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I had the discussion here a loooong time ago about why we FAs seem to search out obscure movies, books, mags, etc for wank fodder, when the whole internet is there for us with - as you said - actual porn. My theory is that for those of us who were young FAs pre-internet, the lack of real FA-centered erotica forced us to play detective, searching out little scenes and passages of fat women to get our jollies. So the "search" found its way into our adult consciousness and is now tied into our sexuality. Or something like that.

Actual BBW porn back in the 80s was awful - made by non-FAs and really hateful and unappealing. The places in Times Square used to put the stuff in the "fetish" aisles.
Hmm.. maby, i like the idea of being a sexual detective! lmao. I think maby also, like you said a lot of the porn in earlier years was pretty degrading. Actually, i was looking at porn titles on my payperview and the fat porn was all called stuff like 'filthy fat slags 5' ..which really made me cringe and would make me just not want to watch it... well if i did watch it, it would be with an air of superiority and i would write to complain! :p
I think a lot of the reasons why i love seeing bbws in actual films is because it puts them in a real context somehow. I think very few Fa's 'only' like big women for athstetic reasons, there is definatly something deeper there and for that reason a social context for 'fat' is really important. I could be wrong though..
 

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I forgot to add: MRS HOGGET FROM BABE!! I loved her :)
 

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I agree... The original "Hairspray" is waaaaaay better than the new one. Early works with Ricki Lake are a treasure trove for FAs, in fact. My favorite is "Babycakes," which is all about the main character's struggles with her perception of her body. And she is gorgeous in her "China Beach" appearances.

This is a great thread, there are a bunch of movies I have to seek out now!
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Also, Dawn French was in a kinna tv film called something like 'sex and chocolate'. It was pretty good but i imagine i only thought this because i love Dawn French!.
 

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Can anyone forget Hattie Jacques or Joan Sims from the Carry On series?

Carry on Doctor Again has a great plot where Sid James says the immortal line "Out here we like 'em big!"
 

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Hmm.. maby, i like the idea of being a sexual detective! lmao. I think maby also, like you said a lot of the porn in earlier years was pretty degrading. Actually, i was looking at porn titles on my payperview and the fat porn was all called stuff like 'filthy fat slags 5' ..which really made me cringe and would make me just not want to watch it... well if i did watch it, it would be with an air of superiority and i would write to complain! :p
Wow, what sort of payperview is that? I was in a hotel room alone a few weekends ago and searched through the "adult" options without much hope. There were a few things that had the word "supersized" in the title, but were illustrated with skinny models! I didn't want to pay my $10 and then have to have the discussion with the front desk, "Well, hey, listen ma'am, it SAID supersized!"

I think a lot of the reasons why i love seeing bbws in actual films is because it puts them in a real context somehow. I think very few Fa's 'only' like big women for athstetic reasons, there is definatly something deeper there and for that reason a social context for 'fat' is really important. I could be wrong though..
I don't think you're wrong at all. I have nothing to gain by shining their shoes, but I think massive props have to go to 'Rad and Ruby of Dimensions as the true pioneers in terms of figuring out that sensual, realistic depictions of BBWs were what FAs really wanted. The magazine showed models in lingerie and bathing suits, and their clothes, and always interviewed them and showed them as real people. Seeing them that way made them infinitely sexier, even if the layouts were strictly PG-13. Then the Dims' "Wide Angle" videos continued that aesthetic, which became the standard template. It would be great if they could be revived and sold via clips4sale or whatever. Hint hint.
 

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Wow, what sort of payperview is that? I was in a hotel room alone a few weekends ago and searched through the "adult" options without much hope. There were a few things that had the word "supersized" in the title, but were illustrated with skinny models! I didn't want to pay my $10 and then have to have the discussion with the front desk, "Well, hey, listen ma'am, it SAID supersized!"
LOl. Oh its 'virgin media',(my cable company) there is an adult section. I have only ever watched two 'fat pornos' and i had to cover my eyes for the most part cause i was sure it would ruin my sexuality!! I couldnt understand why fat and 'mature' were given the same billing!? Like in one scene there would be vaugly hot big women..having a food fight and doing some really bad acting, then in the next scene there would be really old women doing it with some dirty looking guy with a moustache. I dont think it was made by Fa's :(
The second porno was just as bad and the women in it were skanky and skinny..I know that sounds awful of me.. but really.. the bedsheets were a horrible colour and it really depressed me!!
If ever i was to consider watching Fat porn again.. It would have to be made by Fa's for Fa's and the women would have to look pretty and clean and the linen in the bedrooms would have to look clean and not like it was from the 80's! I'm fussy that way! :D
 

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I forgot to add: MRS HOGGET FROM BABE!! I loved her :)
Magda Szubanski, has lost a fair bit of weight these days. She actually does the ads for Jenny Craig weight loss centres.:(
 

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"Fat Girl" looks Interesting...Has anyone seen it??
 

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"Fat Girl" looks Interesting...Has anyone seen it??
NO, but i would like to.
I also loved 'ma larkin' (pam ferris) in 'the darling buds of may'.. technically its not a film but she is always very decedant and eats roast chicken dinners in the bath. I actually read the book 'The pa larkin chronichals' which is a Total Fa book! Anyway, Pam ferris is also in 'Matilda' but she is kinna scary in that.. still hot though!!
 

