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View Poll Results: does it put you off when you know a paysite model is lying about her wg interest?
yes, i'm unable to be aroused by a model i know is lying 52 25.87%
yes, it bugs me but what can you do? she's still pretty. 86 42.79%
no, it doesn't bug me at all OR i enjoy having my fantasy engaged. 63 31.34%
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Old 12-08-2009, 12:00 PM   #26
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also, it's common to bash the terrible acting in xxx porn but even if a starlet is feigning ecstasy, you can't fake say, not noticing or reacting when you have three dicks pounding you. and people are paying for that reaction.

whereas like, when someone advertises a "cake feeding video" and it's two girls bursting out laughing trying to remember their lines, i feel like a sucker. but it's such a specialized niche that no one will complain about them not doing like, a second take, and on top of that you feel bad doing so because they're not famous and rich, they're college girls trying to get by in a shitty economy.
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Old 12-08-2009, 12:03 PM   #28
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So what, I should just pack up and go home because SOMEDAY I'm going to have a life saving procedure?
to be honest? YES.
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i think there's a difference between presenting yourself as a gaining model and presenting yourself as an intentionally gaining model. and that now matter how solid your reasons are for doing anything you do in your life, it's best if you didn't care about the contradiction before to not start now when people give you an angry response for essentially meaning to trick them. it's not wrong or anything, it's just not a good look.
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I don't think saying 'oh my god I'm so fat' is much different to a "normal" sized woman in porn claiming that they love all sorts of dirty things or being terribly turned on.

That said, it makes me laugh when I see some of the people here claiming they are 100lbs more than me when they are shorter and smaller than me on pictures. That said, I don't like it when people lie so it is a turn off.
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I think Dan's question is valid. It could be worded in a more politically-correct way of course, but at least he is upfront unlike many guys who post "innocent" requests on the WB, right?

Anyway, I don't get off to the traditional cheesecake BBW paysites as I can only be turned on by very specific stuff that doesn't exist yet. I am a lesbian and as most of you should know, most of the girl/girl stuff out on the market is obviously made for straight men and hilariously fake. The terrible acting can be funny but what is insulting is really the stereotypes perpetuated by pseudo-lesbian porn (straight girls trying to make out with me in clubs for male attention, straight guys never taking me seriously when I say I am not interested because the male lead always walks in, right?). It makes me feel like my sexuality is just a money-maker or even a joke, and that makes me angry. I imagine that some FAs and feeders might feel the same way.

If I am an FA who is aroused by weight gain and explicit fat talk (I am not, but we all have our own kinks) then yes, I will be disappointed when I find out that the girl in fact hates her body, the idea of weight gain or even think that FAs are sick in the head. I would feel so silly and even guilty about having gotten off to her pictures and videos catering to said fantasy by someone who is likely to think rather lowly of "my kind". Yes, paysite models and porn stars are people too and obviously don't keep that greedy feedee crazy slutty front up all the time in their personal lives, but to know that they are putting themselves out there doing something they absolutely hate just for a paltry sum (yes, some models make more but most keep their day jobs) makes me feel rather sorry for them.

Even if I am a young fat girl coming to terms with my own body, I will feel betrayed if I find out that the BBW model I look up to actually loathes her fat more than anything and had been faking it for the guys all along. If a paysite model who is extremely attractive, confident, inspiring and has thousands of fans to reinforce that feels that way, what about me?

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If a paysite model who is extremely attractive, confident, inspiring and has thousands of fans to reinforce that hates her own fat more than anything, what about me?
Yikes.

That IS scary, and as guys looking at hot women, we don't have the opportunity to potentially self-identify like FFAs might. Thankfully, I don't know of any paysite models potentially referred to by this thread that feel that way, which is either a good thing or a bad thing; good if there are none, bad if there are some and they're hiding it very well.
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The girls tell the boys what they want to hear. What is wrong with that?
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For the record, I don't hate my body and I still plan on being supersized.
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to be honest? YES.
Really. So some popular "normal sized" model plans on having breast reduction surgery in the next 5 years....she should stop modelling? There is flaws in your logic.

Don't like it, don't buy it.
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For the record, I don't hate my body and I still plan on being supersized.
Well hopefully you still plan on being gorgeous too.

