Fattening Up in Fourteenth-Century Cairo (reading available in both ENG. & FR. versions)

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    Fattening Up in Fourteenth-Century Cairo
    Ibn al-Ḥāǧǧ and the Many meanings of Overeating
    Marion Holmes Katz

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    Over the past several decades, the problem of obesity has attracted overwhelming attention in the popular and scholarly press. Partially in reaction to the medical conceptualisation of healthy body weight as a biological universal, scholars have directed increasing attention to the historical and cultural specificity of the social meanings of fat. This article focuses on an account by the Mamluk-era scholar Ibn al-Ḥāǧǧ (d. 737/1336) of contemporary Egyptian women’s systematic cultivation of ample bodies, which has until now received little scholarly attention. Ibn al-Ḥāǧǧ’s discussion places the issue of intentional over-eating within several different interpretive frames, including religious law, erotic ideals and medicine.

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    https://journals.openedition.org/anisl/3059
     
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    Wow, really interesting! What's described there is not just plumpness but rather the conscious pursuit of bona-fide obesity.

    I had a friend years ago in college who was an attractive Greek borderline SSBBW. She mentioned that she was traveling in Egypt with her family when a man approached her father about marrying her! So I suspect a certain cultural fondness for well-rounded ladies has never really gone away :)
     
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    It is certainly a preeminent cultural pattern. Like does abovelined the thesis, the cultivation of fatness has been very trendy over the Middle East prior then during much of the Islamic era before to undergo a decline, certainly due or related to Westernization (yet an already long-ethablished rampant female fat-shaming trend was spreading over the predominantly-male Islamic inteligentsia starting eighteth century A.D.) .

    However, it seems that some details here and there along the text let to conclude the very trend in question was already indigenous to the various Berbers/Maghrebis ethnic groups spread over Northern, Transaharian then Sahelian Africa, alike the Egyptians prior to the Arab conquest, so to speak that the cultivation of fat amd its prenuptial alike eroticizing ends was certainly preexistent in various parts of the African continent prior their integration to the Islamic world. Which pick up my curiosity, since this very point sounds like a cultural trend located light-years aaay from the pharaonic era and its 3000-years long, dogmatically founded body standards about the ideal Egyptian woman who must looking tallish, lithe and stalky yet delicatly callipygous and a little bustied; to the opposite of their contemporary neighboring ancient Lybian, Nubian then ancient Ethiopian populations - all considered like their closet kin accordingly the concerned kingdom's historical and mythological claims firsthand then a multicentury-old plethora of present-time scientific evidence about it - whom all emphasized the beautification of plumpness nay full-blown rotundness in the meantime; or the latter ancient Greeks then Romans and their ideal about statuesque yet moderably ample women. Which certainly meant that this trend over Egypt prior them during the Islamic era must likely beem the result of multiple factors of cultural exchange external to the pharaonic era, much likely originate from either other parts of Africa and/or the Middle East alike Southern Europe. Yet, the Greek-Roman era wasn't such fond about bonafide female obesity, while in the meantime we still found precolonial rituals of beautification practised by various clans and ethnic groups over Transaharian then Subsaharian Africa encouraging prenubile-to-full-grown girls and women to fatten up/been fattened up themselves till broad, even extreme proportions and these same practises and trends does continue to transpire even among many urban-dwelling people in spite the somehow-to-much Westernized ambiance within all these big cities with the still-resulting social pressure exercized against women to plump out their buttocks to ample, massive nay cartoonish proportions.
     

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