you guys might wanna see dr oz to day

[Dromond]

Originally Posted by LordQuas

But it's not like she's going around saying that the content on her website is a representation of completely "normal" behavior, few porn sites are making money based on how "normal" they are. If a grown man (or woman) can't separate between what is real and what goes in in the world of adult entertainment then I put that entirely on them.

Our entire society is built on illusion and denial. One look at politics will tell that story.

[FA Punk]

Originally Posted by Dromond

It can give a man a very skewed view of what bbws/ssbbws are really like, especially if the paysite board is his primary source of 'information.'

You're providing a service, of course. But the whole atmosphere of "look how much food I can shovel," and "see what a piggy I am," or "it feels so great to gain," as well as "I'm so huge, look how small these clothes are on me" is toxic to a person who has little to no experience with actual larger ladies.

It's not your responsibility to set them straight. You're a capitalist and caveat emptor and all that. But you can't take the profit without taking the bad press due to your actions. You don't get to have it both ways.

Thats not even the issue, the issue is that if you post any sort of comment on the paysite board your opinions don't matter as much on the other boards. And I'm sorry but that is bullshit.

[Dromond]

Nevermind.

[MzDeeZyre]

Originally Posted by FA Punk

Thats not even the issue, the issue is that if you post any sort of comment on the paysite board your opinions don't matter as much on the other boards. And I'm sorry but that is bullshit.

Wait..... who said that?? I don't think anyone here said, or inferred that.

[FA Punk]

Originally Posted by MzDeeZyre

Wait..... who said that?? I don't think anyone here said, or inferred that.

It doesn't have to be said, I've seen it happen before, ''Well you just post in the paysite board blah..blah..blah'' it's one of those unwritten rules of Dims.

[joswitch]

Originally Posted by LordQuas

But it's not like she's going around saying that the content on her website is a representation of completely "normal" behavior, few porn sites are making money based on how "normal" they are. If a grown man (or woman) can't separate between what is real and what goes in in the world of adult entertainment then I put that entirely on them.

Exactly! Only morons believe porn = reality! It's acting! Sometimes, really, really bad acting!

[joswitch]

Originally Posted by BBW4Chattery

*snip*

Gah...and I was thinking I could trust Dr. Oz after the episode I caught where he warned me my vagina would fall out because "most women" have vaginal prolapse at some point in their lives. Disappointing.

Clearly, Dr Oz medical school made some cuts in the models for the anatomy department:

[Mishty]

Originally Posted by LordQuas

But it's not like she's going around saying that the content on her website is a representation of completely "normal" behavior, few porn sites are making money based on how "normal" they are. If a grown man (or woman) can't separate between what is real and what goes in in the world of adult entertainment then I put that entirely on them.

Welllllll I kinda feel like porn in general whether it be BBW or gonzo porn,shows a very un-real scene. Okay, look at like anal sex,for decades men have been lead to believe by porn that women love a really big and angry penis in their un-lubbed bum because of porn. Now fat women have to tolerate big and buttery pies crammed into their mouth holes to get these basement dwelling fappers off.


*I like angry penis in my bum almost much as I like pie forced into my face during sex. {riddle me that}

[joswitch]

Originally Posted by gangstadawg

wtf? this is the first i have hard of this comparison. dont know the logic they used to come up with it because it makes no sense at all.

No logic involved at all. It's purely emotive. (Although, they will try to rationalise their emotional response, afterwards, with a load of BS).

Basically, these people hate pedos and... these same haters also hate adult fat people and FAs - especially adult fat people and FAs having happy sex together. Both things make the haters go *squick* "Ewwww!!!". So, for these haters, the two are the same thing!

Haters do their thinking with their guts & glands rather than their brains.

[Mishty]

Originally Posted by FA Punk

Thats not even the issue, the issue is that if you post any sort of comment on the paysite board your opinions don't matter as much on the other boards. And I'm sorry but that is bullshit.

No. When a man has been a member for four years,has mad less than fifty posts and forty of those are on the paysite board and he realizes he's gonna get no action Jackson from married web models THEN decides to join the rest of the group to play,his view is fucked. Because those fetishes and desires he brings with him. It's almost too easy to pick out the once upon a lurker,fap boys posting on a normal thread.

[joswitch]

Originally Posted by MzDeeZyre

I beg to differ.... Not every FA that is here looks at the Pay Site board. AND.... not every FA that is here is bad.

I am so tired of hearing everyone drone on and say..... OMG he's an FA.... he must be a feeder. NO..... Stop with the generalizations.

