Dude, I am not into jhads!

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  1. Jun 18, 2012 #41

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    And here I was thinking I was special, and being singled out for attention from that nutball.:eek::D

    That creep has harrassed me over the years on Dimensions, MySpace, Facebook, YouTube, you name it! Ugh.:mad:

    He is probably some weedy little 30 year old creep that is pumping out these vile emails from his parent's basement.
     
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  2. Jun 18, 2012 #42

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    Ha! Shosh, that creep almost sounds like a profile for that "Imation 700" slimeball!
     
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  4. Jun 18, 2012 #44

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    He's totally anti-Jewish.:mad: I tried:rolleyes: to tell him early on that this stance cut:eek: him off from the best BBWs:bow: but his mind was made up.:shocked:
     
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    See:blush: that's the official story...:p the BEST-case scenario.:eek: I think he's an NSA lackey.:batting:
     
  6. Jun 18, 2012 #46

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    Its not racism if they hate everyone equally.
     
  7. Jun 19, 2012 #47

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    Mr Aladdin,

    I was a hippy 30 yrs ago. Most of us preferred to smoke dope and other choice drugs of choice, listen to rockin' tunes of protest, dress like slops, and talk trash. (Yes, we were a fine group as you can imagine.) If most of us were let outside of our neighborhoods, we would likely wander around lost as puppies and get arrested.

    As to eating dog, this is one of my main threats I used on my two pets. At least once a week, I tell one of them that I am cooking them for supper when they misbehave. I keep a #10 cast iron skillet handy for clobbering them at my discretion. The only problem is that this will be an expensive supper, to maintain my pack cost an indecent amount of money. They would cost more than Kobe beef if they were made into human food. I used that analogy in my quoted post because it was fresh on my mind.

    Speaking of quaint customs popping up around the world, there was a story in today's news that the Taliban is going to deny polio vaccines to children in the areas where drone planes are flying. When polio was at a peak in my country (1952), there were almost 60,000 cases reported that year. Over 3000 people died and over 20,000 were permanently paralyzed. Children the ages of 5-9 were most severly affected. There is nothing sadder than a five year old sentenced to a life with crutches or leg braces. What a brillant strategic move by savy men protecting their turf.
     
  8. Jun 19, 2012 #48

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    i guess i just misread you, I'm not praising the Taliban, its evident they are a horrible gruesome minority in a country who are insistent on keeping the poor people of a tortured land well and truly in the past and using religion as a means to justify this. Im sure the brave Americans will rush to the rescue of those poor 5-9 yr olds and your TV will show you the marines rescuing them, whilst justifying their nearly decade long invasion and helping safeguard all that mineral wealth to distribute fairly amongst the poor.

    Im guessing on your brief hippy journey you never learnt about the hippie trail, its a shame as some of those dog eaters have been around a hell of a long time before hippies, americans, islam and burkhas . The Taliban only came about in the mid 90s ironically after Soviet and American interference, and in the 70s Afghanistan was a safe, fascinating and beautiful place to travel with a rich cultural identity favoured by hippies from all over the world, much like Morocco was and still is today.

    The point though was, and again maybe i misread you but it sounded like you were using a huge sweeping generalisation to describe everyone in three countries as dog eating proud burkha wearers. The vast majority of the people there don't even want to wear burkhas, Hijabs or veils and for majorly impoverished people I have never heard of any of them eating canines. Similarly I'm sure most people in america aren't gun toting, squirrel eating rednecks who want to kill every turban wearer lol

    Occasionally it helps to step out of your little street and see some of the wide world, i know in the 60s it may have been difficult but in the modern age you could simply read, or research between the lines and try to find out a little more about the people and history of these countries before riding the bandwagon and being obsessed with muslim hating.

    Im guessing either yourself or your friends are going to give me a standard paranoid response about national security and weapons of mass destruction but i really really must go back to lurking lol i don't want to be warned or banned for making what i see as a valid point as i don't mean any harm or offence to any of you, just asking you to change your stereotypical images and in doing so help me to change mine :)
     
  9. Jun 19, 2012 #49

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    Very decent post, you make a lot of fine points. I personally think you have been reading to much Paul Bowels, because last time I was in Casablanca and Fes or Rabat it was hell. Seriously have you been in the last 10 years? And I am sure you can't be referring to Algeria?
     
  10. Jun 19, 2012 #50

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  11. Jun 19, 2012 #51

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    Hey Neddy!

    That damn creep never let up! Ugh.:mad:
     
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    Actually I don't know:confused: what's become of early Big Cutie model-of-Lithuanian-extraction 'Delaney':bow: but I gather that Loner wanked:shocked: to her comps:eat2: on a goodly number of occasions:rolleyes: before discovering her Judaism-status;) and has been tormented by cognitive dissonance:eek: ever since...:)
     
  13. Jun 28, 2012 #53

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    Alright, the "Hyde Park-esque" banter isn't normally something I have patience for, but when some f*ckwad is furiously spamming people with the words "Jihad" and it throws people in arms, I gotta say something.

