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Old 01-12-2008, 07:52 AM   #1
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This was posted in a Yahoo group I belong to. Does Air Canada fly from Boston to Vegas? LOL.
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Regulator orders airlines to drop extra charges for disabled passengers *

By Bruce Cheadle, The Canadian Press

OTTAWA - Canada's major air carriers have been found to be
discriminating against disabled persons and ordered to provide the same
fares to all passengers, including those who require two seats.

The ruling released Thursday by the Canadian Transportation Agency gives
Air Canada, Air Canada Jazz and WestJet one year to bring in a
"one-person, one-fare" policy.

"Canadians with disabilities are celebrating today," said Pat Danforth
of the Council of Canadians with Disabilities, which helped launch the
complaint in 2002 along with two individuals.

The decision applies to disabled people, including the severely obese,
who require extra space on aircraft to accommodate them. It also applies
to disabled persons who need an attendant seated with them on flights.

Current airline pricing practices, said the report, "represent an
economic disadvantage which effectively limits travel opportunities in
respect of employment, education, leisure, medical care and emergencies
available to these persons."

The agency estimates the new policy will cost Air Canada about $7
million a year, and WestJet about $1.5 million a year. That amounts to
about 77 cents a ticket for Air Canada and 44 cents for WestJet.

That's a fraction of the cost estimated by the airlines in their
submissions to the agency.

WestJet was to respond to the ruling late Thursday on its website and
Air Canada said in a release it was examining the decision before giving
a detailed response.

"It is the policy of Air Canada to conduct its business at all times in
full compliance with all applicable laws and regulations, " said the
airline.

The Council of Canadians with Disabilities argued the extra charges are
discriminatory, citing numerous court decisions to back their case.

In an exhaustive 179-page report, a two-member agency panel concurred.

The panel said the extra cost and operational constraints to the
airlines would not constitute undue hardship. It said the current
practice effectively limits travel opportunities for the disabled.

"We hope this decision sends a strong message to all transportation
carriers," said Joanne Neubauer, the Victoria woman who helped launch
the complaint. "Access is the rule."

Neubauer, 56, has severe rheumatoid arthritis and requires a wheelchair
and crutches for mobility.

The ruling's 12-month grace period will give air carriers a chance to
augment and fine-tune their current mechanisms for determining which
passengers are disabled and require assistance.

"It's not a personal preference (of the traveller)," said Jadrino Huot,
a spokesman for the agency.

"It's not a matter of discomfort. It's a matter of need."

The ruling applies only to the named air carriers, but the transport
agency said it sets a precedent if complaints from travellers are lodged
against other carriers such as charter airlines.

Many other transportation carriers, including buses, trains and ferries,
have had one-person, one-fare policies for some time.
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Old 01-12-2008, 08:19 AM   #2
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Hope the US follows suit.
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Oh, gawd. 77 cents more for equality? That's 75 cents American, btw. The market could never absorb that kind of price increase.

Shesh. Just proves how very hard it is to accommodate fat people and make a profit.
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Okay, seriously, I want to shed tears of joy over this. I have been waiting SO long to see any sign of sanity in regards to the airline industry. Apparently, one just needs to move to Canada to find it!
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Okay, seriously, I want to shed tears of joy over this. I have been waiting SO long to see any sign of sanity in regards to the airline industry. Apparently, one just needs to move to Canada to find it!
I threaten to move to Canada about once a week. It seems saner in regards to A LOT there.
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I threaten to move to Canada about once a week. It seems saner in regards to A LOT there.

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Oh, gawd. 77 cents more for equality? That's 75 cents American, btw. The market could never absorb that kind of price increase.

Shesh. Just proves how very hard it is to accommodate fat people and make a profit.
When I launch my airline, my policy will be the Orwellian, "Well, we're all equal here, but some are MORE equal than others."
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77 cents? 44 cents? Don't you realize that this will make ticket prices unaffordable to all but the super rich?

You all are heartless bastards. As much as we'd all like for every activity to be inclusive, it's simply economically unfeasable. Now nobody's going to be able to afford to fly, and the airlines are going to go out of business, resulting in the loss of thousands of jobs.

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[QUOTE=SuperMishe;662767]This was posted in a Yahoo group I belong to. Does Air Canada fly from Boston to Vegas? LOL.

There is a actually a treaty in place, which essentially says Canadian airlines cannot fly destination to destination within the US, and vice versa for american airlines in Canada. So you could, in theory, take Air Canada from Boston to Toronto, then Toronto to Las Vegas, but I think you'd actually have to book it as two separate flights--Air Canada cannot legally book you "Boston to Las Vegas." So it would probably be expensive, and you'd have to go through customs twice, and Canadian airlines tend to be more expensive than american ones anyway for a variety of market and regulatory reasons....net, you could check it out, but you might still be better off buying two seats for the direct flight.

But if you do check it out, let us know how it compares!
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a question: for those of you who can't fit into a seat, how do you feel about being termed disabled? Is it simply a case of your bottom line (oh, how I craft my words!) or do you think this has implications for you, psychologically or in other ways? Know what I'm getting at?
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a question: for those of you who can't fit into a seat, how do you feel about being termed disabled? Is it simply a case of your bottom line (oh, how I craft my words!) or do you think this has implications for you, psychologically or in other ways? Know what I'm getting at?
For me, it's definately "bottom line". We're all labeled at some point in time so if this label get's me to where I want to go at half the price, I'll take it.
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