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Old 03-02-2007, 09:23 PM   #51
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Ditto...on BOTH counts....... especially the phone thing.... gotta love that!



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Old 03-02-2007, 09:27 PM   #52
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One question... Masturbration... is this the term for Masturbation while using electric tools?
It's um... a celebration of masturbation, only in one word.


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Old 03-02-2007, 09:30 PM   #53
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REEEEEALLLLYYYY...... hmmmm....interesting........I'll be doing some internet surfing tonight, I think. Thanks for that.





Haven't been brave enough to use the vib. I just kinda feel weird. And the handiwork...just doesn't cut it... LOL
I believe...this is it. As for being worried...just tell your man tough darts if he has a problem.
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Thanks a million for the info...I'll definitely be checking that out....


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Thanks a million for the info...I'll definitely be checking that out....
Don't take this in a pervy way, but let me know if it works for you. I want to know if it's worth it for future reference.
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Not taken pervy at all, and I'll definitely let you know....


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...there's nothing like knowing that, with a simple flick of the wrist(so to speak)...one can illicit such a POWERFUL response from their partner. honestly, most of the time i prefer it over sex. and i'm positive that this fact alone puts me in yet another minority group.
We're a minority of two!

I bought my girlfriend a "twin engine" vibrator (one motor in the middle for internal stimulation, and one motor externally as a clitoral stimulator. As she was catching her breath afterward she described the experience as "illegal in all 50 states". I do love being the "equipment operator"!

Regular ol' sex is good too, but there's just something about focusing on her enjoyment exclusively that's very rewarding to me.
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Following behind This1Yankee, I'll put this out there.

I'm a big fan of "taking care of business" for yourself. I have no problem with doing it, or the fact the people do it. It's just a natural thing. About 15 years ago, a guy I was involved with introduced me to the wonderful world of vibrators. Love 'em. One slight problem. I got into the habit of pretty much using the vib all the time, and now I have a VERY difficult time making it happen without the vib. So my conclusion is that now my body is "dependent" on the vib. How the heck to I break out of that one? Even when I'm all into it with a guy, it just doesn't happen, and I end up "faking it" just to avoid the embarassment, frankly. (I can't believe I'm baring my soul to all of you... )

Anyone else have this "issue"? Anyone have any suggestions for a solution?
1. Yankee: just b/c we're all talking 'bout it doesn't mean we all do it, or that we all have success when we try. I don't think you're alone, by any means. It doesn't sound like you're too terribly bothered, right?

2. VB: a few summers ago, I went on a good vacation (abroad) as a graduation treat. I have a pet and so I had to put away all my naughties in a big wooden ammo case I call the 'Den of Inequity.' Anyway, when I came home, my toy was stashed so far away that I just tried going w/o it for awhile. It was a bit of an ugly transition, but then--va voom! I was back to manual labor and I was LOVING it. Stayed that way for a few years, and lemme tell ya, things with a partner improved. It can be done. I'd recommend putting everything far away, or hell, lock 'em in your office or something so you don't have access (this is like an AA meeting. Do you want me to be your sponsor?) And then--hands off! No ...balancing your portfolio, if you know what I mean. For a long time. Weeks, if you can. And then try again, w/o 'marital aids.' And keep at it. I'm much more responsive now with a partner (as my neighbors can attest when I get the infrequent opportunity!) and while some of that is my age (peak! peak!) a lot of it comes from being less buzz-y!

another idea: if you MUST use a toy (and really, try a few weeks w/o), then use it on the lowest possible setting and don't ratchet it up any higher. Try training yourself to sense the lightest sensations. That's all I can say w/o this devolving into something dirty.

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Old 03-02-2007, 10:15 PM   #59
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Kitchenware department? Were they selling it as an egg frother?

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uhm, isn't that what a vibe really is, anyway?


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I'm going to try that.... I've tried it a little, but I end up giving in and going back to the toy. I'll just have to force it on myself....

