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Old 07-27-2007, 04:11 PM   #26
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Circumcision during sex is a real turnoff, at least for me.
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I know a guy who got an infection, and he wasn't unhygienic at all! Then he got cut and everything was fine. But I think those are rare occasions, usually it "works" finde without being cut!
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You don't do anything with "it". It's a penis- you treat it the same as all others. Actually, they say the uncut are more "sensitive". You might just like that little something extra for all you know
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If you think about it, we as human beings are a very well designed species. If nature made it that way leave it alone. Remember the medical community is not always right. At one point in history they thought "bleeding" was the healthy thing to do for sick people. About 75 years ago the medical community thought everyone should have their tonsils removed. You know what they think of that today?
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:46 PM   #32
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In spite of my aesthetic preference I agree with you. I've never known anyone to have ANY problems with foreskins. So if it's not mandated by your religion it just seems kind of odd.


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I'm with you on this one. Circumcision is a tribal/biblical ritual and that is it. I do not believe it prevents disease.

As an American living in the UK, it is just one of many cultural differences that a lot of people don't realise. Before I met guys from the UK, I just assumed all penises looked the same...it's not like you see uncut boys in American porn, so I had NO idea, lol.

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Not to change the subject, but do people realise that there is a female circumcision still being practised today and those females are puberty age and they do it without any pain killers? Just food for thought.....
Isn't it amazing just HOW different the US and the UK are, in so many ways? You must see things all the time. We tend to think that as countries we are very alike but I think language is the main connection.

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That uncut guy I loved for sixteen years never gave me any infections- or had one. It's all bullshit the medical community pushes here in the US to get you to cut your baby boy's penis at birth (why in hell they feel so compelled to push it, I don't know). When I was pregnant with my first child, I didn't know the sex until she was born (I wouldnt let them tell me). The nurse had to talk to me about having the baby circumsized if it was a male. When I asked a few questions about the true necessity of having them splice and dice my baby, she spoke to me "off the record" and said that they were all supposed to really push for it- but that in the end, it's nothing that would really affect their life or lifestyles. If I had given birth to a male, I wouldn't have had it done.
That's what I had suspected, Caroline, and good on you that you wouldn't have gone for it after you heard the nurse's opinion.
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I've never had sex with an uncircumsised man. I think it would be weird. I messed around with one one, and it just felt like there was a lot of extra....stuff. I'll try anything once though
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Ive only played with cut, but a girlfriend of mine dated an uncut guy and she said that flap of skin was inconvient at times. If it got stretched or rubbed wrong in the condom.. ouchies.
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Foreskin is like an appendix; it has no real purpose other than becoming a potential medical problem down the road. No matter how many anti-circumcision types try and convince me that it's "mutilation," I just can't get angry about not having an extra flap of skin trapping bacteria around my wang. I'm glad to be rid of it.

Well, that's the thing about circumcision. It's done to you when you're a wee baby, so you literally don't know what you're missing.

Appendixes can burst, killing you, yet they aren't removed at birth. Odds are if it's part of your body, it's there for a reason. I can't attest to whether or not it increases sexual pleasure, seeing as during the period of my life when I had a forskin my primary concern was spitting up and trying to get my foot into my mouth.

Maybe it's not mutiliation, but it seems rather beyond the pale to go routinely lopping off body parts with scary looking implements on infants, without so much as a nod to pain killers, just because you can't immediately identify its purpose. If nothing else, this section of the male anatomy has provided our culture with a vast and profitable supply of circumcision jokes, not the least of which involves the traveling buisnessman who broke his favorite watch at a layover flight in Isreal.

As for hygiene, if you can't be bothered to wash your privates you've got bigger issues on your hands. If you're going to cut off every body part that doesn't serve a vital function and can develop infections, you might as well amputate the pinkies, slice off the ears, and proceed until what's left of the newborn has to be conveyed from the delivery room in a dixie cup.
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I like penises. If the guy attached is decent and also knowledgeable about his own member, then the sex is good whether the penis is cut or uncut.
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Rebecca, are there parts of the male anatomy you don't like?
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Rebecca, are there parts of the male anatomy you don't like?

Just a note: I could get snarky here, but I won't.

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Thanks for the lack of snarkiness. Didn't mean to offend.
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Thanks for the lack of snarkiness. Didn't mean to offend.
you didn't, but that question leads to answers like:

their mouths, you boys get too mouthy sometimes

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their fingers, keep your filthy hands to yourself.

ya know, snarky and not wholly serious answers.
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Ah, see Snarky had a very serious meaning in our household. If Mom got snarky, you had better run. Thus my apologizing to you as soon as possible!
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I'm finding a lot of the "as nature intended" arguments really funny. Evolution is a random, imperfect "luck of the draw." The only reason humans are constructed the way they are is because over the eons, those DNA sequences were the ones lucky enough to be passed on.

