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View Poll Results: does it put you off when you know a paysite model is lying about her wg interest?
yes, i'm unable to be aroused by a model i know is lying 52 25.87%
yes, it bugs me but what can you do? she's still pretty. 86 42.79%
no, it doesn't bug me at all OR i enjoy having my fantasy engaged. 63 31.34%
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:27 AM   #1
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as a conscientous, porn-loving FA, does it annoy you or even put you off as a customer when models post stuff on the paysite board like "i'm getting so fat" or "i've gained so much this week" when they've posted that they're getting WLS in a different forum, or that it's visibly clear that they haven't gained anything since last week? what about when the number clearly doesn't match the person's body?

are you able to put that cognitive dissonance out of your mind when jacking off?

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Old 12-08-2009, 09:40 AM   #2
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1. Not all men that look at paysite models do so to jack off yeah most do but not all belive it or not some see it as a form of art.
2. Is a sin or crime if I love my body at the size I am now yet would like to be a little smaller for health reasons Should I deny my fans because of such reasons?
I know this post was not aimed at me but I had to put my two cents in the pot. I think intelligent FA's would understand the weight loss issue And you are right most true FA's can tell any weight gain or loss. Do they still pay to join the site ALOT do.
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i think you have the wrong thread.
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1. Not all men that look at paysite models do so to jack off yeah most do but not all belive it or not some see it as a form of art.
paysite models are people too, yes. but people don't pay monthly for art.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:57 AM   #5
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Just giving my opinion from my side of the coin but as they say opinions are just like assholes everyone has one.
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you're not catching the distinction between

a) regular models who want to lose weight and be healthy
b) models who exaggerate about their gain or desire to gain loudly, in hilarious contradiction to posts they've made about hating their body or desperation to lose weight.

you're talking about the first group. this thread concerns the second.
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:15 AM   #7
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Dan? Sweetie? Perhaps it failed to escape your notice that the thread you're referencing in your SIG line was deleted. I know, I know ... ridiculous. Of course you already know it. That being said, while I'm flattered that someone you've <ahem> placed on IGNORE is worthy of your <ahem> attention ... you're breaking the rules by posting it. So kindly remove it, Honey Sugar PorkiePie. Thanks ever so much!

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maybe i should've taken into account that paysite models can vote
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I always found it amusing that this bothered you so much EIT. It all seems very innocent to me. ALL of paysite stuff could be found bothersome since most of the women are moms and mu-mu wearers in real life. Where you can visibly SEE a person is lying, i.e. losing weight complete with hanging chins and stuff, I could see. Someone capitolizing on their unintentional gain saying, "Ooooo, look how fat I got!" when deep down she prefers to be thin seems inert. She's just giving the people what they want. The fact that you're an insider and can see behind the curtain spoils it I suppose but I don't see anything wrong with the practice itself.

ETA: Yeah, I did vote in the poll. I like cheerleader porn and I'm not disturbed to find that the people aren't really varsity players or cheerleaders so I voted. I'm curious to hear how other people feel though. You can cross mine out if you want to.
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yeah, there's certainly nothing inherently wrong with it as a practice, and it's nice to see girls trumping guys for once in a famously abusive industry. but i don't like to feel like a mark either.

and enough paysite girls feel pressure to gain as a necessity rather than an innocent tease that they'll blow up their myspace blog about the comments they get.

for me personally, yeah, ruined. 100% of my porn consumption is non-wg-related.

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yeah, there's certainly nothing inherently wrong with it as a practice, and it's nice to see girls trumping guys for once in a famously abusive industry. but i don't like to feel like a mark either.
What is most amusing to me is to see that there are things out there that cater to something I like in the first place. The fact that cheerleader fantasy stuff is so common it's cliche is facinating to me. lol It is exploitive under the definition of the word but does it mean they are laughing at you all the way to the bank or does it mean that people are stepping and fetching in front of you because your wallet has power? If everybody is getting something they want it seems to balance out to me. *shrugs*
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Interesting- Dan, is your issue with lack of truthfulness or bad/lazy artifice?
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that's a tough one, because i'd say "lazy" but the extraordinary amounts of time and care some models have taken to create the artifice so that they don't have to actually make the effort to look interested sexually is kind of bewildering.

it's not really the lack of truthfulness in itself so much as protesting too much. while it's more than likely my money is going to your WLS fund, that's fucking grim.

i guess "laziness" can be defined different ways. for someone it could be "not taking the pains of keeping your board persona consistent with your paysite persona." another could be repeating the same line about all the parts you've gained in since 48 hours ago until i move onto pastures less cynical.

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Someone capitolizing on their unintentional gain saying, "Ooooo, look how fat I got!" when deep down she prefers to be thin seems inert. She's just giving the people what they want. The fact that you're an insider and can see behind the curtain spoils it I suppose but I don't see anything wrong with the practice itself.
This. Since this poll is OBVIOUSLY pointed at me. I do gain. I post about it. I show videos of me ON THE SCALE. I do not LIE!!! If anything I am more honest than most...which is WHY I post on the WLS board. Did you know I have been seeking WLS for nearly 1.5 years and probably have another 10 months wait? So what, I should just pack up and go home because SOMEDAY I'm going to have a life saving procedure?

Most of my fans support me. I receive PMs and emails of support all the time. One fan actually read my wls blog and looked at all my research and said my choice looks "the most natural".

Doesn't it ruin your boner when women pose pregnant, or photoshop out rashes or they leave babypowder visable under the rolls?