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2. VB: a few summers ago, I went on a good vacation (abroad) as a graduation treat. I have a pet and so I had to put away all my naughties in a big wooden ammo case I call the 'Den of Inequity.' Anyway, when I came home, my toy was stashed so far away that I just tried going w/o it for awhile. It was a bit of an ugly transition, but then--va voom! I was back to manual labor and I was LOVING it. Stayed that way for a few years, and lemme tell ya, things with a partner improved. It can be done. I'd recommend putting everything far away, or hell, lock 'em in your office or something so you don't have access (this is like an AA meeting. Do you want me to be your sponsor?) And then--hands off! No ...balancing your portfolio, if you know what I mean. For a long time. Weeks, if you can. And then try again, w/o 'marital aids.' And keep at it. I'm much more responsive now with a partner (as my neighbors can attest when I get the infrequent opportunity!) and while some of that is my age (peak! peak!) a lot of it comes from being less buzz-y!

another idea: if you MUST use a toy (and really, try a few weeks w/o), then use it on the lowest possible setting and don't ratchet it up any higher. Try training yourself to sense the lightest sensations. That's all I can say w/o this devolving into something dirty.
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Old 03-02-2007, 10:19 PM   #61
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We're a minority of two!

I bought my girlfriend a "twin engine" vibrator (one motor in the middle for internal stimulation, and one motor externally as a clitoral stimulator. As she was catching her breath afterward she described the experience as "illegal in all 50 states". I do love being the "equipment operator"!

Regular ol' sex is good too, but there's just something about focusing on her enjoyment exclusively that's very rewarding to me.
"twin engine"? i feel like a damn caveman...i've yet to experiment with any toys. i needa play catch-up!
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And, as a related question, does masturbation of a single type (photographic, idealized) make one less responsive to other sensations?
I believe this might actually be true. Just as Violet has portrayed, overuse of one such performance of masturbation can risk all other sexual factors, in my opinion. If all you know is masturbating to pictures on the computer, or only a certain video, methinks it'd be hard to find orgasm elsewhere (or at least for a while).

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I got into the habit of pretty much using the vib all the time, and now I have a VERY difficult time making it happen without the vib. So my conclusion is that now my body is "dependent" on the vib. How the heck to I break out of that one?
I'll just reflect what Jes said in that, stop masturbating for a while, get used to not getting that pleasure at all, and then revisit the situation later (days, weeks, whatever...) without the use of a vibrator. See what that does for you. I think that might actually work, given the right amount of time without it. Or, just keep masturbating, only do not use a vibrator, and try to get off with just yourself. If you do not reach orgasm, that'd be okay, try again the next day. And so on and so forth.

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honestly, most of the time i prefer it over sex. and i'm positive that this fact alone puts me in yet another minority group.
I would not say that I prefer it over sex, but most of the time it's just pure pleasureful, especially when Erin volunteers herself for the job, which can put it at a higher risk of it wanting to be done. I look forward to Erin's monthly PMS routine, because then it's all about masturbation without feeling guilty. HOOAH

Oh, and obviously, I masturbate. *shrugs* No new news.

I must share how I first experienced it, because it is still a mystery as to exactly what it means.
I was never told "how" to masturbate, I just new it existed. I did not feel comfortable bringing it up to any of my family or my friends, so I just looked forward to "wet dreams", which were few and far between of course. Then, of course, with my raging hormones, I somehow found my way to Dimensions, and stumbled upon all these beautiful women and the fat life in general, and it was another world. A world I wanted to live in.
So, to make a very long story short, I admired all these fat people that I read about (men and women, of course), and realized that that was my sexual driving force (be it embarassing, different, strange, or whatever). I do not remember the first time I ever did this, but I remember getting together as many possible clothes as I could think of (dirty, clean, whatever), and even my blanket and my pillow covers, and I would put on a very large shirt and some baggy sweatpants and I would stuff the crap out of them.
I brung those clothes to their breaking point (of course, without breaking them), and I made sure to keep my blanket and pillow covers away from my genitalia (Yes, I was wearing underwear), and I would dance and jump around.

... I'm laughing at myself right now

Somehow, that got me off pretty well. I remember getting caught once by my Ex Step-Father. I just found a way to make that work, and it was really, really fun. But that brings the question, did I find myself as being a huge person (yes, with the stuffed clothing on, I was pretty enormous.. imagine a blanket, and 50+ articles of clothing stuffed in the sweatpants alone) erotic, or was the feeling alone what did it for me, or was it the feeling and the visual of a fat person (and wanting it to be a woman of course)? I'm not sure. I was too young to really realize anything.

And then I switched to socks and then to K.Y. Jelly, yadda yadda yadda.

