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Old 11-18-2009, 12:25 PM   #76
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What do you think? Would you move any of those circles to overlap more or less?
Not necessarily. Their proper placement is anyone's guess, really. But I'd say that the admiration ring should be a lot larger, and the acceptance ring a lot smaller, if we're going by how many people subscribe to either ring. (This is taking in closeted admiration, of course.)
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Old 11-18-2009, 12:33 PM   #77
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Not necessarily. Their proper placement is anyone's guess, really. But I'd say that the admiration ring should be a lot larger, and the acceptance ring a lot smaller, if we're going by how many people subscribe to either ring. (This is taking in closeted admiration, of course.)
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:37 PM   #78
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Here's a question;
Besides being or not being a private part... What is the real difference between a guy's breast 'fetish' and a guy's fat fetish?

I can't really think of any glaring differences...
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:18 AM   #79
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Here's a question;
Besides being or not being a private part... What is the real difference between a guy's breast 'fetish' and a guy's fat fetish?

I can't really think of any glaring differences...
Nipples?
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Not necessarily. Their proper placement is anyone's guess, really. But I'd say that the admiration ring should be a lot larger, and the acceptance ring a lot smaller, if we're going by how many people subscribe to either ring. (This is taking in closeted admiration, of course.)
Agreed. I only have two of the three mentioned, and they don't quite overlap. I'd say it's relative.
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Depends if its innie or outtie
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But let's not confuse the sexuality of fat people with the sexuality of "those who admire them." They don't always intersect.

As far as I'm concerned, where the interests of "those who admire" fat people do not actually further the interests of fat people, they should not be considered within SA's reach.

When we talk about SA, we aren't talking about the civil or political rights of fat fetishists or even of Fat Admirers as a group, just to be clear. Those are separate movements that may or may not have things in common with SA.

When we talk about SA, we're talking about Size Acceptance.

Let's be clear.

Not to split hairs here, is it possible that a fat admirer could be sympathetic to size acceptance? Are you suggesting that a fat admirer has no place in a size acceptance movement? Size acceptance is a civil rights movement and fat admirations is ???????
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:40 PM   #83
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I think Fasc is spot on regarding of the sexuality of fat people not typically having much or anything to do with the sexuality of the people that are attracted to fat people. The two categories are, in the most part, quite distinct and uncorrelated in my opinion.

Fat admiration is quite simply an aesthetic for fat people that ranges across a continuum of intensity from preference all the way to orientation.

What fat admirer's do, regarding their aesthetic has the potential to be both positive or negative for size acceptance IMO. There's a good chance it can be positive if they conduct their relationships openly and respectfully. Thats my two pence on it all anyway.

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Not to split hairs here, is it possible that a fat admirer could be sympathetic to size acceptance? Are you suggesting that a fat admirer has no place in a size acceptance movement? Size acceptance is a civil rights movement and fat admirations is ???????
However, that is assuming that size acceptance and fat admiration can't go hand in hand.

If a person's preference motivates them to support a civil rights movement group that supports the group of people that person prefers, isn't that a good thing?

Can a Fa be sympathetic to the SA? Of course.
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I might actually go so far in the opposite direction of the myth as to say that so-called "fat admirers" (never will I accept that phrase, but I know, that's what we're using here), particularly those who are not themselves full-figured, could actually benefit the size-acceptance movement just as much as individuals who are full-figured. I was even going to write "more," but comparisons are difficult.

Society is so oppressive, and the media so vicious, against people of size that it's hard for that brainwashing not to seep in and destroy their self-esteem. Thus, when people of size attempt to fight for size-acceptance, they are sometimes, perhaps often, hobbled by lingering traces of self-doubt, possibly even deeply internalized self-loathing that societal pressures have drilled into them. How often does one see full-figured celebrities seemingly needed to "justify" or "excuse" their size, by saying, "Well, but I exercise constantly," or "But I'm healthy -- I run marathons." Things like that. Those are of course wonderful pursuits, of course, but the very fact that those things need to be said often seems like a defensive measure.

But FAs can be free of this (well, unless they've internalized a different kind of brainwashing -- the stigma of liking women of size). They can fight for the appreciation of women of size without any hesitations or self-doubts.

My impression is that many people of size, on some level, still feel that they would be "better" somehow if they were smaller, and fight to submerge that feeling. One sees this sentiment at more than a few "fat acceptance blogs".

But the FA has no such doubts about which figure type is (in their opinion) better, and so they can be completely resolute and unconflicted when they fight the imposition of an exclusively thin standard of appearance.
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