

Wayne_Zitkus · 12-05-2006, 05:03 PM

A college professor has compared many fascist regimes and found they had 14 characteristics in common. I posted the first four - the balance can be found at the link. It's interesting how many of these characteristics can also be found in the Bush Administration....

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Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Source Free Inquiry.co

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

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http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm

Green Eyed Fairy · 12-05-2006, 05:55 PM

From what I was reading on that link, you should have gone ahead and posted all fourteen...

Yes, that does sound familiar....

Fairia · 12-05-2006, 06:10 PM

Very interesting find and also a few similarities as to what is going on now. But first of all, hasn't there been some form of facism in the U.S. in the past? And if there's rampant sexism, how do you explain Condolezza Rice or Nancy Pelosi? And we've been doing smear campaigns in elections going back to the sixties (but I could be wrong on that), and one wonders how they would react if an elected hopeful ever gets assassinated or an attempted assassination in this country.

Wayne_Zitkus · 12-05-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairia

Very interesting find and also a few similarities as to what is going on now. But first of all, hasn't there been some form of facism in the U.S. in the past? And if there's rampant sexism, how do you explain Condolezza Rice or Nancy Pelosi? And we've been doing smear campaigns in elections going back to the sixties (but I could be wrong on that), and one wonders how they would react if an elected hopeful ever gets assassinated or an attempted assassination in this country.

That's happened before. Bobby Kennedy was killed while running for president in '68 and George Wallace was parapyzed by an assassin in '72.

Wayne_Zitkus · 12-05-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Eyed Fairy

From what I was reading on that link, you should have gone ahead and posted all fourteen...

Yes, that does sound familiar....

I didn't want to infringe on any copyrights, so I only posted four.

1300 Class · 12-05-2006, 10:58 PM

1. So, people waving flags during a baseball game, or say at a home coming parade or who have a small flag on their house or car, are supporting fascism? Good golly, think of the children, for are we under your liberal agenda not allowed to show emotion, or dare even pride?

2. Has the constitution been suspended, the congress suspended or killed or the building burnt to the ground (hey, wait a minute, you guys now control it)? No. Has execution without trial and to the full extent of the law taken place? No. Has the executive rounded up the democratic party, burnt it's office's down, or banned it? No.

3. Not such, then again loads of Democrats have been far, far worse.

4. Yes, so what? Has been since the start of the cold war, in fact, since December 7th 1941. Defence spending is important, and in fact made America what it is today, a global superpower. It is an important facet of economic spending, and is heavily intertwined into the US economy, particulary in the sunbelt states.

5. Yet women, black and other minorities all have their places firmly entrenched in the cabinet. Hmmm..

6. Amazing how we always hear of the vast liberal media empires having an agenda and attacking the government on important issues.

7. I seriously doubt motivation, but it is a key policy issue, something that both parties seek to prove they are tough on.

8. So, to be blunt, we should not be able to show any sign of religion? Government policy and government and religion are two very different things. To take the UK as an example, the head of state, is also the head of the only official state religion. Is that the same in the US, no it is not. Policy that favours the support base of the party in question, is far different from a theocracy, as that of say Iran.

9. So, governments should always have anti business, anti corporate policy, all the time, unless they want to be labelled fascist? How does the economy work, without business's?

10. (Generally, not in regard to Wayne) This point totally ignores unions, which are often manipulated by the regime in question for their own purposes, or even work with the regime to further their own agenda. This assumes that all unions are the same, and that they seek the same thing.

11. The constitution and numerous laws prevents this. The current administration has made no moves to prevent the exploration and advancment of art and academia, and no moves to supress it.

12. "Do the Crime, do the time" has been a key policy that has not changed since the 1970s, and has contributed to a healthy prison industrial complex in the country. This is not unique, and in fact, policy has changed little over the course of administrations. And that there is no US police force with massive overt, or for that fact covert juristriction or powers. The means cannot be obtained to do so.