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"twin engine"? i feel like a damn caveman...i've yet to experiment with any toys. i needa play catch-up!
Find an adult video store. There isn't a Lion's Den in D.C., but use the store locator on their website and maybe you'll find one near some family you may visit. There's one in PA, but it might be a couple hours or more away.

Go. Experiment. Bring your money. Quality toys cost anywhere from $35 on up. Ones with freaky, torture-device looking features run from $75 on up.
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Wow...this thread really..ummm...exploded while I was away from my computer!!!!! (need an elbowing smilie)

I have the Rabbit.I don't know if they are all the same, but this one has one control each for the ears and the shaft.There are three controls for 'direction'.It is ok, and the ears do not hurt, but I find that if I want just clitoral action, I want a regular old vibe.Even then, I find that while the orgasms are nice, they are rather 'shallow'.I do better if I fantasize and use natures lil sex toys. (using this one because it shows fingers..lol)

I have not really been all that frisky lately, so I will now and then 'make' myself do the deed.I decided it is something nice to do for oneself.Things have been very stressful, so I am having fewer days feeling that urge.

To the women(or men) who have found themselves not being able to climax without a toy,I would suggest not feeling upset about it and make yourself very comfortable and not even go for an orgasm.I have had times where I will be in bed and 'just' allow my fingertips to graze the insides of my arms, belly,hips and take the backs of my hands and notice the varying degrees of heat of the tops and then the inside of my thighs.Whatever body hair you have(male or female), be aware of the interesting terrain.Be aware of your surroundings..if you are nude, where does the air that is in your room hit you, and move your parts so that sensation changes...etc..etc..best stop before this gets too cheesy sounding.*L*

I think it might also be a good thing if those people who rely a little too much on videos and pictures could just say no to it for a while and see if how you relate to your own body..changes.

When I was around 13 or so, I remember I was looking at my 28 year old sisters copy of The Joy Of Sex.I was sitting, looking at the drawings and after a fairly short time(not touching myself..totally clothed) I crossed my legs..and..bam!*LOL* I would love to be able to experience something like that again.My brain was not so corrupted by 'shoulds'.

The next man I allow into my life is going to be one very lucky boy (but, no porn addicts allowed..ack)
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Randomly: can we give Angels snaps for the neologism (I can only assume) in the thread title? That I thought was a typo? Did somebody already do this and I missed it? Okay, back to the wanking. Sorry to interrupt flo!

p.s. Support your local sex-positive toy store! Good places to play! Yay!

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Not a bad subject to talk about.

I've slowly progressed upon autoerotic behavior, but I've never touched myself in that manner. I don't know what constitutes masturbation (since we all have opinions), but I do something autoerotic rather close to it, without any touching of the area or movement of my body (Besides the expulsion). To be blunt, I call it "Bursting."

When I was growing up, it was sort of hear-say that it was considered wrong. We are all humans though. I understand we have needs.

I use to think based on religion it was wrong. I never heard it mentioned in the churches I went to, however. Only a few years ago did I realize that the Catholic Church was the major faith that dissapproved of it. If I'm not mistaken, it has something to with procreation. No disrespect to Catholics, but I don't consider that to be a good reason to hate it.
I'm Baptist, however. The majority of the Protestant faith doesn't go against it.

For my own reasons I don't ever wish to use my hands in that area (besides washing, clipping, health, and urinating mind you ), but autoerotic behavior such as masturbation is ok in my book for everyone. I'm more deeply concerned with Christianity becoming synonymous with hatred of gays, fat people (That Bod4God dude is going to hear from my RoundHouse Kick ), et cetera et cetera...

So now I rest... I have a Tae Kwon Do test in the morning.
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Uhmmm, yeah!!!! Big FAN, BIG fan.

I actually have a crick in my neck from trying to catch a glimpse earlier. Eep.
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Old 03-03-2007, 01:11 AM   #68
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This is all so fascinating.

I've never gotten a toy to work for me - but to be fairness I've never really tried it myself, it's been other people using them. I didn't ever try masturbating until I was about 22-23 when a friend explained it to me.

I think I'm something of a late bloomer.
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I didn't realize there were so many people still hung up on masturbation.

