Want to see something completely appalling?

[furious styles]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sEnKH-tL5CM

This is a clip from the movie Good Luck Chuck with Dane Cook and Jessica Alba. I heard about this from a friend, luckily I didn't have to pay anything to watch any of this movie (which I heard was total garbage anyway) but christ allmighty. I was essentially speechless for a couple of minutes. This left me so full of rage that if I saw Dane right now I would knock his fucking block off. This is the kind of garbage that slips into a Hollywood movie every few months or so, some "lol fat chick" scene that's essentially degrading and total B.S, but this is THE WORST example of it I have ever seen. And yet no one is up in arms over it. Because it's "okay" to make those jokes.

The funny thing is, I liked Dane Cook. I've watched a bunch of his stand up and found it hilarious. And now he's ruined it for me. It's going to be very hard to ever watch him again without thinking about this crap, and I doubt I'd ever support him again.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I think if you willingly watch the movie "Good Luck Chuck" you deserve whatever you get.

[Red]

I only really recognise Jessica Alba. This film just screams 'generic American teen movie' to me. They always seem to feature an 'ugly fat girl' being made fun of, the 'black dude' who smokes weed, the 'chunky but lovable' male, best friend of the leading actor and lets not forget the 'gorgeous' female lead who's main flaw is being cute and clumsy. I can't see why anyone would actually pay money to see this film. Give me a film that makes me cry, or a film that makes me think, I mean really think, as in walk out of the cinema in a daze of distraction. Cinema should be about immersing yourself into mystery and fantasy, with a plot that is worth following. Films like 'Good luck Chuck' make me angry, embarrassed and nauseous all at the same time. They are a waste of my time and a waste of £7.00

[Caligula]

lol you have to admit that "Im gunna fuck you till you die" is a funny thing to hear and than the warts and stuff on her back is nasty as all. I dont think that it is dane cooks fault. Blame society.

[Red]

Originally Posted by Caligula

lol you have to admit that "Im gunna fuck you till you die" is a funny thing to hear and than the warts and stuff on her back is nasty as all. I dont think that it is dane cooks fault. Blame society.

Dane Cook cashed a big fat cheque to be in that film, so yes in my eyes he's a twat and as responsible as the rest of them.

[FatAndProud]

yes......................

[liz (di-va)]

That's just freakin awful . And OF COURSE THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THE MOVIE are responsible for, duh, making the movie! What the hell does "blame society" mean? I didn't realize this was a zero-sum situation.

It's *not* meaningless to examine how movies like this take on fat sexuality--it has a lot more to do with how 18-y-os view things than anything else. And I guess they thing fat women eat with food falling out of their mouth and are covered in skin problems.

Man, that just made me heartsick. Fuck them. It's the worst of conventional stereotypes about fat women's sexuality/hungers all in one embarrassing, disgusting package.

[Aurora]

I love Dane Cook, and seeing this thread makes me not want to click on the youtube clip or watch the movie. I'm gonna force myself to walk away. It's hard.

[MissStacie]

This movie is poking fun at us...stereotyping. Listen, I'll be honest,. I actually auditioned to BE that fat girl....had the script/scenes sent to me and everything. Hell, I'm an actress, so it was just a part to me. I thought that it had great potential, and it is a CHARACTER that we play, not how we are as people.

There is no doubt that the girl in the film conducts herself and takes better care of herself than what her CHARACTER does in the film (yeah, the moles/warts were a bit much), but quite honestly, when she says to him "I'm gonna fuck you til you DIE!"...I laughed out loud...But, really, he could have been with a hooker, a leper, a pathetically skinny dorky woman, or someone who was just downright unfortunate, facially.

So, they picked a fat girl., so what? We have to get over ourselves, people...this is ENTERTAINMENT, and the movie is mind candy, fluff, and well, it is what it is. My thought about doing this was to get us fatties OUT THERE. The more of us that infiltrate Hollywood and the media, showing that we are NOT the behemoth sloths that are often portrayed, the better off we are. I know that there were a lot of people against the casting agency that posted here, but we really should look at it as a positive stance, getting us in the public eye and SEEN, HEARD, and LOVED.

