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Old 01-11-2007, 08:59 AM   #1
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Alll this talk about breasts reminds me of an essay I wrote last year. Hope you enjoy...
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Big breasts and fat bellies:
The hypocrisy of beauty

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"The only way to make 10 pounds of fat instantly attractive is to put a nipple on it." -- unknown comedian

Haha. That joke reminds me of a woman I knew in college who had succumbed to the freshman 15 and was well along on her sophomore 30.

She would stick her belly way out round and full, then smile and say, "I'm not getting fat. I'm just growing another breast. And it's a big 'un. Give me a beer."

Of course, I find all fat attractive and indeed erotic, but the quote above shows how narrow our definition of beauty has become. Many men (and women) really love to look at breasts, and what they like the most is the roundness, the plumpness of them. At the same time, many people accept society's notion that plumpness is not so great a thing when it comes to the waistline and lower.

Many people fantasize about impossibly huge breasts even, and there are a zillion morphs on the internet which attest to that. And I know many women who really enjoy seeing other women's breasts. And, of course, some even well-endowed women will make themselves larger through dangerous surgeries. Many men love them big, and they approve of bigger and bigger. At the same time, many of these same men are negative about big bellies, thighs, hips.

And what are we saying, men, when we say we desire this look?

That we want women to put themselves in danger, that we want them to hurt, to undergo the knife? How cruel!

If you like big breasts, you'd should also like a potbelly and wide hips and thick thighs, because it generally comes in a package all together. A curvy woman is genereally curvy all over, and if you don't like that, then you really want women to hurt themselves -- for what? Your own selfishness!

There are very few women with huge breasts who do not also have at least a little belly. It's entirely natural, and if you don't like it, then you must not love how women naturally look. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with breasts at all! I love them as much as any man (or woman) possibly could.

What's wrong is society and media notions of beauty.

Probably some message from our childhood makes us find breasts so appealing and erotic. But basically, outside of their purpose for nourishing babies, what are breasts but big round balls of delicious fat?

Yet, move that fat just a few inches south, and many people are disgusted.

Go figure. Humans are about the craziest people in the universe. Me, I love women's curves no matter where they may appear.

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Old 01-11-2007, 09:03 AM   #2
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I have seen that before.

It makes a good point.
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I think the underlying message, might be. "Do your part, to keep the economic beast well oiled, and squeak free." So by men unwilling to tolerate, a flabby whatever. It keeps a high percentage of the ladies in the vicious circle, of image control. Dieting, cosmetic surgery, clothing industry, and the restaraunt, or grocery, industries. So if their kept yo-yoing around they shouldn't have time to realize how ridiculous and unhappy they are. Like the post mentions it is perfectly acceptable to have giant boobs installed, and round butt's, or lipo for undesirable areas, and whatever else can be dreamt up. So the message there is men you can like these huge boobs and curvy behinds, only if they're artificial with a receipt to prove it. Ok I should stop now my head is startin to spin, plus anyone who might be reading this is asleep by now. Forgive me guys I tend to get carried off at times, lol. Anyways, hopefully I made some sense.

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I've found that the best way to convince someone of a certain viewpoint is 1) Convince them that it's okay to adopt the belief and 2) Convince them that it's what they already believe in their hearts.

But a guilt trip sometimes works, too!
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I have always marveled at the importance some place on big, ripe, round, breasts---but the courtesy doesn't extend to big, ripe, round bellies.
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I just posted about this in another thread. So many men want big plush real breasts on tiny little women with rock hard tummies. Many guys are all about my big boobies but would love to kick the rest of me to the curb. Just doesn't make sense...if they love to caress my breasts for their softness, then why not the rest!!! I'd think its much nicer to ride my soft hips and ass than to hit those pointy hip bones.

Its all soft baby, just give the rest of me a chance.....
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"Girls with big breasts have big asses. Girls with small asses have small breasts. God doesn't screw around with stuff like that, God's a fair guy..."

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Maybe outside of Dimensions, but here? It's quite the contrary....

http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/fo...ad.php?t=16993

Look at how many belly lovers we have!!!
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But a guilt trip sometimes works, too!
Well, crap, don't TELL us! Now we'll know!

I'm starting to get the idea you've got a big noggin on those shoudlers, Stan.
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I think it's a little unfair to impose consequences on sexual desire, because it's just that. Wish, Longing, uncompromising need. It's a feeling, it doesn't involve consequences or dread. Simply being attracted to a certain body type is an innate inclination, like a preference for french cooking or the ability to become easily excited.

NOW, the social constructs that say this is the ONLY attractive type, that this is the IDEAL and NATURAL female state, or belittling those who fail to meet this aberrant mold, that can have a negative moral dimension.
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No no, it's cool! I think we all should be fully equipped for FA proselytization.
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This is because God is an engineer, and knows that you shouldn't put that much up front with out a counter weight in the rear!

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I think it's a little unfair to impose consequences on sexual desire, because it's just that. Wish, Longing, uncompromising need. It's a feeling, it doesn't involve consequences or dread. Simply being attracted to a certain body type is an innate inclination, like a preference for french cooking or the ability to become easily excited.

NOW, the social constructs that say this is the ONLY attractive type, that this is the IDEAL and NATURAL female state, or belittling those who fail to meet this aberrant mold, that can have a negative moral dimension.
So the message the women are getting is "Be like Barbie". Be top heavy and made mostly of plastic! How can anybody call that "natural"?

In this case I say, that the social constructs are screwed up!

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I just posted about this in another thread. So many men want big plush real breasts on tiny little women with rock hard tummies. Many guys are all about my big boobies but would love to kick the rest of me to the curb. Just doesn't make sense...if they love to caress my breasts for their softness, then why not the rest!!! I'd think its much nicer to ride my soft hips and ass than to hit those pointy hip bones.