I guess my Catholic upbringing didn't take.
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Oh..yeah...the first time I walked in on a boyfriend...and..he was not startled much..lol..and he smiled the sweetest smile and continued..slowed down...was hot AND sweet..oh!!
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So I went to the Harwich United Methodist Thrift Shop 2 weeks ago and there's 4 Vibrators lined up in the Kitchenware Dept.
My already confused and sketchy knowledge of methodists has now become horribly distorted on the subject of their eating habits.
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Okay, there are a lot of myths in this thread that need to be dispelled. Vibrators do NOT make you unable to climax in other ways. What happens is that you get used to the efficiency and speed with which you climax with a vibrator, and then give up more easily when you're doing it yourself, or letting a partner do it.

Check out what the Kinsey Institute for Sexuality (for those of you that don't recognize it, a VERY respected source) has to say about this:

http://www.indiana.edu/~kisiss/quest...gerous0703.htm

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With all that said, it is possible that using a vibrator might make someone prefer a vibrator over other forms of stimulation (e.g. masturbation with one's hand, manual stimulation from a partner, oral sex, intercourse) because for many women the vibrator is a more powerful and efficient means to an orgasm. But that's not the case for everyone. After all, there are a lot of benefits from other kinds of sex. A vibrator can never replace the touch, hugs, caresses or body warmth that come from being sexual with a partner - let alone the shared love, romance, passion or laughter. Many women enjoy varying the kinds of stimulation that they use for sexual pleasure or orgasm- sometimes they may want the stimulation of a vibrator, other times they may want the feel or oral sex, and still other times they may crave intercourse. It's very individual and no preference is "better" than the other. If it makes someone happy and doesn't hurt anyone else, why not explore?
Now, for my own personal experiences with masturbation. My parents divorced when I was two, and mom & I went to live with the grandparents. There was only one spare bedroom, so I shared a bedroom with my mother from the age of 2 until I moved out at 21. This, of course, means there was never any privacy for me, and I never got to explore my body the way other girls did. So I reached 21 without ever having an orgasm. There had been times when I had tried (when mom hadn't been home) but it had never happened for me. So at 21 I bought a vibrator.

The first one I bought was just pounding, and was WAY too much stimulation on my clitoris (mine's very sensitive - I can't handle direct contact very well). Finally I discovered the eroscillator (and no, I don't own stock in it). It works differently than other vibes. It's expensive as all hell (it was $50 cheaper when I first bought it, and I STILL found it expensive) but I would highly recommend it for any pre-orgasmic women out there who are reading this thread (as well as anyone who wants something way different than the usual vibe). This website tells you all about it: http://www.eroscillator.com/ , but I BELIEVE you can purchase it slightly less expensively elsewhere on the web.

They last a long time, too - the last one I had lasted seven years before I had to replace it. I have multiple orgasms each and every time I use this, and I have not ever gotten "less sensitive" in more than eight years of using it. It still takes me the same amount of time, on the same setting, as it did when I started. I have a vibe collection, but this is the "Maserati" of the collection, and the one I could not live without.

Hope this information helps someone. Happy masturbating!
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Okay, there are a lot of myths in this thread that need to be dispelled. Vibrators do NOT make you unable to climax in other ways. What happens is that you get used to the efficiency and speed with which you climax with a vibrator, and then give up more easily when you're doing it yourself, or letting a partner do it.




Maybe I am not paying close enough attention( it is late), but I got from other posters that they were saying exactly that.It is all about that pesky auto-pilot way of doing things.

edited to add:..I think I need to ask some nice man to buy me that vibe you spoke of in your post!!!!!
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That wasn't what I got. It sounded to me like some people were saying that the vibrator affected your physical ability to be aroused and come to climax in other ways, and that's just not true. I wanted to make sure that idea was dispelled, as there are plenty of other myths out there surrounding women's sexuality, and I want to dispel as many as possible.
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That wasn't what I got. It sounded to me like some people were saying that the vibrator affected your physical ability to be aroused and come to climax in other ways, and that's just not true. I wanted to make sure that idea was dispelled, as there are plenty of other myths out there surrounding women's sexuality, and I want to dispel as many as possible.
I do agree with the last part of that..about myths..oy! Like, I have heard that 'they' don't even know if all women HAVE G-spots..and..no..not all women have or can have or even want or need multiple orgasms...etc..etc..god its late..lol
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