13. Since when has the executive taken the resources of the nation into their own pockets? The Republican Party, along with its Democratic counterpart have both been afflicted with cronyism and corruption at various stages of their administrations. Something that is not unique to this administration, unlike some South American bananna republic.

14. Your happy when you win, but can't take a loss? Hmmm, merely sounds like "sore loser syndrome". What evidence is there of this, at any stage of the procedings, what convictions or cases have been brought forth? What conclusive evidence has been established?

This is not so much an argment against what the link says (though I would tend to disagree with some of his conclusions as a little, well hackneyed), more the conclusion that dear old Wayne has reached.

CurvaceousBBWLover · 12-06-2006, 09:10 AM

Many of the characteristics Wayne points to are present in our goverment.

Fairia · 12-06-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne_Zitkus

That's happened before. Bobby Kennedy was killed while running for president in '68 and George Wallace was parapyzed by an assassin in '72.

Ah, thanks for correcting me

.

T_Devil · 12-06-2006, 01:10 PM

That's the wonderful insidousness of Fascisim, it can look like so many other things. By the time you realize that you are under fascist control, it's too late. Well, too late for most. People who recognize the early signs that thier nation is heading into a fascist state are often labled as nut-job conspiracy crazies and are promptly ignored. It's when those crazies abrubtly dissappear where I begin my suspicions.

A lot of the tell tale signs of Fascism are masked because there is so much national pride involved. So many things that conspire to rule a persons senses, fear, saftey, economics, etc, that a turn towards complete contaiment of ones freedoms.

Does anyone find it odd that our current president of the United States supports illegal wire-tapping and torture?

I'm not saying that we are headed towards a fascist dictatorship. Not at all. I am saying that we really gotta watch who we elect and how they weild their power because that measure of power can be used upon us. Think about that if you are ever "Detained for questioning" for something as insipid as a traffic stop.

That would never happen? Try to imagine that it could be a possibility. That people covet that kind of power.

I don't like the direction global politics is in. There is too much that can be used against it's citizens. Not just the United States, but all over the world. Think of how your leaders could abuse their powers and then imagine a very cunning liar taking office and who WOULD abuse those powers.

"People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people"- V

That's a good way of looking at it. All it would take is for a nation of disenchanted citizens to declare their own war against a government that has lied to them so much and has treated them so poorly that death is a preferred choice as to life under that kind of rule.

Imagine the United States, or the United Kingdom, or France, or Germany, or Spain or even China (remember Tianiman square?) in a complete state of Anarchy and chaos.

This world borders too closely with tension. Too many people willing to kill in the name of *insert cause here*. Facisim helps to build this tension. Look at the situation in Iraq now that Hussein is gone. Was there this much unrest while he was in power? No, because he had an iron grip on his people. Death and torture were used to control the population. Now it's being used as a form of communication.

It's hard to say which nation will take on a fascist form. Some look like they will and never do. Some take that form almost over night. One thing is for certain though, there are too many of the wrong kind of people in this word that are weilding too much of the right kind of power, and not enough people out there to question it that can truly make a difference.

Only the people can stop their government, and that is never a pleasant state of affairs. But what's worse, being kicked by the boot, or live with the boot pushing your face into the ground?

1300 Class · 12-06-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CurvaceousBBWLover

Many of the characteristics Wayne points to are present in our goverment.

If you wish to warp things to fit such an agenda, then you might very well think that.

biodieselman · 12-06-2006, 05:08 PM

To debate the comparison of the U.S. to fascism would be a waste of time. No amount of evidence or facts would change their mistaken opinions about the U.S.. The real question should be, what are the true motives of the people making such ludicrous comparisons? Sounds like BS political motives making absurd statements; such extremist prattle is what turns most voters off to the far left and the far right.

Wayne_Zitkus · 12-06-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by biodieselman

To debate the comparison of the U.S. to fascism would be a waste of time. No amount of evidence or facts would change their mistaken opinions about the U.S.. The real question should be, what are the true motives of the people making such ludicrous comparisons? Sounds like BS political motives making absurd statements; such extremist prattle is what turns most voters off to the far left and the far right.

