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Old 12-24-2012, 06:57 PM   #26
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Oh yea, an insult to women. You're a real peach, aren't you.
I think he's being honest and not meaning any insult. Not all of us in this world were raised to be so honest and free when it comes to sex. It seems like this is a perfect opportunity to try to understand that we all come to the table with different life experiences that we can SHARE. I love to see your opinions. It opens my mind to different ways of thinking. It's all good.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:01 PM   #27
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I think he's being honest and not meaning any insult. Not all of us in this world were raised to be so honest and free when it comes to sex. It seems like this is a perfect opportunity to try to understand that we all come to the table with different life experiences that we can SHARE. I love to see your opinions. It opens my mind to different ways of thinking. It's all good.
Saying he's a man and that pussy-footing and tip-toeing are for ballerinas equates weakness with femininity and is quite insulting to women.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:06 PM   #28
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Princess...you obviously don't spend much time around older men. The people my age talk that way and it doesn't necessarily mean that they're horrible people. It would do you good to try to be a little less focused on word choices and look to the SPIRIT of the speakers' words. Its a big world out here and we all have different ways of putting things...its not helpful to focus so closely on the words and lose the meaning behind them. I hope you'll try to see BEYOND the words I sometimes use to see the thought and emotions I'm expressing. I really do.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:10 PM   #29
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Princess...you obviously don't spend much time around older men. The people my age talk that way and it doesn't necessarily mean that they're horrible people. It would do you good to try to be a little less focused on word choices and look to the SPIRIT of the speakers' words. Its a big world out here and we all have different ways of putting things...its not helpful to focus so closely on the words and lose the meaning behind them. I hope you'll try to see BEYOND the words I sometimes use to see the thought and emotions I'm expressing. I really do.
Maybe if you should try being less patronizing. Words mean things.
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Not patronizing you at all. I meant what I said with good intentions. If you take offense (meaning you choose to be offended), it just seems to me that no matter what is said you'll be angry. On that note, I won't respond to you again.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:27 PM   #31
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Welp....this degraded quickly.

By the way....age group or not, there's no excuse for sexism. I know plenty of men in every age group that know their way around pesky things like words and being diplomatic, but please continue.....

P.S. I know a number of us women here who love to give oral and are dommes or switches. True D/s has zero to do with what's mostly being discussed in this thread. Lol.
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I guess you could lump me in with the sexists. I took ABSOLUTELY NO OFFENSE to the OP's words. In my world I find the persons' true intentions more important than the jargon they use. I think some people just love to look for a reason to be offended and thats their right...just like its my right to not waste my energy on them. Life's too short to constantly look for a fight and take offense when none is meant.

Also, I could find it offensive that just because someone LOVES to give head they feel they have a right to look down upon others who aren't so thrilled or comfortable with it. I am seriously finding a group on this site who feel that their opinions are the only ones with validity. I'm also finding it OFFENSIVE that if someone doesn't agree there seems to be a wild piling on by a select group.
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Also, I could find it offensive that just because someone LOVES to give head they feel they have a right to look down upon others who aren't so thrilled or comfortable with it. I am seriously finding a group on this site who feel that their opinions are the only ones with validity. I'm also finding it OFFENSIVE that if someone doesn't agree there seems to be a wild piling on by a select group.
There are plenty of people who don't like to give and/or receive, and that's completely fine, but they need to either find a partner who feels the same way or be prepared for a very unbalanced and unsatisfied sexual relationship.

It doesn't matter how old the person was - sexism is sexism and their age is no excuse. It doesn't make it okay, it doesn't mean they don't mean it. There's no reason to let someone get away with discrimination any more. We should no longer be okay with sweeping it under the rug or pretending it's okay.

There's also a difference between pointing out sexism and ignorance and attacking. The OP said he respected women less if they gave head, which he admitted was an opinion formed by ignorance. He's now learning that women outside of porn can and do enjoy sex, and that there's nothing wrong with it.

A whore is someone who is paid for sex. End of story. A person isn't a whore because they like sex or have a lot of partners. Someone who has sex for affection or attention should probably stop and think about why they're doing it, because there's probably emotional issues they're not addressing. But someone who wants to have sex with multiple partners and not save themselves is no more or less deserving of respect for their choices than someone who is very selective about their partners or someone who's waiting. Judging others for who they do or don't sleep with is unnecessary and none of your business.