I don't see everyone generalizing with the FFA's and how they must be feeders, and how horrible they are.

Feederism is a FETISH, and while it may not be for you, it may be for someone else.

Agreed.

Also, there are feeders out there (like me) who can get by perfectly happily just "playing"* at it, just like BDSMers play at it without it ruling their lives.

Not all feeders actually seek to make their feedees gain to a bajillionty immobile pounds, some would be happy with just a few, or even none at all.

(*e.g. if the feedee is already a BBW, and up for a bit of sexy token feeding in the bedroom! Yay!)

And certainly not all feeders up and leave their feedees once they get fat.
Wtf is up with that anyway? bizarro! surely you'd be all woo! My gf is a (ss)bbw now! Awesomes!

Monique clearly had bad experiences, and did what she needed to do to get out of that, but that doesn't mean that everyone has had or will have those same bad experiences. I can think of three or four long term feeder/feedee couples who've been together for years, straight off the top of my head.

[joswitch]

Originally Posted by Mishty

No. When a man has been a member for four years,has mad less than fifty posts and forty of those are on the paysite board and he realizes he's gonna get no action Jackson from married web models THEN decides to join the rest of the group to play,his view is fucked. Because those fetishes and desires he brings with him. It's almost too easy to pick out the once upon a lurker,fap boys posting on a normal thread.

Breaking news:

There are two kinds of men. Those who will cheerfully admit to looking at porn. And those who lie about looking at porn.

And:

Learning to tell the difference between porn and real life is one of the very first things that men learn.


We know that if we go round to do some plumbing we will probably NOT be met at the door by a busty hausfrau in a see-through negligee, and even if we are it'll only be because she's bangin' hubby/bf upstairs when we ring the bell. We know she won't make some crude innuendo while rubbing our monkey wrench before getting her tits out and making a bee-line for our pants. And even if she does, we should probably politely decline and/or flee, because there's a fair to middling chance: she's crazy and will later burst into tears and/or try to stab us, or failing that hubby will show up and try to batter/stab/shoot us.

We know teh pr0n is a lie!! So we turn up, do the plumbing, hopefully get a cup of tea, leave an invoice and go on about our day.

Men: able to tell the difference between fiction and real life. We be skilled like that, and shiz. Also able to chew gum, walk and talk at the same time.

[Mishty]

Originally Posted by joswitch

Breaking news:

There are two kinds of men. Those who will cheerfully admit to looking at porn. And those who lie about looking at porn.

And:

Learning to tell the difference between porn and real life is one of the very first things that men learn.


We know that if we go round to do some plumbing we will probably NOT be met at the door by a busty hausfrau in a see-through negligee, and even if we are it'll only be because she's bangin' hubby/bf upstairs when we ring the bell. We know she won't make some crude innuendo while rubbing our monkey wrench before getting her tits out and making a bee-line for our pants. And even if she does, we should probably politely decline and/or flee, because there's a fair to middling chance: she's crazy and will later burst into tears and/or try to stab us, or failing that hubby will show up and try to batter/stab/shoot us.

We know teh pr0n is a lie!! So we turn up, do the plumbing, hopefully get a cup of tea, leave an invoice and go on about our day.

Men: able to tell the difference between fiction and real life. We be skilled like that, and shiz. Also able to chew gum, walk and talk at the same time.

Two types of men may be walkin' this earth but Dim land only has one kind. A man is far more likely to try to feed a fat woman a pie than a normal plumber man is to fuck Bella Donna with a wrench.

[FA Punk]

Originally Posted by Mishty

No. When a man has been a member for four years,has mad less than fifty posts and forty of those are on the paysite board and he realizes he's gonna get no action Jackson from married web models THEN decides to join the rest of the group to play,his view is fucked. Because those fetishes and desires he brings with him. It's almost too easy to pick out the once upon a lurker,fap boys posting on a normal thread.

And that is not always the case, that man my have forty posts in the paysite section here but mybe he interacts more seriously with this community at another forum. Since you know Dims isn't the only FA/BBW community around. The idea to completely disregard someone's opinion because of where they choose to post isn't fair nor is it right.

[joswitch]

Originally Posted by Mishty

Welllllll I kinda feel like porn in general whether it be BBW or gonzo porn,shows a very un-real scene. Okay, look at like anal sex,for decades men have been lead to believe by porn that women love a really big and angry penis in their un-lubbed bum because of porn. Now fat women have to tolerate big and buttery pies crammed into their mouth holes to get these basement dwelling fappers off.


