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agouderia

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This is one of the better stories on the forum. The idea that you guys are trying to appeal to some higher notion of literature is laughable at best.

I honestly find the brand of 'high literature' mentioned that you are trying to encourage dry, dull and riddled with purple prose. CraVe is vivid in imagery, simple in language and easy to read. The beats are strong. The dialogue hits REALLY hard. It's a plotline we've all probably read a thousand times before but uses strong language and feeling to effectively bring the concept to life. Bad writing elicits no reaction or get skipped.

Stories like this made the BBW community, and this community. Censor them and you'll probably lose most of your followers.
This is your opinion and you're entitled to your opinion.

Nevertheless - this is a Library and as any Library caters to many reading tastes and interests, not only yours or one specific kind. If you want that, go to a speciality store or library.


It's not about high literature, but maintaining a minimum standard of grammatically correct written and thus readable English. Requirements roughly on par with high school or college newspaper - that's what I think adult readers can expect.

And as moderators we put some effort into formatting and editing to reach that standard with stories where we see the author had put work, ideas and a personal passion into them as well as there's an audience for a certain type of story here. Regardless of whether we personally like the story or not.


I doubt we'd be getting the same cry of "It's Degrading to Women" if it was a terrible "She ate lots food, got fat" type of writing that's so prevalent here. There's art in doing these kinds of stories well. It stems from desire and emotion. Is it politically correct? No, that's not the point. But I'd say it's a pretty strong indications of the authors wants and needs, and art is expression. I don't think it's right to reject it because it doesn't fit with some kind of social justice ethical standard you choose to frame the world with. Not everything needs to be in service to the cause. Sometimes stuff can just be fun.

There's plenty of erotica here that's degrading to women, particularly in the original Dimensions library. It's erotica. Many women enjoy the idea of being degraded. You can find evidence of this from Harlequin romance novels to 50 Shades to mainstream pornography.
The sanitized writing of Harlequin romances or mainstream soft porn targeted at female audiences has nothing to do with some of the degrading imagery women have to read here and on many other specialty boards on the internet. And you will find very few female readers truly comfortable with that.

On here the issue always boils down to a male-female antagonism and the question of male perceptions of women as we have literally no gay fetish BHM writing. If we did, I am sure we would have a few more discussions on male degradation too.

This is another edition of the age old clash on Dims of (partially very kinky) male fat fetishism, paysite modelling who work with those fetishes and 'regular' BBWs who simply are looking for a place for exchange, contact, resources and friendship.

Balancing those interests is not easy - in the Library we try to give all (in standard English) written expressions a forum as long as all other interest groups with an adequate level of tolerance can stomach them and still look each other in the eye. Side note: There also are a few legal aspects we need to keep in mind, as far as explicit pornography, vore and violence go, by the way.


And of course, considering some of the other stories that slip through the fingers of the various Dims editors over the years, this story has been unfairly singled out and compromised because of ?? I am still wondering. No apology from the original malcontent who could have simply stopped reading, none from the editor, who weighed in on the issue only enough to add fuel to the fire, and a story that joins so many others in the "Ain't finished" category!
Apologies for legitimate opinions stated in a civil form are not necessary nor common here on Dims. This is a discussion forum with partially pretty extreme opinions on rather extreme issues.

A discussion usually ignites on an actual case, not abstract considerations - 'singling out' is not the case. Especially since we as library moderators had already extensively discussed some of the issues voiced here publicly with the author behind the scenes. I cannot tell whether this story is finished or not, it seems to have progressed well beyond the usual 'ain't finished' stage we find here - and is convincing as an open-ending leaving room for more fantasies on the reader's side.

There is no such thing as the one true faith in WG fiction writing - as long as the very basic legal and editorial standards are met, let everybody be happy in their section.
 

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I don’t know if those of you complaining really understand. The goal is often faux-humiliation, something that is pleasurable and a turn on to both parties, and a mocking of societal norms (the perspectives through which you likely see most things and this). This mocking though in itself is actually a subversion of ideas and terms, in a fairly simple circle. The society binds us, creating tension. We live by it to be accepted and continue living. There are terms for what we want that are extremely pejorative and insulting in normal society, partially because society dislikes, rejects, and so fervently does not want them. But they describe what we actually do want, and so inevitably we subvert them and their associated notions, releasing the tension in a way that thus becomes intensely sexual. For some, this is associated with a freedom from guilt, and that is where, IMHO, the most hardcore stories come from, rape and force-feeding fantasies. But my favorite, and the favorite of many, is the safety, not the negative view of not feeling guilty, but the positive view of being accepted, particularly in a community that appreciates the depth and origin of such sentiments, and most especially with a partner who wholly ‘gets’ you, who feels the same pressures and tensions, and the same needs for release and acting out societal evils and oppressions in a way that is positive (in the sense of okay in the in-group), freeing, inclusive (accepted AND desired), and loving. A space where feedees, FAs, feeders, can be fed/fattened, appreciate fat and fantasy, and feed, even feel societal guilt, but in a way that is safe and mocking of its strictures, can fill their desires not without respect for society, but in intentional and open, liberating, disregard. Name calling thus inherits a triple meaning: The original societal meaning (wherefrom most of your worry originates), the subversion of it to cause intense arousal and develop a micro-society in which its purpose is actually not the original controlling and oppressing, but now freeing if not empowering, and lastly, the new meaning in this new society, where ‘fat’ is now ‘beautiful’, ‘chubby’ is ‘self-aware and intentional’, ‘obese’ is ‘confident, both in self and living in our world’, ‘pig’ is ‘an object of desire, intent on sexuality and pleasure’, and every one of them means ‘sexy’, ‘soul-searching’, and ‘aware of society’s rules, their paradoxes and absurdities and oppressions, and the desire, at least, to live in society and yet not be bound by it in the bedroom if you and your partner so choose’.
:);):wubu::rolleyes::D
 
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