Discussion in 'The WLS Controversy (archive only)' started by HereticFA, Nov 13, 2017.
I had read about Mariah Carey's purported WLS somewhere else, too.
Aside from the more than deplorable body shaming aspect - what kind of medical professional performs such as invasive surgery like gastric sleeve on someone of Mariah Carey's relatively small size???
I actually know someone in Belgium, who had to gain (!!!) ten pounds to be eligible for WLS. She gained the weight, got WLS done - and now is depressed because she didn't magically turn into the size 6 beauty she expected to be.
It is only a question of time, before the first surveys of the negative long-term effects of WLS - especially on people who are not that large to begin with - can no longer be kept under wraps.
Many of the WLS centers are targeting people just like her. With 50 pounds or around there to lose. Insurance in the US is all over it, thinking they will profit in the long run from less size related issues. Someone definately sold them a faulty reality.
Possible unpopular opinion here:
Has anyone considered that Ms Carey, possessed of fortitude enough to become a superstar in the recording industry, possessed of the will to undertake that most grueling and under-appreciated of all endeavors -- motherhood -- is something other than a leaf to be blown about by the winds of public opinion?
She made this decision. Don't empower the hypocritical fat-shaming cowards infesting the YouTube comment sections by saying that they brought this about; That they broke her; That they won.
Ms Carey underwent a dangerous and ethically questionable medical procedure of her own free will, be it motivated by unhappiness, doubt, or the conscious pursuit of marketing herself as a more palatable version of femininity for the sake of making more money.
Yes, a large (although I suspect, and dearly hope, declining) number of people in society have a problem with women who actually take up some space, and yes, they have no right to inflict their ideals upon those whom they have chosen to celebritize, but we who may accept, prefer, glorify, or be of greater stature also have no right to anoint one as our champion.
To politicize those possessed of physical attributes of which we approve is as fallacious as to do so to those possessed of physical attributes we find unbecoming.
She is not ours. Never was.
Her body is her own, to do with as she chooses.
That said, it's a pity that she made such an ill-informed decision, the consequences of which she may well regret, as it was one that not only may hold in store deleterious effects on her health, but also one that may have been as unnecessary from a career standpoint as it was from a medical one.
Just my take on it.
FreeThinker - your opinion is not unpopular, but a realistic analysis of the dynamics.
Of course you are right - if anybody should have the agency to stand up to or simply ignore body-shaming, it is Mariah Carey.
My issue mainly is that such a massively invasive procedure as WLS nowadays is being performed without any, or maybe even against medical indications.
We all believe medicine is sound natural science - well it isn't.
It is social science - determined by health care system, cultural norms, social bias, fashions and the like.
30 years ago, doing a hysterectomy at the begin of menopause was considered the state of the art thing to do. Today, nobody sees it as a standard elective surgery anymore.
Likelihood is high - also because of the to be expected long-term complications - imo that WLS will go the same way.
Yes, your are so right
Medias are kidding: when Mariah Carey loses some weight, nobody care about her.
But when she gain some extra chub, everybody loses of their minds.
Mariah is the one who said she was bullied into the decision. I wasn't citing anyone else. Her own statement proves the trolls won.
The only real winners here are the Bariatric industry since they now have proof from a customer that hateful peer pressure works to encourage people to seek WLS. I expect to see an increase in anti-fat troll posts in social media forums as we go into the holidays. You know, "for their own good".
Unfortunate that she handed them that one.
She was the one who made the decision, though. She didn't have to give in to them.
Yes, she was bullied, but she was not bullied into the surgery. That was her choice.
I will not deny that she was treated unfairly. I cannot, however, accept her claims of martyrdom for something over which she had complete control.
She has every right to shame the shamers, but absolutely none to play the victim card. She has ownership of the decision to undergo the surgery, not them. She should be proud of one of two things:
Not giving in to the opinions of others, and refusing WLS, or
Choosing to have WLS because she has a right to self-determination when it comes to her body.
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