I like the word slut. I like feeling like a slut, it's something I like my partner to call me. To me, it's empowering. I'm giving in to my sexuality and my sexual needs, it feels naughty and hot and makes me want to do naughtier things. Sex should be fun, but how you do it isn't the only way to do it. Just find someone who likes it your way, with your morals, boundaries and expectations, and have fun.
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I love it... I can't get enough of it myself! There is nothing sexier than a sexy smile hovering over your cock, in my opinion..
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There are plenty of people who don't like to give and/or receive, and that's completely fine, but they need to either find a partner who feels the same way or be prepared for a very unbalanced and unsatisfied sexual relationship.

It doesn't matter how old the person was - sexism is sexism and their age is no excuse. It doesn't make it okay, it doesn't mean they don't mean it. There's no reason to let someone get away with discrimination any more. We should no longer be okay with sweeping it under the rug or pretending it's okay.

There's also a difference between pointing out sexism and ignorance and attacking. The OP said he respected women less if they gave head, which he admitted was an opinion formed by ignorance. He's now learning that women outside of porn can and do enjoy sex, and that there's nothing wrong with it.

A whore is someone who is paid for sex. End of story. A person isn't a whore because they like sex or have a lot of partners. Someone who has sex for affection or attention should probably stop and think about why they're doing it, because there's probably emotional issues they're not addressing. But someone who wants to have sex with multiple partners and not save themselves is no more or less deserving of respect for their choices than someone who is very selective about their partners or someone who's waiting. Judging others for who they do or don't sleep with is unnecessary and none of your business.

I like the word slut. I like feeling like a slut, it's something I like my partner to call me. To me, it's empowering. I'm giving in to my sexuality and my sexual needs, it feels naughty and hot and makes me want to do naughtier things. Sex should be fun, but how you do it isn't the only way to do it. Just find someone who likes it your way, with your morals, boundaries and expectations, and have fun.
This is a perfect example of what I do like. A sharing of opinions without being insulting or attacking. Pointing out WHY you don't like something is fine. Being nasty or rude isn't in my book. While I don't necessarily agree with all you said...your point is valid and I respect it. I am here to learn and see things from all different perspectives. It would be nice to be able to do that without being sidetracked by rude, nasty people who don't explain what the heck they're so angry and offended about. I realize that's impossible though so I've decided to use the ignore option.
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I actually haven't heard of a guy that doesn't like it. I love it and will gladly "give" to the woman too.
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I've known a few guys who say they don't like it or they're not that into it, and while I'm sure a some who say that mean it no matter what, for most, I think it's a case of not having a partner who enjoys giving or who knows what they're doing. Usually, having someone who loves doing it will change their minds.
I actually have dated two men that did not really enjoy receiving oral sex from a woman. They received more satisfaction from giving oral stimulation. I know it wasn't from my lack of experience or expertise, have had enough complements in that arena, it's just how they are wired. Everyone has what turns them on, off, etc.
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Welp....this degraded quickly.

By the way....age group or not, there's no excuse for sexism. I know plenty of men in every age group that know their way around pesky things like words and being diplomatic, but please continue.....

P.S. I know a number of us women here who love to give oral and are dommes or switches. True D/s has zero to do with what's mostly being discussed in this thread. Lol.
Unless people are mixing fem supremacy and femdom in with D/s which isn't uncommon. And considering what a majority of people (typically men) push as being related to female dominance, then it's not far off the mark at all for that way of thinking...the no oral for him that is...which I can say can be a good thing if played well
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This is a perfect example of what I do like. A sharing of opinions without being insulting or attacking. Pointing out WHY you don't like something is fine. Being nasty or rude isn't in my book. While I don't necessarily agree with all you said...your point is valid and I respect it. I am here to learn and see things from all different perspectives. It would be nice to be able to do that without being sidetracked by rude, nasty people who don't explain what the heck they're so angry and offended about. I realize that's impossible though so I've decided to use the ignore option.
Agreed.

In addition to people being nasty or rude, I believe sometimes we need to think twice about what we say and realize that educating someone in a positive manner, if possible, goes much farther than responding in a hateful or mean manner. To remove ourselves from a situation; to avoid taking personal offense and immediately reacting from a place of anger/hurt/etc. Then reassess and respond in such a way that might actually lead to growth and additional understanding on the part of the person looking for answers, information, etc. Of course there are those that this concept is completely wasted on (one of my coworkers bless his annoying self) but I have found that if given the opportunity most people will understand they may have misunderstood a situation, way of thinking, etc. and appreciate positive feedback in how other people think or feel.
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Hey I get it, by making this statement some people may have lost some respect for me; I'll have to be O.K. with that. I just shared how I felt, be it wrong, I told the truth about myself.