And this is kind of a stupid argument in this thread, isn't it? I think that if someone's at the stage of masturbating to someone's image, it's rather hard to do that AND be concerned about either their honesty or their well-being, depending on which side of the argument they're on. If a model loses weight, it doesn't make the existing pictures of them at their highest any less sexy, does it? Granted, you'll have the chans and the fans moaning about how much bigger she COULD have gotten, but then again, they whine about everything, don't they?

Besides, it's not like there's plenty of paysite models who are just growing without advertising it, too. I love weight gain, and yes, seeing someone who's already huge get even more huge is ball-numbingly hot, but I also know there's plenty of the fetish going around, whether it's the focus or not.
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cors just kicked this thread up six thousand echelons into another dimension, which is a rarity around here.
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I don't begrudge a paysite model if she wants to create a persona that isn't real. Where I run into trouble is if I know that person is really unhappy with their weight. Perving on someone who is plainly miserable isn't fun and whereas I used to feel pangs of resentment when I would find out some girl I thought of as super hot was really not comfortable with her size all along, nowdays I kinda think this is more a projection of my own guilt about enjoying an aspect of someone's life that they most certainly didn't enjoy.

So I'm cool visiting fantasy porn land as well, but the second I see that there is actual suffering going on it stops being hot. Possibly selfish.
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It makes me feel like my sexuality is just a money-maker or even a joke, and that makes me angry. I imagine that some FAs and feeders might feel the same way.
yeah, somewhat the same way, besides having my intelligence insulted, i feel like i'm having my sexuality insulted - you can't just wave an empty plate at me and go I ATE THAT. i'm not that easy to pin down.

like bbssbbw says, don't like it, don't buy it. but i've seen plenty of clips4sale crap of atrocious quality that you'd theoretically only discover after you paid.
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Really. So some popular "normal sized" model plans on having breast reduction surgery in the next 5 years....she should stop modelling? There is flaws in your logic.

Don't like it, don't buy it.
She doesn't change her whole being by having breast reduction surgery. Yes, if she is a boob model, then when it comes down to the surgery I think she should be honest.

I don't really like saying it to you. But I hate seeing people who are planning WLS surgery (like myself) posting pictures about how fat they are, how much they've gained or whatever.

I know YOU'RE honest on other boards but do you not feel like a hypocrite saying 'look how fat i am, look how big i've gotten I've gained X amount' whilst hating that gain?

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I don't begrudge a paysite model if she wants to create a persona that isn't real. Where I run into trouble is if I know that person is really unhappy with their weight. Perving on someone who is plainly miserable isn't fun and whereas I used to feel pangs of resentment when I would find out some girl I thought of as super hot was really not comfortable with her size all along, nowdays I kinda think this is more a projection of my own guilt about enjoying an aspect of someone's life that they most certainly didn't enjoy.

So I'm cool visiting fantasy porn land as well, but the second I see that there is actual suffering going on it stops being hot. Possibly selfish.
i agree with this too, though there's a troubling distinction when the girl herself will continue to do it whether it makes her miserable or not, that she's resigned herself to it as a career and necessity in her life, whether because of her size or self-esteem or her spending budget or what.
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Anyway, I don't get off to the traditional cheesecake BBW paysites as I can only be turned on by very specific stuff that doesn't exist yet. I am a lesbian and as most of you should know, most of the girl/girl stuff out on the market is obviously made for straight men and hilariously fake. The terrible acting can be funny but what is insulting is really the stereotypes perpetuated by pseudo-lesbian porn (straight girls trying to make out with me in clubs for male attention, straight guys never taking me seriously when I say I am not interested because the male lead always walks in, right?). It makes me feel like my sexuality is just a money-maker or even a joke, and that makes me angry. I imagine that some FAs and feeders might feel the same way.
This is pretty much how i feel about lesbian porn in general and so just don't watch porn as it never turns me on..and it IS because it seems so fake. Fa porn specifically geared towards queer women doesnt exist either.. haha so i guess i'm not even qualified to answer this question. Though i would say, its probably quite rare that the people that you are wanking off to are people who you can get to chat to or debate with in other parts of a community you both exist in. Perhaps this is why some feel that dissonance is caused here.
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The reason I became a web model is because I love my body. I was against it because I feared what people would think. I would see something on my body and think, "GAWD this is awesome." I finally decided to take the plunge and do it because I grew tired of stepping to other people's hand claps. Also I know some day it will all go south and I'll be an old woman. I wanted to be able to say, "Looka me! See? I did that." People who aren't exhibitionists wont get that and that's cool. I just wanted the things that I love and appreciate to be seen by others who love and appreciate it as much as I do. I never knew people like that exhisted before. I was modeling free for years with my own yahoo group before I joined a paysite.