    Does any of this seem a little like McCarthyism to anyone else??

    Now, I am not defending the guy in any way. He/she/it is clearly a lost misguided soul in need of a concept of something to follow. What really irritates me is when I see (and forgive me I didn't gloss in-depth enough on this entire topic) some of the bigoted comments directed toward the Islam Religion. Yes, "Jihad" is a post-9/11 household phrase, and thanks to media outlets (Fox, cough, Fox), it seems we have a tilted view on things. Are you really going to base your ideals on Christianity soley on David Koresh and Jonestown?!

    Let's fire up the 8mm and play some grainy black and white film for a second...

    A concept that a lot of people seem to overlook was the idiom of Abrahamic Religion. Hate to bust your bubble, narrow minded Bible-Thumper, but those weird raghead wearing folks over in the dusty mid East worship the same god you do. It really disgusts me that the predominant view of the Islam religion is that a bunch of backwards camel jocks that like crashing planes into buildings in the name of Mohammed. If you subtract Mecca's physical location, the cradle of the major players in the religious world is a little larger than the state of Texas. Like Sweet Tea and Collard Greens, an idea will stay largely localized, but will slowly spread. A man builds a giant boat, two critters of each type, world floods, and so on? Yep, not only is that story present in the Tzorrahs, Old Testament, and the Qu'ran, the Mesopotamians transcribed a similar tale in their Epic known as the Tales of Gilgamesh. So, those "towelheads" are that odd religious cousin that shows up to the family reunion of religions. Nobody is perfect.

    ...Now, on to the Jihad. As that tune "onward Christian soldier" drones in my head, it irritates me that again, common perception is that a Jihadist is a suicide bomb-wielding hijacker (for the record, our first hijacker was none other than D.B. Cooper -- you can thank Hezbollah's brutal killing of Robert Stethem in Beirut in 1986 for the pop-culture image we have now). "Jihad" translates to "Struggle". The whole concept of Jihad is to wage a holy war against the unbelievers in the MISSION of Mohammed. It's not to kill people in the name of Allah, Vishnu, Fred Rogers or Black Jesus, it's to uphold the basic concepts of being a righteous person in accordance with Islamic ideals. So, wait a second. Doesn't Billy Graham spread the word of God on TV late at night? Wouldn't that make Billy Graham (or, gasp, AL SHARPTON!?) a Jihadist?? Throw in a few millennia of warring tribes on the Arabian Peninsula, and it's easy to get lost in translation, or to change other's perception.

    Now, as far as the chauvinistic treatment of women this religion portrays, I am not going to argue with anyone on this. Out of the three big names in the religion game, the Muslim belief process is the youngest, postdating Chinese Jesus by seven centuries. It is however, the least changed. I don't know about you, but I remember seeing all the movies and cartoons depicting the Nativity, and it seems like Mary always some sort of head covering. You know, come to think of it, my mentor is Jewish, and he has that funny hat on the back of his head all the time, too. And here I thought all the time divorce was okay in the Christian world (thank you, King James)! Wait a minute, didn't women get the right to vote in the States less than a hundred years ago? Yep, chauvinism...

    ...Which leads me to one more thing. Afghanistan. I did two tours there. I don't know why we are there. I saw the people, despite it lacking in advancement, Afghanis contain lots of personal pride. Ask the seven year olds I met outside our camp who spoke perfect English. They gladly took our wooden scraps with heavily callused hands and used them to build their school! I do know this though. Long before the Afghani Royals were exiled to Rome in the Sixties (I think), war has been a part of this countrie's existence. Afghanistan has China to the East, the holy land to the West, the Eastern Bloc to the North, and the Arabian/Sinai Peninsulas/Africa to the south. It's a temporal junction. All sorts of trade routes converge there, and everyone wants control of that area. Hamid Karzi implemented the idea of an oil pipeline from the Black Sea to the Arabian Sea when he was on the board of directors at BP. Life is bad there now, but there are people who miss the Taliban, as crazy as that sounds. With the Taliban in power, one can leave a belonging on their doorstep and know it will be there in the morning. Order and discipline ruled, not a corrupt, weak government with a crooked police force. Yes, it is a travesty how people are treated there. I am not condoning how women are treated there, but again, a sanction of the human condition is interpretation. The Dari and Pasho speaking people interpreted the religion as we see it now. History didn't change the Islamic Belief Process like it did for Christianity (thank you, Constantine, King James, and Gutenberg). Yes, there are the extremists who contort an otherwise peaceful religion to their advantage, but that is NOT representative of the entire belief! I really wish more people would educate themselves before jumping to conclusions. Islam is a peaceful religion. You don't believe me? Then you must have never heard of the Crusades. ;)

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  14. Jun 29, 2012 #54

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    Conversion by the sword isn't my cup of tea, and I don't know any other religion that currently and in the mainstream dogma of the religion advocates the eradication of members of another religion, but hey.

