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Old 10-28-2007, 05:33 AM   #1
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I've recently cancelled my membership of a couple of my favorite sites whose owners seem to think that it's more lucrative to post their clips on clips4sale than update their own sites as promised on their joining pages.

I don't like clips4sale, it's just another porn site which does nothing for the size acceptance movement and I really don't think it's in the spirit of this board to advertise it here.

I'd be interested to know what other people think.
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:48 AM   #2
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Do you not like the clips4sale site because its taking away from the girls regular site? Or are you just in general not a fan of ? The clips4sale site offers only videos which for a lot of subscribers seem to be what they want most. If the person who you normally subscribe to their site kept up on their updates do you think you would have a problem with the other site?
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:54 AM   #3
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Fine, I will take the bait.

Size Acceptance is in the eye of the beholder. Fat chicks should be able to sell themselves, their image, their sex as they see fit, just like thin chicks. That is putting it simply....but Size Acceptance is about equality in all areas.

As for the "spirit" of the board.....Dimensions started as a publication directed at straight, fat loving men....and the paysite board has always been a part of Dimensions online.

Selling clips on clips for sale is a nice way to make longer higher quality videos (as you so suggested that I do in your last post). Most paysites are connected to servers which the bbw does not own and has no control over file size limits. Because of that, I have considered selling extra videos. I would still make the shorter ones for my website, but what if I want a 10 minute long video of high quality? I won't be able to upload it and I am not going to give it away for free....so clips4sale would allow me to do that.

Clips for sale is also an opportunity for guys who do not wish to join paysites to pay for a clip and be done with it, without worrying about billing etc.

This is just my opinion, but as long as the models are still putting up good quality pics and some videos on their site....I see no harm in make a little cash on the side....and yes, it can be about the money.
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:39 AM   #4
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The issue I have is with a couple of site I was a member of who promised regular video updates which didn't materialize once the owners started posting on clips4sale. And no, I don't want to say which sites they were.

If I become a member of a site of a lady I like then I expect them to honor their committment made at the time of joining.

Also, it's nice to see the hard work the person puts into their site rather than just uploading clips to clips4sale.
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:45 AM   #5
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I'm not a fan of that myself...especially the prices.


15-20 bucks for ONE clip? I could understand if it was 15-20 for access to ALL of the clips....but for each? You might as well join the site if you're going to pay that much.
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Old 10-28-2007, 07:12 AM   #6
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I can completely understand your complaint. That is why I personally try to make sure that I have at least one new video with every update on my site, and I do believe that we should not neglect our fans who have long been looking at our paysite and supporting us. That being said, I love clips4sale, and let me explain why: 1. I have just as many clips for sale fans as I do fans of my site. I get emails from them and requests from them just as frequently. 2. It has almost doubled my income from modelling. 3. It's easy- taking 40+ photos and videos can be fin, too, but it also exhausting. 4. It's fun- It is more relaxed, I don't feel the need to be as "perfect" and I get to fun things like eat, while in my pajamas. I hope that by understanding this, you will please stop advocating that Dimensions not let us post our clips4sale updates here, because there are many FAs who enjoy them and alot of my web traffic, both on BBW PINUPS and my CLIPS4SALE store come from dimensions. Thanks for listening

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Old 10-28-2007, 09:53 AM   #7
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The issue I have is with a couple of site I was a member of who promised regular video updates which didn't materialize once the owners started posting on clips4sale. And no, I don't want to say which sites they were.

If I become a member of a site of a lady I like then I expect them to honor their committment made at the time of joining.

Also, it's nice to see the hard work the person puts into their site rather than just uploading clips to clips4sale.
I woulnt ask you to give out the name of the girl whose site you blonged to. I feel that if the girl was neglecting her paysite for the clips4sale site then yeah I can understand your complaint. You pay for a memebership and want regular updates as promised. But, my question was if she was to keep up on her first site, the one you were a member to, and then posted on clips4sale as well, would it still bother you hun?
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:20 AM   #8
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I'm not a fan of that myself...especially the prices.


15-20 bucks for ONE clip? I could understand if it was 15-20 for access to ALL of the clips....but for each? You might as well join the site if you're going to pay that much.
hell some full videos are cheaper than that. no wonder bootlegging is common as hell. peeps on the street is selling it cheaper.

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Old 10-28-2007, 11:24 AM   #9
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I'm always on the lookout for stuck videos, but I'd be disappointed if the video was a Clips4Sale exclusive and not available on a BBW's site because given the two options I'd rather support the BBW by joining her site.

Really I think the important issue here is the lack of stuck videos on Clips4Sale. :)
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:41 AM   #10
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Well, Clips4Sale is a nice supplement to website income for sure, and it seems like a lot of girls are going that route.
As for me, all my clips4sale vids end up on my website eventually, except I have to cut them up into smaller pieces. There's no way I'm putting a 20 minute video up on my website. I know about those bootleg guys and pass traders.
They ain't rapin' my ass! lol
I guess whether you buy from Clips4sale vs waiting for the content to be added to a website, depends on how much you want the whole video, and how fast.
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I have a website and a C4S site because I want to be able to offer everyone an option. Alot of my fans prefer to just buy the video they like most of mine then I have fans who would rather join my site. I update my site at least weekly and my C4S thoughout the mth. I think if you can't do both then don't offer both, I see your point of view totally. When you join a site you expect to get what's promised in the free tour and you should. It's like any other site adult or not.........if your paying for it you expect to get what you pay for.
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The issue I have is with a couple of site I was a member of who promised regular video updates which didn't materialize once the owners started posting on clips4sale. And no, I don't want to say which sites they were.