I've heard a few times on here that people are bristling at the fact that people get paid for this or that they are making only a fraction of what they may actually be bringing in to a site. This is all true and it gets to me sometimes too when I'm short on my oil bill. I get paid a sum for modeling. I could change that right now and make more or ALL if I was really ambitious. That would involve work, hassle, knowledge, study and involvement that I don't want to be bothered with though. At least not right now. So I'm modeling with people I know personally and can get my hands on immediately if I become sore displeased for some reason. I am seriously in it simply because this is what I like to do. If I didn't want to do it anymore I would just stop and whatever ill feelings come of that would be forgotten before the next round of drinks. So for me it works.

On the other hand though, if this were to suddenly change and I wanted to lose weight there would be a few people who would be very disappointed if I were to stop modeling. Most would go their own way but some would stay and I might even pick up a few new fans. If I still like doing it I wouldn't be inclined to go away simply because a few people don't like the new direction I'm taking, especially since I would more than likely come clean from the beginning and people would know what's what. If you don't like it I think that's fair enough but it goes too far to try to condemn someone for living their life.
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She doesn't change her whole being by having breast reduction surgery. Yes, if she is a boob model, then when it comes down to the surgery I think she should be honest.

I don't really like saying it to you. But I hate seeing people who are planning WLS surgery (like myself) posting pictures about how fat they are, how much they've gained or whatever.

I know YOU'RE honest on other boards but do you not feel like a hypocrite saying 'look how fat i am, look how big i've gotten I've gained X amount' whilst hating that gain?

Sorry D, you know I love you.
So she should tell people...even if it's FIVE YEARS in the future? This makes no sense. It's really no ones business.

You of all people should understand that there is a real side and a fetish side. I am married to an FA....and FA who love huge women. There are times when I don't mind the gain But when I try to walk and have a lot of pain...I don't like it so much.

I'm a fetish model....I sell the image of a fetish...and I do a damn good job of it and don't feel one bit of a hypocrite.

And just to add more fun, I'm going to model AFTER WLS....eat that bitches!!! hahahahaha

I'll laugh all the way to the bank. Cos ya know....Guys will still love me when Im 450....they may not be the same guys that love me now....but I am gorgeous...I have a pretty face.....and that goes a long way.
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This is pretty much how i feel about lesbian porn in general and so just don't watch porn as it never turns me on..and it IS because it seems so fake. Fa porn specifically geared towards queer women doesnt exist either.. haha so i guess i'm not even qualified to answer this question. Though i would say, its probably quite rare that the people that you are wanking off to are people who you can get to chat to or debate with in other parts of a community you both exist in. Perhaps this is why some feel that dissonance is caused here.
the sad shame about porn for lesbians is that i just don't think there's enough guarantee of a market as incentive to make it.

i'd be curious to what you two think of mandy blake's herfirstfatgirl stuff, which caters to the (for a female viewer) "seductive bbw deflowering a curious ffa" super-niche. the acts in her vids look pretty...enjoyed.
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Old 12-08-2009, 01:13 PM   #49
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This is pretty much how i feel about lesbian porn in general and so just don't watch porn as it never turns me on..and it IS because it seems so fake. Fa porn specifically geared towards queer women doesnt exist either.. haha so i guess i'm not even qualified to answer this question. Though i would say, its probably quite rare that the people that you are wanking off to are people who you can get to chat to or debate with in other parts of a community you both exist in. Perhaps this is why some feel that dissonance is caused here.
The stuff I want to see at the moment so doesn't exist. I would love to see a really slim woman with a fat woman and I'm not going into the rest here as I have friends that read :P
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I don't do straight porn, I don't do lesbian porn. I am a fetish model, you either love it or you don't....but when I make videos I always start with "hi guys and gals" or some such because I do have a handful of female fans whom I do not want to ignore.
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