avatargurumaster
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I hate to burst some of your bubbles that the world will somehow instantly be a better place if the Republicans win tomorrow but, at best, you will see little or no changes. Things may even get worse
If the Republicans take control, the total deficit will continue to grow. They are not reducing spending that much, if at all, and want to cut revenue. They may be successful in lowering any given year's deficit but deficit spending will continue and the overall debt total will continue to grow. You can't cut in to the total debt without severe, across the board cuts and tax increases. If the Democrats retain control, the total deficit will continue to grow also.
If the Republicans take control, there will be no change to immigration policy. There will be an amnesty bill within the next 2 years that will pass with bi-partisan support. The funds do not exist to support a huge round up/deportation effort. Plus, construction and agriculture lobbies are pretty powerful. Amnesty would increase tax revenues as undocumented workers and the companies that hire them would have to pay up. This will help them justify maintaining tax breaks for the rich.
If the Republicans take control, the current recovery will continue at about the same pace. They will not create any more jobs than Democrats did because many of the jobs lost in the last 10 years have been automated out of existence. Without penalties for offshoring, recovery will continue to be slow. Sorry to all of you who want to blame job losses on healthcare reform but there are no companies in the US letting orders go unfilled or putting off new, revenue generating projects because they don't know how much healthcare will cost them next year. It sounds nice and scary but it simply isn't true.
The healthcare bill which has been falsely named obamacare isn't the job killing bill that the republicans say it is.Very few people actually know what the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act actually do. The acts, which are known as obamacare, do 5 main things; Patients with preexisting conditions cannot be denied for healthcare; college students may stay on their parents healthcare plan until they are 26; All adults must have some form of healthcare or must suffer a tax penalty; All companies with more than 50 employees must provide some kind of health care coverage; Self employed and unemployed people may buy healthcare in markets from companies that do not usually serve their region.
The healthcare bill actually saves the government and tax payers money. Since all citizens are required to have some form of healthcare the state doesn't have to pay when a person goes to the hospital and they don't have insurance. The government would actually spend 1 trillion dollars on the bill but recoup 1.17 billion dollars in savings. So the government will actually walk away with 170 billion dollars in surplus money from the bill which disproves the notion that the healthcare reform is enlarging the deficit. The health care bill also doesn't hurt small business. only business with less than 50 employees are effected. So your local grocery store will not go out of business because of this. Only larger corporations which would otherwise be able to afford to do this anyway.
If Republicans take control, your taxes will stay the same as they are now. If Democrats take control, your taxes will stay the same as they are now. If Democrats do raise taxes on the top 1%, it will have no impact on jobs. The argument that the rich create jobs and they won't if their taxes go up is bull--they haven't become poorer and have reduced jobs. If anything it will motivate them to invest their money even more so that they can make up for the lost money. If demand goes up and productivity per employee stays the same, jobs will be created. Any rich person would rather pay 35% taxes on 30% revenue growth than pay 30% taxes on flat revenue.
If Republicans take control, there will be little to no change in entitlement programs. They will not risk 2012. Outside of Medicare and SS, which are politically untouchable, entitlements aren't a big enough chunk of the budget to make any real difference anyway. These programs are not funded by tax revenue as republicans would like voters to believe. Workers pay a portion of their paycheck every pay day to pay for their own personal Medicare, social security, and unemployment. These programs are not funded by taxes and therefore are not a form of welfare. Taking away benefits such as Medicare and Social Security would be illegal. American citizens paid for those benefits over the course of their working careers. They are entitled to the benefits that they have payed for.
If Republicans take control, major initiatives will be held up by inclusion of anti-abortion and other right wing social controls that will be included simply to make Obama veto an otherwise good bill and to cause division among the democrats. Then they will be able to parade those vetoes around in 2012 without telling the whole truth. Yes, Dems have done it too and it is a complete waste of time and resources.