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LOl. Oh its 'virgin media',(my cable company) there is an adult section. I have only ever watched two 'fat pornos' and i had to cover my eyes for the most part cause i was sure it would ruin my sexuality!! I couldnt understand why fat and 'mature' were given the same billing!? Like in one scene there would be vaugly hot big women..having a food fight and doing some really bad acting, then in the next scene there would be really old women doing it with some dirty looking guy with a moustache. I dont think it was made by Fa's :(
The second porno was just as bad and the women in it were skanky and skinny..I know that sounds awful of me.. but really.. the bedsheets were a horrible colour and it really depressed me!!
If ever i was to consider watching Fat porn again.. It would have to be made by Fa's for Fa's and the women would have to look pretty and clean and the linen in the bedrooms would have to look clean and not like it was from the 80's! I'm fussy that way! :D
I was waiting for Sir Richard to just say sod it and get into porn. Seemed like a logical step.

After spending way too much in XXX places in the 80s and early 90s only to get tapes I couldn't get through 15 minutes with, I eventually figured out I hate porn in general. When I'm getting my groove on I really don't want to see men or their mustaches or their penises, nor medical school closeups of female genitalia, nor women being humiliated, nor lurid lighting setups, nor depressing 80s bedroom decor, etc. I don't expect these things to all be Citizen Kane, but what's with all the bad vibes? There are obviously some angry motherfuckers out there.
 

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"Fat Girl" looks Interesting...Has anyone seen it??
Yes. Don't be mislead by the title, which is "For My Sister" everywhere else but the US. The film is good, but disturbing and problematic. The protagonist is 12 years old, and there's much sadness and violence involved. I think you'd have to create quite a disconnect between yourself and the plot to find this film even remotely erotic.
 

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You didn't like Hairspray!? I loved it - only thing that, to this day I don't get, is why Travolta played her mom?? Maybe it made some kind of comedic sense when the play or whatever was first written when men playing women was still considered novel but nowadays it's just lame. I have the exact same problem with Tyler Perry's Medea - just get a fat woman to do the part!!! But Zac Efron - Yummmmmm!

If you havent seen it - Jill Scott in Why did I get Married looks amazing! Her character does lose some weight but she in no way becomes a small woman. I thoroughly enjoyed that movie - and her studly love interest :eat2:
Apparently, it's a tradition that a man plays Edna Turnblad.
 

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I agree... The original "Hairspray" is waaaaaay better than the new one. Early works with Ricki Lake are a treasure trove for FAs, in fact. My favorite is "Babycakes," which is all about the main character's struggles with her perception of her body. And she is gorgeous in her "China Beach" appearances.

This is a great thread, there are a bunch of movies I have to seek out now!
Brenda
I've posted this before, but I must profess my love of the original German version, Sugarbaby (1985). It's tragically dated (she falls in love with a breakdancer/subway conductor for example), but it stars Marianne Saegebrecht, who is one of my all time favorite BBWs. Another of her films, Bagdad Cafe, is in my top ten. She's funny and sexy- it's fantastic.
 

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Yes. Don't be mislead by the title, which is "For My Sister" everywhere else but the US. The film is good, but disturbing and problematic. The protagonist is 12 years old, and there's much sadness and violence involved. I think you'd have to create quite a disconnect between yourself and the plot to find this film even remotely erotic.
I'm much more interested in finding biographic, satirical and situational type fat girl movies. Usually the blacker the story the better I like it so now "Fat Girl" sounds even more interesting.
 

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I'm much more interested in finding biographic, satirical and situational type fat girl movies. Usually the blacker the story the better I like it so now "Fat Girl" sounds even more interesting.
Well, if you find sexual violence perpetrated against pre-teen females erotic, be my guest.

But if you're looking to appreciate an interesting film that focuses on a fat girl, it's well worth a watch!
 

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I've posted this before, but I must profess my love of the original German version, Sugarbaby (1985). It's tragically dated (she falls in love with a breakdancer/subway conductor for example), but it stars Marianne Saegebrecht, who is one of my all time favorite BBWs. Another of her films, Bagdad Cafe, is in my top ten. She's funny and sexy- it's fantastic.
OH!! Wasn't she also in 'Rosalie goes shopping'?? I loved that film!! I watched it when i was wee and i think it was the first time i have watched a film where one of the characters was quite obviously an Fa. I loved the protaganist too of course and the film itself if pretty funny.
 

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OH!! Wasn't she also in 'Rosalie goes shopping'?? I loved that film!! I watched it when i was wee and i think it was the first time i have watched a film where one of the characters was quite obviously an Fa. I loved the protaganist too of course and the film itself if pretty funny.
Yep, that's her! :)
 

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Yep, that's her! :)
Oh, i love her.. i will need to track down the other films you said she was in. hmmm.. wonder if she has been in anything recently?. Imdb later i think!! Also, the actress who played muriels mum in murels wedding was in a pretty cool film called 'strange fruit' and there were 3 other bbw actresses including the star of another Australian film called 'sweetie' which was directed my Jane campinion (the piano). Sweetie is maby one of my fave films ever..its sort of disturbing but beautiful too.
 

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Also, the actress who played muriels mum in murels wedding was in a pretty cool film called 'strange fruit' and there were 3 other bbw actresses including the star of another Australian film called 'sweetie' which was directed my Jane campinion (the piano). Sweetie is maby one of my fave films ever..its sort of disturbing but beautiful too.
"Soft Fruit" - I mentioned it as part of my FA film festival earlier. Good movie, with a very realistic depiction of complicated family dynamics. Most summaries make it sound like it's gonna be sappy and melodramatic, but it's not, because the characters are so realistic and well-drawn. It's also rare in that weight issues are dealt with head-on, but don't represent the whole focus of the movie.
 

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