And to ignore the similarities between the Bush Administration and fascist regimes can be very dangerous, IMHO.

biodieselman · 12-06-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne_Zitkus

And to ignore the similarities between the Bush Administration and fascist regimes can be very dangerous, IMHO.

Great, in addition to looking for terrorists under my bed at night, now I have to look for fascists too? Could I borrow some tin foil?

Oh, the absurdity of it all!

Wayne_Zitkus · 12-06-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by biodieselman

Great, in addition to looking for terrorists under my bed at night, now I have to look for fascists too? Could I borrow some tin foil?

Oh, the absurdity of it all!

The only thing I find absurd is trusting anything George W. Bush and his croneys do or say.

CurvaceousBBWLover · 12-06-2006, 08:39 PM

The similarity is very disturbing.

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Originally Posted by Wayne_Zitkus

And to ignore the similarities between the Bush Administration and fascist regimes can be very dangerous, IMHO.

1300 Class · 12-06-2006, 11:03 PM

The only thing I find absurd is trusting anything George W. Bush and his croneys do or say.
Trusting what the government, any government (heh, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman", watergate, LBJ the list goes on..) says or does implicetly is dangerous. However, after careful consideration, taking the considered view of things, from different sources of information and your opinion of matters, you can decide whats true and what isn't (that being said, doesn't make things implicently false or true).

Resorting to the application of broad lables is usually not on, as I have heard said here a number of times. The liberal agenda (or individuals within it) who resort to the use of the term "fascists" etc in this case (through warped terminology and definitions) are no better than the ones they are trying to rally against, as both sides stop fighting on policies and issues, and resort, to what is essentially name calling.

The similarity is very disturbing.
What is your reasong for this?

biodieselman · 12-07-2006, 05:59 AM

QUIET everyone, I heard a noise outside my window!. OH MY GOD, it's a man in a uniform marching up the walkway to my front door.

The fascists are coming, the fascists are coming! (Running through the house towards Dee). Here honey, save yourself, take my tin foil hat, I only had enough tin foil to make one. I should have known not to recycle everything. Wait, I hear the mail box being rattled. (Peeking out the curtains). Oh, it's just the mailman.

But wait! I see an American flag on his truck.

Quick, call the neighbor, he's a conservative, he MUST have a whole garage full of guns & ammo, he's a conservative. Thank God for right wing nut jobs! Wait, can I say God in public?

This makes every bit as much sense as trying to make arguments for comparing America to fascists. Emotional arguments with no merit or substance. An all too common tactic in a polarized society when the merit of arguments is lacking, start name calling using emotionally loaded terms, 'you're a fascists'. Does the far left have any clue how silly they sound?

T_Devil · 12-07-2006, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biodieselman

QUIET everyone, I heard a noise outside my window!. OH MY GOD, it's a man in a uniform marching up the walkway to my front door.

The fascists are coming, the fascists are coming! (Running through the house towards Dee). Here honey, save yourself, take my tin foil hat, I only had enough tin foil to make one. I should have known not to recycle everything. Wait, I hear the mail box being rattled. (Peeking out the curtains). Oh, it's just the mailman.

But wait! I see an American flag on his truck.

Quick, call the neighbor, he's a conservative, he MUST have a whole garage full of guns & ammo, he's a conservative. Thank God for right wing nut jobs! Wait, can I say God in public?

This makes every bit as much sense as trying to make arguments for comparing America to fascists. Emotional arguments with no merit or substance. An all too common tactic in a polarized society when the merit of arguments is lacking, start name calling using emotionally loaded terms, 'you're a fascists'. Does the far left have any clue how silly they sound?

You just did the same thing with your use of satire, so what's your point?

Miss Vickie · 12-07-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by biodieselman

Does the far left have any clue how silly they sound?