Its all soft baby, just give the rest of me a chance.....
Yeah, those hip bones gotta bruise someone. And if both partners are thin, well, those bones will kind of grind together. Not at all enjoyable, I would think.

I guess so many people are like those folks in Plato's cave, looking at unrealistic shadows instead of facing the reality of what men and women really look like. Why not enjoy what is in front of you, what is real, instead of pining for some impossible unreality?

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...If you think about it, aren't *all* standards of beauty completely subjective anyway? I mean, is there any more point to arguing the logic of "liking large breasts vs. large bellies" than arguing the logic of preferring someone who is taller or shorter than "average"? Or perhaps trying to argue the futility of preferring redheads to brunettes, when both are hair pigments that make the hair darker than a blonde color?

Obviously, some people made a completely subjective and illogical decision that they found large breasts attractive, to the exclusion of fat elsewhere on a woman's body, and that line of thinking was mimicked over time by many others.

Personally, I'm against practically any type of cosmetic surgery. I think people should learn to work with the body they've got, vs. spending thousands to fake it looking different than it really does. So yeah, breast implants do *nothing* for me. But millions of people obviously disagree - so I chalk it up to personal choice, not a "right" and "wrong" type of issue.
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Hey, I got yelled at for posting about liking smaller breasts...so I don't want to hear any flak from girls about the demanding of unnecessary surgery.

And for the record, I like natural breasts...and to clear it up, I do like big breasts, I'm just not a 'breast man'.

So...I suppose I like breasts in general? I don't know how that all works out...

I do love bellies though...I'm a BELLY MAN!!!

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I really don't think that boobs vs. bellies is something we should worry about. Everyone has preferences. Whether you like large boobs or large bellies is no different from whether you like brown hair or blonde hair. Liking one more than the other is an issue of personal taste.
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I didn't mean for this essay to generate a boobs vs. belly sort of discussion.

But it has.

My point:

Our society, the media, those who get to decide for the rest of us what is "beautiful" to the masses, acts kind of schizophrenically in not recognizing that those desirable big boobs are basically fat, but if that fat is anywhere else, it is deemed "ugly."

Kind of like we all learned about Barbie dolls years ago; that look, without a lot of surgery (and a lot of back pain), is basically a fantasy!

And again, yeah, I think it's great for any individual to express personal likes and dislikes. I just hate being told that thin is beautiful (when I don't think it is), or that fat is ugly (when I know that it isn't)... We all have a diversity of preferences, and that's great, just part of the mysterious makeup of human beings... It goes along well with the diversity of appearances we have.
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I think talking about the erotic is another form of eroticism. In other words, we get off talking about what we like as much as we like liking what we like.

Intercourse, of course, has several connotations....and, some of it is all talk.
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Haven't we beaten this subject to death already? There is nothing hypocritical about liking big breasts but not necessarily big bellies. Everyone has a preference. If everyone had the same preference, this world would be a boring place.

This is not the first breast vs. belly thread that I have encountered on this board. What I wonder is what is motivating people to write these threads? Is it some personal insecurity perhaps? Is it an unnecessarily deep-seated need to try to control other people's preferences? We are different fat admirers. Some guys like large posteriors. Some guys like large tops. Some guys like enormous bellies. And a few of us like any combination of the above. If you ask me, it really doesn't make a difference what we like as long as we respect the women who are attached to the bellies, breasts and behinds. Frankly, I have to wonder when I see all these debates about whether this body part is sexier than that body part. In all honesty, a woman's sexiest body part is the one we can't see: her BRAIN.





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"The only way to make 10 pounds of fat instantly attractive is to put a nipple on it." -- unknown comedian

Haha. That joke reminds me of a woman I knew in college who had succumbed to the freshman 15 and was well along on her sophomore 30.

She would stick her belly way out round and full, then smile and say, "I'm not getting fat. I'm just growing another breast. And it's a big 'un. Give me a beer."

Of course, I find all fat attractive and indeed erotic, but the quote above shows how narrow our definition of beauty has become. Many men (and women) really love to look at breasts, and what they like the most is the roundness, the plumpness of them. At the same time, many people accept society's notion that plumpness is not so great a thing when it comes to the waistline and lower.

Many people fantasize about impossibly huge breasts even, and there are a zillion morphs on the internet which attest to that. And I know many women who really enjoy seeing other women's breasts. And, of course, some even well-endowed women will make themselves larger through dangerous surgeries. Many men love them big, and they approve of bigger and bigger. At the same time, many of these same men are negative about big bellies, thighs, hips.

And what are we saying, men, when we say we desire this look?

That we want women to put themselves in danger, that we want them to hurt, to undergo the knife? How cruel!

If you like big breasts, you'd should also like a potbelly and wide hips and thick thighs, because it generally comes in a package all together. A curvy woman is genereally curvy all over, and if you don't like that, then you really want women to hurt themselves -- for what? Your own selfishness!

There are very few women with huge breasts who do not also have at least a little belly. It's entirely natural, and if you don't like it, then you must not love how women naturally look. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with breasts at all! I love them as much as any man (or woman) possibly could.

What's wrong is society and media notions of beauty.

Probably some message from our childhood makes us find breasts so appealing and erotic. But basically, outside of their purpose for nourishing babies, what are breasts but big round balls of delicious fat?

Yet, move that fat just a few inches south, and many people are disgusted.

Go figure. Humans are about the craziest people in the universe. Me, I love women's curves no matter where they may appear.

Have a great day, and enjoy life to the fullest!
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