However, hearing all this feedback from women that opinion can change, let me explain why:

Until I asked this question, my opinion was formulated from all the porn, TV, and comedy shows I've watched over the years; not by talking to women and asking them how they felt about giving head. I'm of the opinion that most women do it because their man is always asking for it, so they feel pressured. Or they assume from all the stories they hear from their girl/boyfriend about giving head, that it's just something that they have to get accustomed to.

Never would I have thought that a woman would be enthusiastic about it. It just never occurred to me that if I could like eating out, that a woman could like giving head. Also, I've never heard any woman tell it like she enjoyed it.

I have a lot more dump opinions I've formed due to lack of education and simply asking. Although you guys tend to get rough real quick, and slam someone for saying something you think is dumb, I'm still going to make comments and post so I don't stay in the dark (I'm a man that can take it). And don't worry, I won't sugar coat it (pussy-footing and tip-toeing is for ballerinas).
That's a good attitude to have. Your opinions aren't dumb, they're honest and I'm very happy that you feel you can express them here.
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Well sex should be fun, and it is really interesting to have read all the posts on here.

Sometimes it takes someone asking a question that we dont necesarily think about for us to learn other times the debate wording can create is in itself sometimes telling.

I think re the actual topic it is good to learn.

It never occurred to me until it has come up on dims a few times that some men don't enjoy it but that is not based on porn or other such things just my small pool of experience.

The best thing about life is there is a mix of people and when it comes to oral there are those who enjoy and those who don't so hopefully if you don't enjoy ityou will find someone who either doesn't care for it either or who is not fazed either way.

I wonder what other misconceptions porn leads to I am sure there must be loads I know I am not bendy like a pretzel for instance....
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Standing has nothing to do with it, he could be spread out on a bed just as easily and the female could actually seem more submissive in that way. The guy isn't always just standing there lol.

But like spiritangel said I really enjoyed reading the posts on here even if some got a little iffy, everyone has their own opinions. I've learned a lot of things on here than people like and don't like that I don't think I would've known otherwise...
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I've known a few guys who say they don't like it or they're not that into it, and while I'm sure a some who say that mean it no matter what, for most, I think it's a case of not having a partner who enjoys giving or who knows what they're doing. Usually, having someone who loves doing it will change their minds.
I can agree this is like one of the first times i have heard a guy say they don't like it, most people i have known have loved it. I never really thought there was such a thing as bad head, cause it always feels good to me. But maybe those guys that don't like it have had like really bad experiences with it or maybe something like weird happened, that's what i would think Haha. I know to each there own and everyone likes what they like, but not liking head that is something i have always found hard to believe, then again i really love it. It really is good when your with a person that you can tell they really love giving head or just liking what they do and pleasuring, it can make the experience all the more better.
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I actually have dated two men that did not really enjoy receiving oral sex from a woman. They received more satisfaction from giving oral stimulation. I know it wasn't from my lack of experience or expertise, have had enough complements in that arena, it's just how they are wired. Everyone has what turns them on, off, etc.
I remember an old freind of mine said he had a bad experience with a girl that made him not like vagina's. Vagina's are beautiful and i couldn't understand how he didn't like the look of them. He wouldn't go into detail about it but he said something happened to make him not like the looks of them or something, it was weird. And that's true everyone has there turn on's and turn off's. I guess when you like something so much it is hard to understand how someone may not like it. Lol
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I think that if the OP is getting his info from porn only it's definitely going to be skewed. I have seen a few pornos where the women are giving head and the guys are pushing themselves so hard down the women's throats that the women are gagging and spitting up phlegm. I find that completely disgusting and I hate it. I enjoy giving head sometimes more than other times - there are various factors - his size, how emotionally connected I am to him, how turned on I am by him, etc. It's never a one size fits all situation. Unfortunately I think porn gives some men a distorted reality of how they think women should act, perform and or feel about certain sexual acts. As others have said before - to each his own - maybe some women like the gagging thing but not for me, thanks!
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