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Old 05-06-2008, 04:13 PM   #1
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Is it possible to binge until your stomach literally explodes? This is just a question, please nobody try it!!
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Yes, this is completely possible. It has happened several times in recorded history. However, it requires an ENORMOUS amount of food being consumed, and is very difficult to do, I would assume.

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Old 05-06-2008, 05:51 PM   #3
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The pop rocks and soda mythbusters episode comes to mind on this one....


* cringes from the thought of abdominal pain of that magnitude *

didn't some historical figure (king? nobility?) die a horribly painful (and slow) death from this situation?
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There is a very common cautionary tale passed around in the eating disorder recovery community about a very long-term bulimic who during a binge had a gastric rupture. Died. There are pictures. You don't want to see them.

So yeah, it's rare but possible.
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Aye, but keep in mind the key element of bulemia (the purge) inherently damages the lining of the stomach and throat.

I would think it actually easiest to accomplish in a person with a relatively small normal appetite, and either a heavy sedation to pain or a ravenous, drug induced hunger that caused them to miss the painfully full sensation or simply eat too fast to trigger it.

Either way, yeah, the stomach's a muscle, it can't expand indefinitely, and if you try to stretch it too far, it'll rip.
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Someone, please tell me why exactly I felt compelled to click on this thread...**Shudders and runs away screaming**
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A good rule of thumb is the average, healthy human stomach can hold a little over a gallon safely. You can hold more with practice, less if you've been starved for an extended period, and there are plenty of biological safeguards that will keep any but the most dedicated of people from even approaching their limits. There's an old salon.com article still available at http://www.salon.com/health/col/roac/1999/12/03/roach/ that's pretty readable, has some good, verifiable examples; and goes into detail about just this subject I think you'll find fascinating.

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After some consideration it seems to me that to get a result visually resembling an, "explosion" you'd have to do more than just rupture the stomach. You'd have to pressurize it first, and probably with something that packs more punch than some pop rocks and soda. Maybe if you got someone to fill the stomach to capacity with soda before much of the fizz had gone out of it, maybe.
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Ah, ah, ah! This is a no negativity board.

Totmacher, I honestly didn't mean anything negative by what I said though I see how it could be read that way..It's just that the thought of an exploding stomach is terrifying to me and I shouldn't have clicked on this thread in the first place.You're right though..I should have kept my fears to myself.
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Having on two occasions chugged a two-liter bottle of (diet) soda mostly to see if I could (and also to see if it would have any noticeable effect on the apparent size of my stomach. Verdict: not really.), I can safely say it went better and hurt less when I shook out the carbonation on the second run before drinking it all. And even then, I had to take it in waves.
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I thought the pop-rocks/soda thing only worked if you happened to eat a bunch of baking soda, too?


I would think if you ate a bunch you'd just trigger your gag reflex and puke it back up, the way babies spit up when they've had too much milk. No?
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Having on two occasions chugged a two-liter bottle of (diet) soda mostly to see if I could (and also to see if it would have any noticeable effect on the apparent size of my stomach. Verdict: not really.), I can safely say it went better and hurt less when I shook out the carbonation on the second run before drinking it all. And even then, I had to take it in waves.
Ewww, diet! Seriously though, while the carbonation would help generate more pressure I don't know if it would be enough. To get the stomach to fail catastrophically in an explosion-type scenario you'd not only need pressure, but you'd also need to introduce it quite rapidly, otherwise you would just get a tear.

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I don't have any numbers or references to back this up, but my experience with backing soda is that wouldn't really help that much. There just isn't enough gas in pop rocks, soda, and the amount of baking soda you'd have enough acid in to react for your to rupture anything. The only way I can see it working would be if you had already filled the stomach to capacity.
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A babies' gag reflex relies on the esophagus (Wow, I haven't used that word in, like, ever!) being short enough that the extra milk doesn't get very far before it finds it has nowhere to go. A human's esophagus is much longer, so that benefit tends not to exist if the human is in an upright position, particularly in the case of solid food. Liquid, on the other hand...

I was extremely hot and thirsty one day back in middle school. I came home and grabbed a quart of gatorade and chugged it and then went and lay down. I could feel the gatorade pooling its way back up my esophagus. Liquids don't have much substance for the esophagus to squeeze downwards, and so they can come back up more easily. Solid food? not so much. If the stomach gets full of solids, it gets kept there unless vomiting is induced.
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I don't have any numbers or references to back this up, but my experience with backing soda is that wouldn't really help that much. There just isn't enough gas in pop rocks, soda, and the amount of baking soda you'd have enough acid in to react for your to rupture anything. The only way I can see it working would be if you had already filled the stomach to capacity.
Down a number of pop rocks and introduce a highly carbonated soda (Sierra Mist, for instance) via tube feeding methods?
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The pop rocks and soda mythbusters episode comes to mind on this one....


* cringes from the thought of abdominal pain of that magnitude *

didn't some historical figure (king? nobility?) die a horribly painful (and slow) death from this situation?
whoa whoa....

Mythbusters did a pop rock/coke episode?!

I really hope youtube has something on this one....
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Ever hear of Prader-Willi Syndrome? Its a compulsive eating disorder that untreated can lead to just suich an end. CSI even did an episode based on it.
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whoa whoa....

Mythbusters did a pop rock/coke episode?!

I really hope youtube has something on this one....


Yeah, they used pigs stomachs and it was ULTRA GEEKY AWESOME!



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OK - just to add credibility to this discussion, here's a 2007 paper on the subject:

Gastric Rupture and Necrosis in Prader-Willi Syndrome.

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