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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    But, only five hours only for find this simple and old article? it is not bad but not too much. I dont think that makes you an expert in baroque painting and history of XVII. By the way. Are you able to put Madrid in the map. I dont ask about Avilés, of course. Please tell me if we have to...
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    By the way. We dont know the age of Eugenia in this portrait. But in XVII Century in Europe, one is consider a woman or men with 10-13 years and old with 25 y o and probably dead with 30 or more. Just a few people arrive to 40 or 50 years old. Angel, please how many paintigns we have to...
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    This article it is not like the bible. Anyway i can find another with different facts. It is not clear the age. It is not clear the year (1660? 16980) The name of the picture was not of course the original one. I didnt start this threat. Anyway, please if you go to Europe tell us first how...
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    Compare the respect of Carreño with the ironic and of course not friendly approach that Goya did in his portrait of Fernando VII of Spain.
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    Sarcastic point of view were usual in painters during XV, XVI and XVII Century. For example the Dutch master El Bosco. "Jardin de las delicias".
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    Jes I didnt put the painting of Carreño de Miranda. It is not clear the age of Eugenia, because it is not clear if was paited in 1660 or 1680. Of course there is no evidence if she suffers prader willi. Portraits not were always realistic. But maybe you are expert in European History and...
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    We have i mind the idea than most movies trasltate about the Court and people use to be laugh at. But it is not true. We have to think in XVII people society. All people who belong the Court were privilege. They didnt have to make love but yes be friends of the child of the kings, for example...
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    Portrait by Van Dyck.
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    http://www.scptfe.com/inic/download.php?idfichero=516 More information. Eugenia arrived to Madrid in 1680 no 1660.
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    It is not clear if she is a child and the date. It suppose to be painted in 1660 by Carreño de Miranda (1614-1685) but it is not clear. So the canvas was painted one our before Carlos II was king in 1661. So he coudt join the court with 6 years old. That kind of topics are usual in any...
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    [ http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_II_de_Espa%C3%B1a
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    Yes and not. Some of them became powerful and with influence in the Court. They live there and at the end know the secrets. So it is not exactly our XXI century point of view as you can see if you read the liteture like Quixote or Lazarillo. It is very well portrayed in the wonderful french film...
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    Carreño de Miranda portrait the people around the Crownd. All kind of people. Carlos II herself was disabled. His portraits, also by Carreño are full of mistery but also sorrow. It is also this characters in any XVII painting and literature not only in Spain, over Europe. You can see it in...
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    I am agree with Jes.
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    First monumental SSBBW in history

    Jes. You are right.
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