    If you want some historical background for where things started to branch off, you might start by looking up the Almohads. Around the time when the power of Rome was starting to fragment and Europe was moving towards the Renaissance and a vigorous secular culture, the mainstream of Islamic culture was having a revival of fundamentalism and defining science and scholarship as subordinate and sometimes antithetical to religion.

    You're correct in that the dogma of the religion as a whole does not mean that there are not members of the religion who are beautiful people inside and out, well worth knowing, just like every religion has its fair share of horrible people. For me personally, my philosophy is that if the leader of a country and/or religion says repeatedly that his goal is to eradicate me and mine, I tend to believe they're sincere and should be dealt with accordingly.
     
  15. Jun 29, 2012 #55

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    P.S. Dear Iron Man, I really enjoyed looking at the photos on your facebook page which is linked to your DIMS profile. You have visited some really neat places in Spain and the Middle East. The seas are so pretty and the scenery looks neat. You and your buds often were riding motorcyles and bikes which is also very neat and must bring you close to the country. Riding with sunhats, sandals, and shorts and often drinking a brewsky.

    I have a question for you - do women in Islamic countries get to do these types of things? I am talking about riding motorcycles and wearing shorts and ride around the countryside exploring their world, sleeping under the stars? What is the penalty for women engaging in this type of behavior? Must women have a male relative as an escort?


    You also have a whole bunch of very beautiful young women in your friends on facebook. Do these women who live in the USA know of your beliefs about Islam? Have you talked to the young people with babies about your defense of the Middle East defenders? Just thought I'd ask..
     
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    You put way too much effort into flaming me. I am trying to get my point across. It's because of two tours in Afghanistan, and the blood spilled of some of my friends that we can enjoy the liberties of wearing flipflops, and drinking and enjoying life. I don't care what those beautiful women on my facebook think my perceptions of Islam truly is. My wife is beautiful as well. What are you trying to prove other than you have amazing e-stalking skills? :doh:
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  17. Jun 30, 2012 #57

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    Dear KFD,

    First thank you for your service. It is through efforts of brave men and women that we can live the life we do today. I in no way meant to demean your military service. I am very patriotic as is my family. My husband is a Vietnam veteran. My father is dead now, but he served in WWII in France. His brother and father were both in the army with him. One of my uncles served with the Marines in Iceland and then in the Pacific in WWII. Another uncle served in Korea. I have several other relatives still in service and some working as technical advisors. My grandfather was wounded by mustard gas in WWI (a fate common to many soliders). I spent several summers working as a volunteer in a VA hospital during the Vietnam War and saw the horrors many of our young men had to bear. Some wounds were visible, some wounds were mental and spritual.

    I was not trying to flame you either. As far as I can tell, the first shot was fired across my deck with your 1000 word essay demeaning things I hold dear and beliefs I feel strongly about. The main issue is women's rights and that includes equal rights with men around the world. I also believe we are not the world's police force, Lord knows we have enough problems at home that we can work on without messing in other countries territory.

    Writing for me is fun and challenging. I was answering you questions or statements from your previous essay or expose. Now I will do something that I have to use personal strength to do. I will shut up and go fishing. I am in the mood to have some catfish and they're biting in the pond. I have some live worms in the refrigerator next to the collards and cornbread and a tube or crickets in a cool place. Brim and catfish supper coming up. Posts to this thread ceasing. :eat2: :eat1: ;)
     
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    I don't think anyone directly posted what he had said.... but what he said wasn't about peace. It was anti-American, anti-Christanity, anti-Judiasm, and about war... at least, that's what I got from what I read of the rambling PM I got. I have Islamic friends, and it IS a peaceful religion... but what he was talking about wasn't peaceful.
     
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    I can't think of a single major religion that doesn't claim to be in favor of peace, love, and brotherhood. Nevertheless, their adherents regularly slaughter each other with gusto, and they seem likely to continue as long as any of them are standing. So perhaps the road to Hell IS paved with good intentions... :doh:
     
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    It's not e-stalking when you post your FB page on your Dims public profile.

    When you make a long (and to some, an incomprehensible and mainly subjective) statement, you consider it expressing yourself but why is it when she responds to you that she's a flaming unpatriotic stalker? That was rhetorical, by the way. My purely subjective opinion is that a response like yours is usually produced by someone with an overblown sense of entitlement and false superiority and serious control issues. (Breathlessly awaiting your ad hominem attacks) and thanks for serving!
     

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