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View Poll Results: What's more appealing to you as an FA?
Process of weight gain 72 29.51%
Results of weight gain 67 27.46%
Inseperable/the same as eachother 81 33.20%
Neither hold any appeal 24 9.84%
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:52 PM   #1
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If I may take the liberty of crossposting James' post from my other poll thread:

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In general... if all else remains equal, the FA/FFA's natural condition is to see aesthetic beauty in a large body. Correspondingly, one could make an argument that all FAs are inherently into weight gain. It seems like the nuance here is in whether the FA/FFA is attracted to a process of gaining or the outcome of having gained (and thus being 'not thin').
Let's find out.

Which is more arousing to you as a FA? The weight gain itself or the end result of the weight gain? This is likely to be a more nuanced thread, so I won't make a poll for this one.
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Sooo fascinating...we're getting to the brass tacks here.

I vote both, however as I'm situated as a bisizual bisexual, weight gain is more about the eroticism of the taboo and willful hedonism, so I'd say process.

I think I'm also just a girl this way (god, watch me support the gender binary, gross)...I like thinking about sex, fantasizing, etc a lot more than starring at someone's lovehandles.

Okay, well, that depends on the day...
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Results, definitely.
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Process.

Gaining is dynamic whereas just 'being fat' is static. If this makes sense, I could watch (and participate in) a guy gaining the same ten pounds over and over again. It's the whole idea of him getting turned on by the gaining, feeding or encouraging, seeing the changes as far as outgrown clothes or being less able to fit in certain spaces.

I also enjoy the whole feeding and force feeding scenarios. To me, any kind of role play is hot, and if it's a bit elaborate, you get even more of a turn on. Buying food, talking about an upcoming feeding session, buying a funnel or tube, making sure the person has comfortable clothes because they're going to be getting really bloated, watching them eat, encouraging them, rubbing their belly, and finally seeing them totally stuffed....etc. All that is action and that is what i find appealing.

It's hard to explain the nuance, but for me it's about engaging in the process with an excited partner, the point isn't "Well I would be more turned on if you were larger".

The theme of watching a partner change and participating in that change is fairly common in many porn genres. You can find similar ideas in smoking fetish porn (where maybe a former athlete starts smoking and at the end of story quits playing sports because she can't breathe as easily) or domination porn (like the 'Story of O' which follows a female's submission/degradation).

Even the ideas of "training" a partner to take something like anal sex or to take progressively harder spankings or to perform oral sex on a very well hung male or to engage in a first-time encounter with somebody of the same sex are pretty common within mainstream porn. It's the idea of having somebody change and pushing/breaking limits they thought they had that is exciting.

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Process, of course, with the stipulation that the process begins from a point of visible full-figured-ness, or gets there at some point. A process that begins at skeletal and ends at merely thin isn't particularly appealing.

Can this be turned into a poll? Poll results are invariably more revealing than mere comment threads, because many people will submit their poll opinions, but will not submit comments.

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A combination of both.

From what I've experienced, its equally as hot to have been involved in the fattening of a feedee and to enjoy the end result.

Back in 2006 when I had noticed my friend that I had been hanging with for 5 months was noticably rounder than she first was, it felt really good to know that it was because of me. Taking her to BK and watching her gorge, taking her to ice cream parlors and polishing off ice cream cones and then sitting in the front seat of my car rubbing her stomach....it was so hot to me. I didn't get to enjoy the end result as much as I'd like to (she's been engaged since the day we met), the process of her going from 180 pounds to 223 (as of 2008 but I'm positive she's around the same) was so much fun and awesome to be apart of.

Now, sometimes I don't get to enjoy the process but I do get to enjoy the end result. I met a girl online back in 2007 and we had a few nights together and I clocked her in at 193 in early January 08. I did not see this girl again for a year and a half and really hadn't seen pictures of her. Then all of a sudden she came back into my life and she was much heavier than when we first hung out. We had a date and it wasn't sexual but she obviously was more rotund, plush and actually looking better. The second date she told me that after we got home I could weigh her and "have some fun". Well I got her up on the scale, a year and a half earlier she was 193 and now she stood in front of me at 245. I had absolutely nothing to do with her gaining 52 pounds but I sure was about to enjoy it. I'll keep it clean and not talk about the "fun" we had although you can obviously tell what it was, but the point was this was the end result that I didn't get to experience with my ex-friend. The experience of being with a girl that was a great deal smaller than the last time I was with, turned me very on.