No sillier than the far right, or anyone with any kind of obsessive agenda which they hawk at every opportunity. *shrug*

Wayne_Zitkus · 12-07-2006, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vickie

No sillier than the far right, or anyone with any kind of obsessive agenda which they hawk at every opportunity. *shrug*

Somehow I have a feeling that some people around here are trying to compensate for the absence of a certain person who has not returned from her "time out".....

Wagimawr · 12-07-2006, 04:28 PM

You mean HappyFatChick?

Thought so, when you said "certain person who has not returned from her 'time out'".

Trying to be sneaky again, eh Wayne?

biodieselman · 12-07-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vickie

No sillier than the far right, or anyone with any kind of obsessive agenda which they hawk at every opportunity. *shrug*

I totally agree. I have equal disdain and suspicion for the far left and far right. Absurd theories shouldn't go unchallenged in a free society. I have many issues with President Bush but I would never compare this great nation to a fascist regime; how long would such an outrageous comparison be allowed in a fascist society? That is out of line even for those that hate the standing President.

Mini · 12-07-2006, 06:22 PM

Dogs have legs.

I have legs.

Dogs have hair.

I have hair.

Dogs have tongues.

I have a tongue.

Dogs have 2 eyes.

*I* have two eyes.

Holy shit! Four similarities! I must be a dog.

Wagimawr · 12-07-2006, 06:24 PM

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mini again.

1300 Class · 12-07-2006, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mini

Dogs have legs.

I have legs.

Dogs have hair.

I have hair.

Dogs have tongues.

I have a tongue.

Dogs have 2 eyes.

*I* have two eyes.

Holy shit! Four similarities! I must be a dog.

Classic deductive reasoning.

12-05-2006, 05:55 PM	#2
Green Eyed Fairy is giggling. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In Your Head Posts: 19,275	From what I was reading on that link, you should have gone ahead and posted all fourteen... Yes, that does sound familiar.... __________________ "The longing of my heart is a fairy portrait of myself: I want to be pretty; I want to eliminate facts and fill up the gap with charms." "See these eyes so green, I can stare for a thousand years, Colder than the moon It's been so long and I've been putting out fire with gasoline"

12-05-2006, 06:10 PM	#3
Fairia Blimpgirl = superheroine Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 488	Very interesting find and also a few similarities as to what is going on now. But first of all, hasn't there been some form of facism in the U.S. in the past? And if there's rampant sexism, how do you explain Condolezza Rice or Nancy Pelosi? And we've been doing smear campaigns in elections going back to the sixties (but I could be wrong on that), and one wonders how they would react if an elected hopeful ever gets assassinated or an attempted assassination in this country. __________________ I'm plump as a roast and thicker than most Given a choice between fat and dumb and thin and smart, I would choose the later: because I would be smart enough not to be thin.