Let's face it, more people than not think that nature isn't good enough - this is why we have cosmetics products and plastic surgery. Human beings aren't a well-designed species; we, like every other animal on the face of the planet, are flawed and just hoping and praying that we can somehow manage to live long enough to pass these flaws on. Medical science, of course, has allowed a great deal of humans to survive far longer than they ever would have if we hairless primates were all just running around in the wild doing "as nature intended."

Circumcision may not be medically necessary, but as I said before, I just can't get angry about it. I have plenty of other more pressing things to be angry with my parents for. Yes, I might not know what I'm missing, but then again I can't be bothered to care either. I like the fact that I don't have to take an extra few seconds (or however long) in the shower to pull back a vestigial piece of skin for some special cleaning to ensure that I don't have a foul, smegma-encrusted penis. I like that women who have seen my penis have thought (perhaps not consciously) that, "hey, I wouldn't mind putting that in my mouth." I like that I don't have an extra skin flap that may get caught at an odd angle inside of a condom, perhaps rendering it less effective.

I can't say whether or not circumcision is right or wrong, but - hypothetically - if I were the type to get married and start reproducing, if I had a son, I'd have him clipped. I'd feel like I was doing him a favour. And while babies do feel pain, personal experience indicates to me that it won't be remembered.
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The fact that it isn't remembered doesn't make it less cruel. It's funny. Normally, when somebody tries to inflict large amounts of unnecessary pain on an infant, they are charged with with child abuse or sent into some special insitution. When a doctor does it, using a very scary-looking impliment resembling a cross between a manacle and a can-opener, he is paid an additional sum of money.

Is this really needed? Do I need to argue and counter-argue just to establish that inflicting extreme pain on babies is a bad thing?

I'm not asking you to get angry about it. I'm asking you to consider the issue, and not just automatically accept it. I think that the biggest reason circumcisions occur is because it's become normalized. Ask three different people and you'll get three different reasons for it.


As for the natural argument, there's a difference between cosmetic surgery and circumcision. For a start, the former is consentual. All of the changes we make to our bodies and our appearances are done for a clear reason, and most of them on a case-by-case basis, and the vast majority of them are reversable. You can stop shaving your legs and let the hair grow back. You take of clothes. You can cease using electric appliances. The same is not true of the tip of your dick.

As for the "bigger issues" argument, there will always be bigger issues. The existance of more serious matters, like female genital mutilation, doesn't make male infant circumcision insignificant any more than the existance of genocide in darfur causes racial profiling in LA to become a non-issue.



If you do decide to get a boy circumcised, please, insist that the physicians apply some local anesthesia first.
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I think...I may have...thrown up a little in my mouth when I read that. Oh my...excuse me!

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You may be just right on with that one! ........NOT! LOL The last thing I think about when meeting a man is wether I might be wanting to put his penis in my mouth or not! ROFL You are too funny! I actually think that everything else you said was pretty accurate though and I myself much prefer circumsized.
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I'm asking you to consider the issue, and not just automatically accept it.
I have considered the issue. I don't automatically accept anything. Just so we're clear on that.

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The same is not true of the tip of your dick.
I have to pipe up here on a point of technicality: a circumcision removes only the foreskin, not the glans of the penis. The glans is the tip; foreskin merely wraps around the tip but in of itself is not part of it.
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The last thing I think about when meeting a man is wether I might be wanting to put his penis in my mouth or not!

Oh, sure...destroy my fantasy!

In all honestly, that part came from my girlfriend telling me that she was very happy when she first saw me naked that a.) I was circumcised and b.) I didn't have a hairy back. I may be going out on a limb, but I think she may have had a bad experience with both aforementioned items.
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Of course, if we're putting both of those items on the same level, hairy backs never hurt anyone and no one's suggested removing the hair folicles from the backs of infants to keep the masses happy.

Just a point though. I think all we're finding is that this is very much a matter of preference. IF the guy is fine with being uncut (and can put up with the hygiene) and IF the girl is fine with it being uncut, then we're fine.

Did anybody see the episode of ER where a boyfriend came in, having tried to circumcise himself? His reason why was priceless

"Yeah, well my girlfriend took a look at, well, it, and, she said that it just didn't cut it."
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