That's why for me, its equally as fun to fatten someone up as it is to enjoy the end result of a beautiful fatty standing in front of you. This is my opinion
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End result... and I'm all about staring at the love handles
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I'm all for both. The journey builds to a great climax, and the results can be very satisfactory.
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How about the "Goal" My GF and I have sort of a goal set for her. The process will be very intense, and a great turn on for us both. We have no real time frame to meet, so we will enjoy every bite, and each pound she gains. We both want her gain to be rather large, so this won't be an over night thing. The buying of food, going out to dinner, late night snacks, eating during sex, all get us both very excited. Having a goal to reach, just keeps lusty thoughts in our minds.
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the process is arousing, but the end result is what it's all about.
if that result isn't obtained, it pretty much nullifies any satisfaction obtained during the process.

result > process
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Can this be turned into a poll? Poll results are invariably more revealing than mere comment threads, because many people will submit their poll opinions, but will not submit comments.
This is true.

If anybody can add a poll to this thread, the poll options should be:
1) Process (Weight Gain)
2) Results (Final Weight)
3) Both/I Can't Decide (explain!)
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Yes, and for all those too chicken to post.
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Neither hold any appeal for me.
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I added the poll because this is a valid thread and there was no reason not to. However, the observation I raised in the other thread was less a question regarding which part of being an FA might be the most arousing (r.e. weight gain) and more a general musing that all* FAs are likely to be interested in, at least, the 'idea' of weight gain... just in different contexts. If a person who is too thin to meet an aesthetic preference subsequently ceases to be too thin to meet such a preference (i.e. becomes fat) then weight gain has occurred and thus the person enters the general window of an FA aesthetic. Thus weight gain, in and of itself may either be seen as either a process or an outcome. Either way, it can be relevant to an FA's sexuality.

* Assuming that the definition of FA means that one has at least a preference for larger physiques... even if one sees aesthetic value in smaller physiques.
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I added the poll because this is a valid thread and there was no reason not to. However, the observation I raised in the other thread was less a question regarding which part of being an FA might be the most arousing (r.e. weight gain) and more a general musing that all* FAs are likely to be interested in, at least, the 'idea' of weight gain... just in different contexts. If a person who is too thin to meet an aesthetic preference subsequently ceases to be too thin to meet such a preference (i.e. becomes fat) then weight gain has occurred and thus the person enters the general window of an FA aesthetic. Thus weight gain, in and of itself may either be seen as either a process or an outcome. Either way, it can be relevant to an FA's sexuality.

* Assuming that the definition of FA means that one has at least a preference for larger physiques... even if one sees aesthetic value in smaller physiques.
I can't help but think of the opposite scenario: if you were only into skinny women, and a fat woman becomes thin enough to meet your aesthetic preference, then are you interested in the 'idea' of weight loss?

To answer the question, I like the process and the result. I'm not sure if I prefer one over the other, though.
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I think that for many non-FAs there is an abstract interest in the idea of weight loss regarding those that are too fat to fit their sexual aesthetic range. People's bodies are mutable whereas people's sexual preferences/orientations tend to be less so. Correspondingly, entire beauty/diet commodity industries are underpinned by the notion that one can change one's appearance to conform to the aesthetic ideal that one wants to exhibit.
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Neither hold any appeal for me.
If you follow the poll as I intended, and my apologies if it's not clear, than such a response would indicate that you in fact do not find fat women to be appealing.

The poll is supposed to be about whether the weight gain, or the fat person, is more arousing.

Correct me if I'm wrong in my assumptions, but you like fat women, you just don't find gaining weight to be anything particularly erotic or sexy. Thus, your answer would be "results".
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If you follow the poll as I intended, and my apologies if it's not clear, than such a response would indicate that you in fact do not find fat women to be appealing.

The poll is supposed to be about whether the weight gain, or the fat person, is more arousing.

