It sounded like he was booted because he was the last passenger on? Because they needed the seat for another passenger who'd bought a second seat? However, unless those two people he sat between were who'd bought the extra seat, how did booting him help that situation? If you read the follow up, he's talked with a rep, Linda, who said it had nothing to do with his size... except that apparently according to the one gate agent, it did. They really need to figure out what their story is and stick with it. They look like morons.Exactly, that gate agent dropped the ball in a very big way. I'm guessing its not too fun for her at work right now.
BTW, I'm glad you checked in on this issue. You can see things from both sides, which is usually helpful for us to understand it from the airline's perspective.
It does seem pretty subjective. Again, from the follow up, they claim that the women on either side of him were "leaning away" from him, but he claims they were already doing that (one was sleeping against the wall and the other was leaning into the aisle) before he sat down. Also, I routinely lean away from the middle person while they're getting settled because getting settled requires maneuvering and they -- even thin people -- need the extra room, usually. Is that an indictment on their size? No.There are a couple of problems with enforcing this type of policy, one being that everyone views "too fat" in very different ways. I can pretty much guarantee that me and a coworker can look at the very same fat passenger and have two very different opinions about whether or not the 2nd seat policy needs to be enforced.
Have they ever considered having a mock up of a seat in a private area where people can test out the seats? That seems like it might solve some of the problems, for people who are borderline. Also, I wonder... will they ever make a body builder or football player buy a second seat because their bulky shoulders 'encroach'? I'm guessing not. But it's easy to pick on the fat person.
Yeah, to really understand, you need to listen to the whole thing. The first 15 minutes are just him kvetching, not telling the whole story. It was a PITA -- kept buffering -- but I'm glad I listened to it because the whole thing is just so egregiously awful. I'm not a huge Kevin Smith fan (loved Dogma but that's about it) but his treatment was horrible, and what they did to the young lady was worse. But unfortunately, to get there you have to sit through a lot of silly stuff.CS, I did listen to his smodcast - at least, the first 15 minutes or so.
I see your point. He isn't exactly the most... sympathetic ... poster boy for fat acceptance while flying, is he? But at least he's speaking out, which I think is good. There may be a backlash but the people who say negative shit would have done that anyway because either a) they hate Kevin Smith, b) they hate fat people, or c) both.I'm not sure that Kevin Smith's outraged tweets -- especially as they went on and on -- is going to do a thing towards changing that perspective. I'm already naturally inclined to supporting a 'fat passenger bill of rights' and his behavior made me think nothing more than that he's a gigantic gaping a-hole.
Nah, what he said was that if he needed two seats he'd have bought them. But that he felt that he wasn't *that* fat, meaning not fat enough to need two seats. He has bought two seats in the past for his own privacy, and because he has the money. Not because he's too fat and needs them. Clearly he hates being fat and isn't going to join Dimensions and sing fat kum bay yah, but he's outraged at another fat person being treated like shit for being fat which I think is pretty cool.Speaking of size acceptance, have you seen his latest remarks? Something along the line of, "Ok, yeah, I'm a fatty but I'm not THAT fat." Oh really, Kevin? So if you were "one of those" fatties, getting ejected from your flight would have been just fine?