So if you want things to get better don't vote for either party. Neither party supports a platform that supports you or any other normal american. The ideal canidate would be one that supports:
-healthcare bill
-increase taxes on the rich(not the middle class)
-conservative values that most americans can identify with
-immigration reform
-increasing taxes on companies that outsource(so that its cheaper to hire american workers)
-increase in education funding(in the emerging knowledge based economy only the people with some post secondary education will be able to remain competative. The people who are uneducated make up 80% of the unemployed)
-protecting entitlement plans
If the Republicans take control, the total deficit will continue to grow. They are not reducing spending that much, if at all, and want to cut revenue. They may be successful in lowering any given year's deficit but deficit spending will continue and the overall debt total will continue to grow. You can't cut in to the total debt without severe, across the board cuts and tax increases. If the Democrats retain control, the total deficit will continue to grow also.
If the Republicans take control, there will be no change to immigration policy. There will be an amnesty bill within the next 2 years that will pass with bi-partisan support. The funds do not exist to support a huge round up/deportation effort. Plus, construction and agriculture lobbies are pretty powerful. Amnesty would increase tax revenues as undocumented workers and the companies that hire them would have to pay up. This will help them justify maintaining tax breaks for the rich.
If the Republicans take control, the current recovery will continue at about the same pace. They will not create any more jobs than Democrats did because many of the jobs lost in the last 10 years have been automated out of existence. Without penalties for offshoring, recovery will continue to be slow. Sorry to all of you who want to blame job losses on healthcare reform but there are no companies in the US letting orders go unfilled or putting off new, revenue generating projects because they don't know how much healthcare will cost them next year. It sounds nice and scary but it simply isn't true.
The healthcare bill which has been falsely named obamacare isn't the job killing bill that the republicans say it is.Very few people actually know what the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act actually do. The acts, which are known as obamacare, do 5 main things; Patients with preexisting conditions cannot be denied for healthcare; college students may stay on their parents healthcare plan until they are 26; All adults must have some form of healthcare or must suffer a tax penalty; All companies with more than 50 employees must provide some kind of health care coverage; Self employed and unemployed people may buy healthcare in markets from companies that do not usually serve their region.
The healthcare bill actually saves the government and tax payers money. Since all citizens are required to have some form of healthcare the state doesn't have to pay when a person goes to the hospital and they don't have insurance. The government would actually spend 1 trillion dollars on the bill but recoup 1.17 billion dollars in savings. So the government will actually walk away with 170 billion dollars in surplus money from the bill which disproves the notion that the healthcare reform is enlarging the deficit. The health care bill also doesn't hurt small business. only business with less than 50 employees are effected. So your local grocery store will not go out of business because of this. Only larger corporations which would otherwise be able to afford to do this anyway.
If Republicans take control, your taxes will stay the same as they are now. If Democrats take control, your taxes will stay the same as they are now. If Democrats do raise taxes on the top 1%, it will have no impact on jobs. The argument that the rich create jobs and they won't if their taxes go up is bull--they haven't become poorer and have reduced jobs. If anything it will motivate them to invest their money even more so that they can make up for the lost money. If demand goes up and productivity per employee stays the same, jobs will be created. Any rich person would rather pay 35% taxes on 30% revenue growth than pay 30% taxes on flat revenue.
If Republicans take control, there will be little to no change in entitlement programs. They will not risk 2012. Outside of Medicare and SS, which are politically untouchable, entitlements aren't a big enough chunk of the budget to make any real difference anyway. These programs are not funded by tax revenue as republicans would like voters to believe. Workers pay a portion of their paycheck every pay day to pay for their own personal Medicare, social security, and unemployment. These programs are not funded by taxes and therefore are not a form of welfare. Taking away benefits such as Medicare and Social Security would be illegal. American citizens paid for those benefits over the course of their working careers. They are entitled to the benefits that they have payed for.
If Republicans take control, major initiatives will be held up by inclusion of anti-abortion and other right wing social controls that will be included simply to make Obama veto an otherwise good bill and to cause division among the democrats. Then they will be able to parade those vetoes around in 2012 without telling the whole truth. Yes, Dems have done it too and it is a complete waste of time and resources.
So if you want things to get better don't vote for either party. Neither party supports a platform that supports you or any other normal american. The ideal canidate would be one that supports:
-healthcare bill
-increase taxes on the rich(not the middle class)
-conservative values that most americans can identify with
-immigration reform
-increasing taxes on companies that outsource(so that its cheaper to hire american workers)
-increase in education funding(in the emerging knowledge based economy only the people with some post secondary education will be able to remain competative. The people who are uneducated make up 80% of the unemployed)
-protecting entitlement plans