I mean for fucks sake...we aren't human or anything.

Yes I am having WLS. Yes I am over 600 and I have gained recently. I have never ever told a lie and I would swear on it. I'm one of the honest ones. There are some who say they weigh x amount and look at least 100 under that...but that's their deal, not mine.

and fuck yeah I voted! I like ssbbw porn too!

oh yeah and I don't have a wls fund.

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What is most amusing to me is to see that there are things out there that cater to something I like in the first place. The fact that cheerleader fantasy stuff is so common it's cliche is facinating to me. lol It is exploitive under the definition of the word but does it mean they are laughing at you all the way to the bank or does it mean that people are stepping and fetching in front of you because your wallet has power? If everybody is getting something they want it seems to balance out to me. *shrugs*
morally, better they exploit themselves than someone else. sexually, i'm glad to report my needs are better served by reality at this time.
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Since this poll is OBVIOUSLY pointed at me
i can assure you that while your post at the top of the board today jogged my memory about starting a thread like this, this poll is certainly in no way "pointed" at you or any one model and there are many, many people that this applies to. including the men. it's clearly not hard to please the natasfans of the world so why exert yourself? i'm not holding anyone accountable for making good business doing what they do, i just wanted to see if any other fas are bugged by the formula.

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Doesn't bother me a bit.

I've been a fan of professional wrestling full-time for 16 years (not counting the previous 5 of action figure collecting) and to me its somewhat similar to what you're talking about.

In real life, 2 wrestlers may not really hate each other but on camera they'll talk about killing each other so people will drop 30 dollars to see them tear each other's tonsils out in a steel cage. After the match is over both guys come through the curtain, patch up and then go grab a beer together.

The same way Captain Kirk will lay waste to a romulan's bunghole on an episode of Star Trek. We all turn to each other after the show and say "Didja see that? That was awesome!" Meanwhile William Shatner and the romulan dude probably went out for dinner with some cast members after the show.

Which is why I have no problem with paysite models "lying" so to speak, as long as they're not horrible actors then they can sell all the fantasies they want. A web model may absolutely hate the idea of gaining weight but the concept makes her money. Its no different than wrestling as she is selling a product that entertains in order to make money, just like wrestling, tv shows and reading a book. There's no such thing as vampires and 13 year old wizards with giant glasses but obviously the new hip thing is reading about them.....they're not real but they make money too.

Is it lying, yes. Is it making her money, yes. Are people still entertained and getting their money's worth....HELL YES. I remember one time this unknown (and thankfully gone now) bbw posted a clip of her "350 pound weigh-in" and she stepped on the scale and it said 311.....she then quickly panned the camera away and was like "OMG I did it...I'm 350 pounds, look how fat I am" Obviously she's nowhere near 350 pounds but her doing the 360 rotate and showing off her body still made it hot.

So yeah, selling a fantasy for money is ok with me.....just make sure your acting doesn't suck.
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I remember one time this unknown (and thankfully gone now) bbw posted a clip of her "350 pound weigh-in" and she stepped on the scale and it said 311.....she then quickly panned the camera away and was like "OMG I did it...I'm 350 pounds, look how fat I am"
haha! it's good that you know what you're paying for though.

i suppose wrestling is the analogy now that it's pretty well-known that matches are preordained, but - while i'm not up on my wwe history - there had to have been a significant portion of fans at the time when this became well-known who were disillusioned/disappointed to find out they were being sold acted entertainment and not a spectator sport.

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Most likely I'm still going to jerk it.

Occasionally I get a raging flareup about it when it's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS, but not usually.

Plus, consider the fact that MOST people who post on the Paysite Board never take their hands off their dicks long enough to post or read anywhere else on Dimensions, so hey, ignorance is bliss, right?

Consider yourself lucky to be "in the know", dan, and able to optimize your masturbating experience; let the rest drown in their own sperm.
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Most likely I'm still going to jerk it.

Occasionally I get a raging flareup about it when it's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS, but not usually.

Plus, consider the fact that MOST people who post on the Paysite Board never take their hands off their dicks long enough to post or read anywhere else on Dimensions, so hey, ignorance is bliss, right?

Consider yourself lucky to be "in the know", dan, and able to optimize your masturbating experience; let the rest drown in their own sperm.
omg that would be sooo hot.
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Most likely I'm still going to jerk it.

Occasionally I get a raging flareup about it when it's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS, but not usually.

Plus, consider the fact that MOST people who post on the Paysite Board never take their hands off their dicks long enough to post or read anywhere else on Dimensions, so hey, ignorance is bliss, right?

Consider yourself lucky to be "in the know", dan, and able to optimize your masturbating experience; let the rest drown in their own sperm.
This is so true.
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omg that would be sooo hot.
Now I'm picturing one of those "hit the target" dunk tanks filled with, well, you know.

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Your just to dang cute.

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Most likely I'm still going to jerk it.

Occasionally I get a raging flareup about it when it's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS, but not usually.

Plus, consider the fact that MOST people who post on the Paysite Board never take their hands off their dicks long enough to post or read anywhere else on Dimensions, so hey, ignorance is bliss, right?

Consider yourself lucky to be "in the know", dan, and able to optimize your masturbating experience; let the rest drown in their own sperm.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:57 AM   #24
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Dang Dondra I cant rep you but I love ya. And well said.
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Now I'm picturing one of those "hit the target" dunk tanks filled with, well, you know.

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