BTW..I also loved Shallow Hal....lol

[Tina]

I won't watch it because I'm in a screwed up mood as it is, but given that I cannot stand Dane Cook, and never could see the attraction to this idiot, eh. Not surprising.

[FaxMachine1234]

In advance defense of the general media (not the movie tho), many of the reviews I read of the flick pointed out how offensive that part was to fat people, so at least the press isn't 100% clueless all the time.

[Tina]

That's really good to hear, Ekim. Thanks for letting us know that.

[Zoom]

I don't think it was all that offensive. First, the woman doesn't seem to be meant to represent fat people just because she IS fat. Second, the man seems to be trying to be polite with this "date gone wrong"; although he is clearly not attracted to her, he is willing to go through with "the nasty". Of course, the clip does not show the reasons for his going on this date (did he lose a bet?), so I may be wrong.

Edit: Obviously, though, if we had more movies with larger women "getting it on" with guys, it would be nice. Otherwise it seems like criticizing Star Wars in 1977 because it didn't have any black actors in it.

[GWARrior]

My computer hates youtube, so i cant see it, but something tells me its gonna make me mad at Dane Cook. i dont wanna be mad at Dane Cook. hes too cute!!!

[Surlysomething]

When I saw it I thought..."wow, they sure nailed white trash well"

Haha.

I wasn't offended by it personally. Mind you, I don't have those nasty blemishes on my back. I think she was just a repulsive person, sort of like that woman in Kingpin, you know, the landlady -heh-. Whereas, Shallow Hall was MOST DEFINITELY making fun of over-weight people.

[Jack Skellington]

Her table etiquette needs work.

[Russell Williams]

Suppose the female had been thin and Asian or Africian American and every thing else had been the same. Would there have been any difference in the responses of people on this board or in society at large?

Maybe yes, maybe no. I do not know but I consider it to be an interesting question.

Russell Williams
Activist

[mango]

I may have laughed at afew of Dane Cook's stand up jokes over the last few years, but he ALWAYS came across as being a bit of a dickhead.

This is just more 'fat bashing' to add to the pile.

[Knyghtmare]

Apparently all of us gross fat people aren't clean either.

[Surlysomething]

Originally Posted by Russell Williams

Suppose the female had been thin and Asian or Africian American and every thing else had been the same. Would there have been any difference in the responses of people on this board or in society at large?

Maybe yes, maybe no. I do not know but I consider it to be an interesting question.

Russell Williams
Activist

Well, if she was thin, Asian or African American and eating like a pig and talking with a foul mouth and had that kind of back acne, i'd think she was repulsive too.

[SoVerySoft]

Is that how I look when I eat a giant lobster? I've always wondered.

lol

[daddyoh70]

I watched about 20 minutes of Dane Cook's stand up, I'm still waiting for the punch line. Maybe it's just me, but I never found anything he's done funny

[Caligula]

Originally Posted by Red

Dane Cook cashed a big fat cheque to be in that film, so yes in my eyes he's a twat and as responsible as the rest of them.

Sure, but how many movies out there have an actor or actress invoved in a steryotypical view? Sure it may offend, but to blame Dane Cook for one scene that got some cheep laughs, get off it. If you get rilled up about every little thing out there.......

[Caligula]

Originally Posted by liz (di-va)

What the hell does "blame society" mean? .

*sigh* Well, my friend, if society didn't find those things funny an perpetuate the steryotype than perhaps it wouldn't be included in the movie for the easy laughs. *shrug*

[Red]

Originally Posted by Caligula

If you get rilled up about every little thing out there.......

...things might just start to change? Possibly. It's very easy to follow the media norm but going against it can turn a person into a bit of a social leper. I wont support a film or any 'popular' comedian just because they are admired by the cool kids. If an actor reads a script, takes the fee and happily moves on expecting to get away with it, just because 'it's funny' then they need a kick into reality. Well, Hollywood in general needs a kick into reality but that's a whole other thread.