If I become a member of a site of a lady I like then I expect them to honor their committment made at the time of joining.

Also, it's nice to see the hard work the person puts into their site rather than just uploading clips to clips4sale.

Your gripe has nothing to do with clips4sale and whether or not it promotes size acceptance. The site is not designed for that. It's a platform for girls to target a different audience with the content they produce by selling to those who prefer NOT to pay for a membership to a site. You should email the site owner directly and voice your disappointment in their choice to not update the member content as promised. If they are only offering you upsells to their clips after they promised you updates well I can understand feeling slighted. I can honestly understand paying for membership and feeling slighted if it promises updates and you are not getting them.

Please do not knock clips4sale and the girls who choose to use them. What you experienced has to do with an individual and them not living up to their end of the bargain of their paysite. Canceling membership is how you as a consumer exercise your disappointment or satisfaction with a particular site. Dissatisified? Don't give them any more of your money. When canceling you can give reasons why you have canceled and you can also communicate with the site owner. A lot of people don't seem to do this. Let them know why they are losing members, if they are ethical then they will care about what their members say and maybe stop trying to offer a site below par.
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hell some full videos are cheaper than that. no wonder bootlegging is common as hell. peeps on the street is selling it cheaper.

There are a lot of people who are very willing to pay upwards $15-$20 per clip because 90% of it is fetish oriented for specific niches. People with fetishes will always splurge for stuff they want, produced the way they like.
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I have no opinion on this issue but I have to say...
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As for the "spirit" of the board.....Dimensions started as a publication directed at straight, fat loving men....and the paysite board has always been a part of Dimensions online.
No, it actually has not. Dims online was without a paysite board longer than it's had one. The paysite board has been a newer development, brought on by fighting and by the influx or more paysites advertising on the Weight Board. Before that it was almost always just women posting pictures of themselves without involvement of a paysite board.

One thing I love, though, is that the men who used to shudder, loudly, at men posting pics of themselves now just have to put up with it. Too bad! Us women like male eye candy, too.
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I have no opinion on this issue but I have to say...

No, it actually has not. Dims online was without a paysite board longer than it's had one. The paysite board has been a newer development, brought on by fighting and by the influx or more paysites advertising on the Weight Board. Before that it was almost always just women posting pictures of themselves without involvement of a paysite board.

One thing I love, though, is that the men who used to shudder, loudly, at men posting pics of themselves now just have to put up with it. Too bad! Us women like male eye candy, too.
My appologies then. When I started coming onto Dims years ago in the other format, there was a paysite board. That's what I was going on.

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There are a lot of people who are very willing to pay upwards $15-$20 per clip because 90% of it is fetish oriented for specific niches. People with fetishes will always splurge for stuff they want, produced the way they like.
and there are bootleggers on the street selling it for good deals not that im a huge supporter of that.

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Don't throw stones

But I think clips4sale is great for girls who have decided memberships on their sites aren't up to snuff and want to earn some extra, quick money.

Some girls have decided not to do full time sites and get into videos, because many of their fanbase prefer videos only.

But, I think that girls that have successful sites with a good member base would be better to not split their members up or give them the choice to chose where to find their videos. Because I think that it does just that, it splits the crowd and if you lose a website member who is a recurring billed customer to a random clip purchaser, I think you've done yourself a monetary disservice as a model overall.

Nicole and many other fat girl models I know have put their member sites on the back burner and have went full hardcore into fetish bbw clips and it works for them, girls with full time sites and regular updates, should stick to that if it's working for them.

I could open a clips4sale site and many bigcuties could too, I don't think it would overall generate more income over time I think it would be a loss or maybe even, but more time would be invested, so hence still a loss.

I guess it's really what your personal choice is, I don't knock the site, I think it does a service that's well needed and I think some girls do really well there and I think that's great. In the spirit of size acceptance and sites vs. pay per click video sales - I think it's the difference between six and one half dozen. If I see fat girls being sexy and shaking what their momma gave them, it's all good in the realm of feeling good about their fat bodies enough to share it with the world, which in turn to me means.. viva la fat - good size acceptance even if not viewed as such to the naked eye.

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Don't throw stones

But I think clips4sale is great for girls who have decided memberships on their sites aren't up to snuff and want to earn some extra, quick money.

Some girls have decided not to do full time sites and get into videos, because many of their fanbase prefer videos only.

But, I think that girls that have successful sites with a good member base would be better to not split their members up or give them the choice to chose where to find their videos. Because I think that it does just that, it splits the crowd and if you lose a website member who is a recurring billed customer to a random clip purchaser, I think you've done yourself a monetary disservice as a model overall.

Nicole and many other fat girl models I know have put their member sites on the back burner and have went full hardcore into fetish bbw clips and it works for them, girls with full time sites and regular updates, should stick to that if it's working for them.

I could open a clips4sale site and many bigcuties could too, I don't think it would overall generate more income over time I think it would be a loss or maybe even, but more time would be invested, so hence still a loss.

I guess it's really what your personal choice is, I don't knock the site, I think it does a service that's well needed and I think some girls do really well there and I think that's great. In the spirit of size acceptance and sites vs. pay per click video sales - I think it's the difference between six and one half dozen. If I see fat girls being sexy and shaking what their momma gave them, it's all good in the realm of feeling good about their fat bodies enough to share it with the world, which in turn to me means.. viva la fat - good size acceptance even if not viewed as such to the naked eye.

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