Correct me if I'm wrong in my assumptions, but you like fat women, you just don't find gaining weight to be anything particularly erotic or sexy. Thus, your answer would be "results".
Okay, I am a little confused so please bear with me.

I find it strange that FAs like Jon and I who have a preference for fat women but don't find weight gain erotic are seen as interested in the "results" of weight gain. Not all fat women are fat because they have gained. Some are naturally fat and have been fat all their lives. The term "results" implies that there is a "before" and "after" and that one who is into the "results" of weight gain is more turned on by the heavier "after".

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I added the poll because this is a valid thread and there was no reason not to. However, the observation I raised in the other thread was less a question regarding which part of being an FA might be the most arousing (r.e. weight gain) and more a general musing that all* FAs are likely to be interested in, at least, the 'idea' of weight gain... just in different contexts. If a person who is too thin to meet an aesthetic preference subsequently ceases to be too thin to meet such a preference (i.e. becomes fat) then weight gain has occurred and thus the person enters the general window of an FA aesthetic. Thus weight gain, in and of itself may either be seen as either a process or an outcome. Either way, it can be relevant to an FA's sexuality.

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I think that for many non-FAs there is an abstract interest in the idea of weight loss regarding those that are too fat to fit their sexual aesthetic range. People's bodies are mutable whereas people's sexual preferences/orientations tend to be less so. Correspondingly, entire beauty/diet commodity industries are underpinned by the notion that one can change one's appearance to conform to the aesthetic ideal that one wants to exhibit.
Going by this logic, anyone with a preference and limits can be said to be into weight gain and weight loss then?
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Going by this logic, anyone with a preference and limits can be said to be into weight gain and weight loss then?
Well... perhaps not 'into', but certainly interested in the results when the results lead to a person who was otherwise not attractive to them, subsequently becoming attractive to them. It stands to reason I think.

To give a hypothetical example. Lets say a that we have a well known celebrity and that this celebrity meets a generalized social ideal of having a good looking/attractive face (perhaps Brad Pitt or Kate Beckinsale for instance?) Lets say that we have an FA who appreciates this ideal but lacks attraction to the celebrity on the basis of the celebrity's thin physique. What I am saying is that I think that the vast majority of FAs (who are also attracted to the gender of the celeb) would agree that if the celeb were to be fat instead of thin, then the celeb would be much more appealing to them aesthetically. The question is, therefore, not whether FAs... in general... find fatter people attractive... Because thats clearly a given. The question is whether the weight gain is an incidental, yet often clearly related, part of the attraction for a fat person (i.e. the gain, if it happens, is simply a functional process that resulted in a more aesthetic outcome from the point of view of the FA/FFA) or if the weight gain itself, as a process of 'becoming' aesthetically more pleasing, is paramount?

I think that the answer is that 'it depends on the FA/FFA'. But I do think that weight gain/ weight changes are naturally very interlinked with FA sexuality... much more than other types of sexuality simply because of the crucial aesthetic value that weight confers to it.

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Then by your theory I am interested the results of both gains and loses which is dependent on many other things.

I guess it's fair to say there's some interest by that logic, but Cors and I as an example may just not be interested in thinking about those things on a sexual level and/or engaging/manipulation the process.

Could someone gain weight and hold more/less appeal to me? Yes, but it's complex.
Could someone lose weight and do the same? Yes.

Is it something I'm looking forward to in general when making decisions on partners/people I find attractive? No.

So I'm "Interested," but "Not into it."
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while the results can certainly be beautiful, the process of weight gain itself has proved consistantly more appealing to me. I voted for process.
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Maybe this is just me, but I still fail to see the difference with the other poll.

Anyway, if I find a (big, obviously) woman attractive, I couldn't care less if she had been that size all her life or just recently.
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Mr. Rabbit, it's different in that if someone is interested in process OVER results then being with a fat, unchanging partner may not be something that works for them.

I think it's a very interesting question, and as AFG mentioned - right down to brass tacks.
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MrRabbit can now be the recipient of "two cans" jokesMrRabbit can now be the recipient of "two cans" jokes
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I understand the question, but I meant that I don't understand what the difference is between this poll and the poll in this thread: http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/fo...ad.php?t=67649

But never mind, I answered both polls anyway.
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