Don't get all reactionary Paquito, I am fat I accept fatness as a result of my undying love of cheese. I have no problem with that, nor anyone else on here or in real life for that matter. No fat hate from me. I didnt mean to offend anyone at all, apologies if my words were misinterpreted and did so, really. I know I am an arsehole and am tough with this, but I can't suffer fools nor do I have time to subscribe to excuse making blame shifting selfish buzz busters that are either fat or thin. P.s I have had recent leg surgery that I have to pack a wound daily still. I think it has a month to go (hopefully) When it's done, I ask anyone willing to try with me, will require an honest commitment for 6 weeks - a change in their eating habbits and the implementation of excercise then we can see factual evidence.