*I like angry penis in my bum almost much as I like pie forced into my face during sex. {riddle me that}

So, here's a thing:

Has anyone else noticed?
When a woman has a wank, she's all empowered! and getting-in-touch with her own sexuality and shiz. And oh, isn't it fabulous how independent and don't-need-a-man, (just a vibe, invented and built by men) she is! You go grrrrl!!
But:
When a man has a wank, ooooh, he must be some "basement dwelling fapper" code for troglodyte loser. How pathetic he is!

Also, I know waaaay more women still living at home with their folks than I know men doing the same, yet they are not mocked as "basement dwellers". Funny that, eh?


Men: also able to notice BS double standards. We be all multi-talented and shiz. Hehehehe.

[joswitch]

Originally Posted by Mishty

Two types of men may be walkin' this earth but Dim land only has one kind. A man is far more likely to try to feed a fat woman a pie than a normal plumber man is to fuck Bella Donna with a wrench.

And fat women hate teh pieZ. Hate them. Pastryphobics, one and all. Fact.

Also, I think your pr0n is scarier than my pr0n Misty!

Flee! Flee from teh angry penis butthex!!

[Mishty]

Originally Posted by joswitch

So, here's a thing:

Has anyone else noticed?
When a woman has a wank, she's all empowered! and getting-in-touch with her own sexuality and shiz. And oh, isn't it fabulous how independent and don't-need-a-man, (just a vibe, invented and built by men) she is! You go grrrrl!!
But:
When a man has a wank, ooooh, he must be some "basement dwelling fapper" code for troglodyte loser. How pathetic he is!

Also, I know waaaay more women still living at home with their folks than I know men doing the same, yet they are not mocked as "basement dwellers". Funny that, eh?


Men: also able to notice BS double standards. We be all multi-talented and shiz. Hehehehe.

BECAUSE i can see both sides of an argument about porn, you can't.
I can like something,it can get me off, and I can admit it's not healthy or normal, but men just wanna roar about. blah dee fuckin' blah my penisssss. Men have been discussing jacking off for a super long time,masturbation bragging for the ladies is new,let us have our. our glory,boss.

[joswitch]

Originally Posted by Mishty

BECAUSE i can see both sides of an argument about porn, you can't.
I can like something,it can get me off, and I can admit it's not healthy or normal, but men just wanna roar about. blah dee fuckin' blah my penisssss. Men have been discussing jacking off for a super long time,masturbation bragging for the ladies is new,let us have our. our glory,boss.

Wow, now I feel sad for you. Who taught you that masturbation is "not healthy or normal"?

Really, Misty, don't worry, you will not go blind and you will not grow hair on your palms, or go insane. Those things are not, in fact, true. At all.
There is nothing wrong with masturbation. It's like, totes ok. No matter what that ol'fella in the pointy hat in the Vatican says.

Also, you seem to be like totally fucking obsessed with "angry" penises.

Well, I am happy to bring you wonderful, joyful news:
Penises are NOT compulsory.
You can go your whole life and never, ever have to see, touch, or talk about (or to) penises. EvAR.

Hint: Don't go on ChatRoulette. Don't open picture attachments or texts from people you don't know.

There you go, fixed! You may now go about the rest of your penis-free life!
You're welcome!

[wrestlingguy]

All you wise old sages who are far too smart to think that all women must be just like their webmodel counterparts, riddle me this.......

Why is it that so many women here share the complaint of guys continually asking them things that would typically be asked of paysite girls?

See, having had to counsel many a guy who's attended a bash thinking that they could take a shot at shagging one of the paysite ladies who wouldn't have sex with them if they had $50 bills hanging out of their butts (well maybe a couple of them would), then when they get enough rejections from them, head over to the other ladies, figuring they can do and say the same things.

Sorry boys, I'm not buying it. Dromond is dead on with his assessment.

[moore2me]

Originally Posted by FA Punk

I loved the fact that Dr. Ablow was at least honest about his feeling towards FAs, were no better then someone who would rape a child in his eyes. He's a bastard but an honest bastard, most of these assholes would have just beat'en around the bush on that one but not him, Oh no Dr. Ablow tells it like it is. Funny how the men in our community are becoming more and more demonized on television and were not even there to fight back.

Originally Posted by joswitch

That's not the first time I've come across that comparison and it pisses me right off.