12-05-2006, 10:58 PM	#6
1300 Class Smug Annoying Centrist Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5,946	1. So, people waving flags during a baseball game, or say at a home coming parade or who have a small flag on their house or car, are supporting fascism? Good golly, think of the children, for are we under your liberal agenda not allowed to show emotion, or dare even pride? 2. Has the constitution been suspended, the congress suspended or killed or the building burnt to the ground (hey, wait a minute, you guys now control it)? No. Has execution without trial and to the full extent of the law taken place? No. Has the executive rounded up the democratic party, burnt it's office's down, or banned it? No. 3. Not such, then again loads of Democrats have been far, far worse. 4. Yes, so what? Has been since the start of the cold war, in fact, since December 7th 1941. Defence spending is important, and in fact made America what it is today, a global superpower. It is an important facet of economic spending, and is heavily intertwined into the US economy, particulary in the sunbelt states. 5. Yet women, black and other minorities all have their places firmly entrenched in the cabinet. Hmmm.. 6. Amazing how we always hear of the vast liberal media empires having an agenda and attacking the government on important issues. 7. I seriously doubt motivation, but it is a key policy issue, something that both parties seek to prove they are tough on. 8. So, to be blunt, we should not be able to show any sign of religion? Government policy and government and religion are two very different things. To take the UK as an example, the head of state, is also the head of the only official state religion. Is that the same in the US, no it is not. Policy that favours the support base of the party in question, is far different from a theocracy, as that of say Iran. 9. So, governments should always have anti business, anti corporate policy, all the time, unless they want to be labelled fascist? How does the economy work, without business's? 10. (Generally, not in regard to Wayne) This point totally ignores unions, which are often manipulated by the regime in question for their own purposes, or even work with the regime to further their own agenda. This assumes that all unions are the same, and that they seek the same thing. 11. The constitution and numerous laws prevents this. The current administration has made no moves to prevent the exploration and advancment of art and academia, and no moves to supress it. 12. "Do the Crime, do the time" has been a key policy that has not changed since the 1970s, and has contributed to a healthy prison industrial complex in the country. This is not unique, and in fact, policy has changed little over the course of administrations. And that there is no US police force with massive overt, or for that fact covert juristriction or powers. The means cannot be obtained to do so. 13. Since when has the executive taken the resources of the nation into their own pockets? The Republican Party, along with its Democratic counterpart have both been afflicted with cronyism and corruption at various stages of their administrations. Something that is not unique to this administration, unlike some South American bananna republic. 14. Your happy when you win, but can't take a loss? Hmmm, merely sounds like "sore loser syndrome". What evidence is there of this, at any stage of the procedings, what convictions or cases have been brought forth? What conclusive evidence has been established? This is not so much an argment against what the link says (though I would tend to disagree with some of his conclusions as a little, well hackneyed), more the conclusion that dear old Wayne has reached. Last edited by 1300 Class : 12-05-2006 at 11:03 PM.

12-06-2006, 09:10 AM	#7
CurvaceousBBWLover Sexy Wordsmith Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beyond the thrice ninth land in the thrice tenth kingdom Posts: 2,626	Many of the characteristics Wayne points to are present in our goverment. __________________ "A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history."--Mohandas Ghandi

12-06-2006, 01:10 PM	#9
T_Devil A Happy Disaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell. Posts: 1,334	That's the wonderful insidousness of Fascisim, it can look like so many other things. By the time you realize that you are under fascist control, it's too late. Well, too late for most. People who recognize the early signs that thier nation is heading into a fascist state are often labled as nut-job conspiracy crazies and are promptly ignored. It's when those crazies abrubtly dissappear where I begin my suspicions. A lot of the tell tale signs of Fascism are masked because there is so much national pride involved. So many things that conspire to rule a persons senses, fear, saftey, economics, etc, that a turn towards complete contaiment of ones freedoms. Does anyone find it odd that our current president of the United States supports illegal wire-tapping and torture? I'm not saying that we are headed towards a fascist dictatorship. Not at all. I am saying that we really gotta watch who we elect and how they weild their power because that measure of power can be used upon us. Think about that if you are ever "Detained for questioning" for something as insipid as a traffic stop. That would never happen? Try to imagine that it could be a possibility. That people covet that kind of power. I don't like the direction global politics is in. There is too much that can be used against it's citizens. Not just the United States, but all over the world. Think of how your leaders could abuse their powers and then imagine a very cunning liar taking office and who WOULD abuse those powers. "People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people"- V That's a good way of looking at it. All it would take is for a nation of disenchanted citizens to declare their own war against a government that has lied to them so much and has treated them so poorly that death is a preferred choice as to life under that kind of rule. Imagine the United States, or the United Kingdom, or France, or Germany, or Spain or even China (remember Tianiman square?) in a complete state of Anarchy and chaos. This world borders too closely with tension. Too many people willing to kill in the name of insert cause here. Facisim helps to build this tension. Look at the situation in Iraq now that Hussein is gone. Was there this much unrest while he was in power? No, because he had an iron grip on his people. Death and torture were used to control the population. Now it's being used as a form of communication. It's hard to say which nation will take on a fascist form. Some look like they will and never do. Some take that form almost over night. One thing is for certain though, there are too many of the wrong kind of people in this word that are weilding too much of the right kind of power, and not enough people out there to question it that can truly make a difference. Only the people can stop their government, and that is never a pleasant state of affairs. But what's worse, being kicked by the boot, or live with the boot pushing your face into the ground? __________________ I pray to the BBW Gods. They deliver!

12-06-2006, 05:08 PM	#11
biodieselman Spooling up the turbo!!! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Left Coast in East LA Posts: 2,531	What a load of BS. To debate the comparison of the U.S. to fascism would be a waste of time. No amount of evidence or facts would change their mistaken opinions about the U.S.. The real question should be, what are the true motives of the people making such ludicrous comparisons? Sounds like BS political motives making absurd statements; such extremist prattle is what turns most voters off to the far left and the far right. __________________ Sustainable An attempt to provide the best outcome for the human and natural environments both now and into the indefinite future. Development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. Sustainability relates to the continuity of economic, social, institutional and environmental aspects of human society, as well as the non-human environment. Brundtland Commission, Norway Last edited by biodieselman : 12-06-2006 at 05:12 PM.

12-06-2006, 11:03 PM	#16
1300 Class Smug Annoying Centrist Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5,946	The only thing I find absurd is trusting anything George W. Bush and his croneys do or say. Trusting what the government, any government (heh, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman", watergate, LBJ the list goes on..) says or does implicetly is dangerous. However, after careful consideration, taking the considered view of things, from different sources of information and your opinion of matters, you can decide whats true and what isn't (that being said, doesn't make things implicently false or true). Resorting to the application of broad lables is usually not on, as I have heard said here a number of times. The liberal agenda (or individuals within it) who resort to the use of the term "fascists" etc in this case (through warped terminology and definitions) are no better than the ones they are trying to rally against, as both sides stop fighting on policies and issues, and resort, to what is essentially name calling. The similarity is very disturbing. What is your reasong for this?

12-07-2006, 05:59 AM	#17
biodieselman Spooling up the turbo!!! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Left Coast in East LA Posts: 2,531	The fascists are coming, the fascists are coming! QUIET everyone, I heard a noise outside my window!. OH MY GOD, it's a man in a uniform marching up the walkway to my front door. The fascists are coming, the fascists are coming! (Running through the house towards Dee). Here honey, save yourself, take my tin foil hat, I only had enough tin foil to make one. I should have known not to recycle everything. Wait, I hear the mail box being rattled. (Peeking out the curtains). Oh, it's just the mailman. But wait! I see an American flag on his truck. Quick, call the neighbor, he's a conservative, he MUST have a whole garage full of guns & ammo, he's a conservative. Thank God for right wing nut jobs! Wait, can I say God in public? This makes every bit as much sense as trying to make arguments for comparing America to fascists. Emotional arguments with no merit or substance. An all too common tactic in a polarized society when the merit of arguments is lacking, start name calling using emotionally loaded terms, 'you're a fascists'. Does the far left have any clue how silly they sound? __________________ Sustainable An attempt to provide the best outcome for the human and natural environments both now and into the indefinite future. Development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. Sustainability relates to the continuity of economic, social, institutional and environmental aspects of human society, as well as the non-human environment. Brundtland Commission, Norway

12-07-2006, 04:28 PM	#21
Wagimawr Executive Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Winston-Salem, North Carolina Posts: 6,247	You mean HappyFatChick? Thought so, when you said "certain person who has not returned from her 'time out'". Trying to be sneaky again, eh Wayne? __________________ hehe executive member professional wang. you said member.

12-07-2006, 06:22 PM	#23
Mini Right, not nice Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 5,004	Dogs have legs. I have legs. Dogs have hair. I have hair. Dogs have tongues. I have a tongue. Dogs have 2 eyes. I have two eyes. Holy shit! Four similarities! I must be a dog.

12-07-2006, 06:24 PM	#24
Wagimawr Executive Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Winston-Salem, North Carolina Posts: 6,247	You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mini again. __________________ hehe executive member professional wang. you said member.

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