When anyone compares what goes on between consenting adults to pedophilia, they are:
1) totally infantilising one half of the couple (almost always women)
2) demonising the other half (almost always men)
3) putting the demonised half in danger of death. In my country an accusation of pedophilia has led to men being killed by vigilante morons (one guy was chased off the top of a multi-story building). At the height of pedo hysteria a pediatrician (child DOCTOR) was attacked by a mob of illiterates.

because of 3) I would deem it legitimate to defend yourself by any means necessary against anyone calling or comparing you to a pedo, as they are effectively threatening your life. Especially if live on TV in front of millions. It's deadly serious.

Maybe Dr Blowme knows this and that's why he doesn't invite men on his show...

I totally agree with Joswitch on this one - with this add on. Not only is the good Dr. putting some men in danger in countries where pedophilia is a death sentence, but the Dr is also trivializing the dangerous & perverted true pedophiles. Sexually harming a child is a serious crime in the US and an immoral act of a barbarian psychopath. A person (most often males, but sometimes females) should not have their child abuse actions minimized by trivializing their sins.

Dr Ablow trivializes raping children when he compares raping a child to people who break society's rules - written rules (such as not burning your draft card, not filing income taxes on time, not paying parking ticket fines, etc.) or social rules (no spitting on people's cars, no hanging out in bars all day unless its raining, or not talking dirty to your grandma, etc,).

[Reenaye Starr]

Originally Posted by wrestlingguy

REAL RELATIONSHIPS ARE NOT ABOUT JUST THE FAT.

Amen... This goes for most the feeder/feedee relationships I know as well.. Including my own.

[Reenaye Starr]

Originally Posted by joswitch

Agreed.

Also, there are feeders out there (like me) who can get by perfectly happily just "playing"* at it, just like BDSMers play at it without it ruling their lives.

Not all feeders actually seek to make their feedees gain to a bajillionty immobile pounds, some would be happy with just a few, or even none at all.

(*e.g. if the feedee is already a BBW, and up for a bit of sexy token feeding in the bedroom! Yay!)

And certainly not all feeders up and leave their feedees once they get fat.
Wtf is up with that anyway? bizarro! surely you'd be all woo! My gf is a (ss)bbw now! Awesomes!

Monique clearly had bad experiences, and did what she needed to do to get out of that, but that doesn't mean that everyone has had or will have those same bad experiences. I can think of three or four long term feeder/feedee couples who've been together for years, straight off the top of my head.

A girl can be a feedee without being a gainer... "playing at it" is always fun!

[joswitch]

Originally Posted by Reenaye Starr

Amen... This goes for most the feeder/feedee relationships I know as well.. Including my own.

^This.

There's this BS myth floating around out there that says: feeder/feedees aren't real people too, with actual loving feelings for one another. Probably based on that C4 documentary / urban legends that form the popular image of feedism.

People who believe in this myth forget that being a heartless asshole is not a feeder specific trait, there's a subset of men and women of all orientations and kinks who happen to be heartless assholes, and a much bigger subset who are not.

[Reenaye Starr]

Originally Posted by joswitch

^This.

There's this BS myth floating around out there that says: feeder/feedees aren't real people too, with actual loving feelings for one another. Probably based on that C4 documentary / urban legends that form the popular image of feedism.

People who believe in this myth forget that being a heartless asshole is not a feeder specific trait, there's a subset of men and women of all orientations and kinks who happen to be heartless assholes, and a much bigger subset who are not.

Another thing that is amusing me in this thread is the distinction between "paysite girls" and "real girls", because what we do for a living makes us somehow less real. Paysite girls don't have feelings, or share the same desires out of a relationship like love or respect... I dunno'... There seems to be WAY too much closed-mindedness in this thread... We are supposed to be an open-minded group of folks who love accept and respect one another... Instead, I am seeing a lot of "if you are not like me, you're thoughts and feelings are immediately invalid..." It's a shame, all the way around.

[KHayes666]

Originally Posted by Reenaye Starr

Another thing that is amusing me in this thread is the distinction between "paysite girls" and "real girls", because what we do for a living makes us somehow less real. Paysite girls don't have feelings, or share the same desires out of a relationship like love or respect... I dunno'... There seems to be WAY too much closed-mindedness in this thread... We are supposed to be an open-minded group of folks who love accept and respect one another... Instead, I am seeing a lot of "if you are not like me, you're thoughts and feelings are immediately invalid..." It's a shame, all the way around.

There's no difference than paysite girls and "real" girls. A girl is a girl regardless of their occupation. Screw them if they want to act like aristocratic jackasses and put you down.