How did you respond when health issues arose?

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  1. Feb 9, 2019 #1

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    When I started gaining serious weight I promised myself that I would stop or even start to lose weight when my obesity started seriously to affect my health. Once I was in the morbidly obese category I had periodic skin sores in the folds of my flesh, prominent stretch marks of course, and joint pains. But I thought that these were just normal for someone of my size. Then my sleep started to be disturbed as I developed sleep apnea. This was the first important test. Would I now moderate my liefstyle as I had promised to do only a few years before? Oh no! Soon to be installed by my bedside was a CPAP machine and mask. At first I found it uncomfortable but I soon became dependent on a mask to sleep normally and I take it wherever I go.

    It was the first piece of equipment on which I had become reliant but I drew the line on filling my house the special bariatric equipment. That would be just too shaming.

    Unsurprisingly, given my weight, I developed high blood pressure and high colestrol and was put on medication to control it. Previously I had been in dread of having to be dependent on medication for the rest of my life, particularly someone who was still in his mid-twenties. When the situation actually arose it did not bother me at all. So I have to take a few pills every day. Not a big deal.

    Then the joint pain became worse and it was clear that I had developed osteoarthritis in my knees. Shedding some pounds would obviously have helped but I take anti-inflamatories instead and my weight continues to rise.

    Even with the medication pain in my knees and starting in my hips and back have definitely slowed me down and I walk much shorter distances and take a car, escalator or lift whenever I can.

    What I had not appreciated that obesity affects both the production of testosterone and the circulation. You've guessed it...I now find it difficult to become erect and to maintain an erection which is a real bore. I have used a pump and medications but I would have preferred not have to resort to them. Without them I am just flacid.

    What I thought that I would resist I gave in to. I now have various pieces of equipment or furniture designed for the obese. Equipment like a long handled grabber to pick things off the floor or to help put on socks, long handled sponges for the shower and even a raised and strengthened seat on the toilet. With the sleep apnea I ordered a hospital style bed designed for a heavy occupant as I perferred having my torso raised rather that lying flat. Since then I have bought a recliner and dinning chairs which can take my weight. So another resolution has come to nothing.

    I have high blood sugar and am classed as pre-diabetic. Unless I radically change my ways, Type 2 diabetes is an inevitability. A few years ago the prospect of diabetes would have horrified me. Now I am completely resgned io it and know when it comes I will simply take the medication and try to contro; it as best I can. Indeed what I have read is that with discipline you can control it.

    In writing, I just wondered if others have had the same acceptance to the predictable consequences of obesity as I have had. It seems that it is just part and parcel of who I am and I am happy now to accept, in fact almost embrace, it.
     
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    I developed high blood pressure and high cholesterol too. I can barely reach over to trim my toenails brcause my belly is so big. I walk less and less due to hip pain and I huff and puff going up the few stairs I can’t avoid. My doctor assumes I have sleep apnea because of my size, which I do not have...yet.
     
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    While researching my desire to get fat in contrast to my fitness training, I found there is a balance an staying mobile and active and strong is the key to human healthy obesity. Sumo wrestlers being the model of that concept. Genetics factor in Move and eat. Or be eaten?
     
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    I’m pretty sure I’m committed to embarking on gaining weight this year. So far I haven’t stopped my self and I plan to be reasonable about it. The health consequences are a concern and I do plan to stay active to try to lessen them. I’m about 200 and want to aim for 250 to start and see how I fare. Maybe 300-350, I’m only 5’9” so I don’t know how my body will react. I do wonder if health issues will prohibit me from moving forward with my goal.
     
  5. Feb 11, 2019 #5

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    I developed lower back pain, which I didn't connect with my weight gain until I went to my doc and she (very nicely, no judgement) said that carrying a great deal of weight on your stomach puts a lot of strain on your lower back. I didn't try to lose any weight, just stopped wearing cowboy boots in favor of sneakers and started doing back extensions at the gym as well as going in the hot tub and the occasional hot shower at home. I also stopped walking so much! I've had little or no back pain since I started doing these remedies.
     
  6. Feb 13, 2019 #6

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    Well. I wrote this post about a half a dozen times and kept deleting it.

    Here's the deal...

    I was once 540 pounds at age 32. I started to experience serious complications in multiple body systems. My lab test results and basic health screening results were extremely concerning. There were early signs of organ failure in multiple organs. Doctors were having difficulty managing my health with medications. My mobility failed. I was only able to walk about 50 feet at most. I could no longer leave the house unassisted. I was in constant chronic pain. I needed assistive devices to function independently inside my home. I was told that at the rate my health was failing I might not live to see age 40 and if I did, I would almost certainly be completely housebound by then.

    I chose to lose weight in an attempt to improve my health and mobility, extend my lifespan, regain personal independence, and improve my life quality.

    I lost a lot of fat acceptance community friends who felt that I was a traitor to the cause or that I was being deluded into self-harm by fat bigoted medical professionals. I chose to let those friends go and seek a better life without them.

    All those friends are dead now.

    I am still alive (for now, knock on wood).

    I managed to get down to the 360s and fluctuate between 360-420 pounds over the past 12 years. My health stabilized and improved. My mobility improved. My life got a lot better. Even after two strokes, developing an autoimmune disease, and reaching perimenopause, I am healthier, more mobile, and feel better now at age 48 than when I was at age 32 and 540 pounds.

    I regained 60 pounds (much of it from severe edema) while taking Lyrica for neuropathy pain and started to feel a relapse in mobility loss, increase in back pain, and noticed that everything was becoming more difficult again. Bathing, dressing, caring for my feet, just rolling over in bed. I got worn out faster, out of breath more easily and just felt more bulky and ungainly. It was frightening. I was terrified of ending up back where I was in my early 30s.

    Fortunately, it was discovered that the neuropathy pain is caused by my autoimmune disease and minimizing the flare ups and inflammation minimized the frequency and duration of the nerve pain and the Lyrica is no longer needed and I am almost finished with the tapering off/withdrawal process. Most of the edema is resolved now, and the rest of the Lyrica weight will come off as I stop the drug for good.

    Next I will start working towards getting below 300 pounds. As I age, especially with a brain injury and multiple chronic medical conditions (autoimmune and endocrine) I will need more and more medical care and assistance. The less I weigh, the easier it will be to manage aging in a damaged sick body.

    I always made my health a priority. As much as I have control of at least. Thin, average, fat, or supersized. It never not mattered to me and I never really blew it off.
     
  7. Feb 14, 2019 #7

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    Glad your feeling better. I had similar experience 425 at 40 work was getting tougher and tougher health issues really kicked in. I had the RNY surgery. Now twenty years later still fat 290 lbs still feel better than I did at 40. Now just dealing with orthopedic issues.
    Just like athletics age takes toll. Super fatness is a young person thing.
    Still find fat attractive so many more beautiful fat women now a days.
     
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    I decided I’m going to gain more weight but only to a point. I’m not a big guy... 5’6” and currently 239 lbs., my belly is 51-52”. I’d like to get to maybe 245, 250, maybe even 260 and my belly 53-54”.

    I was a powerlifter (amateur, gym rat) for a lot of years. I got sidelined by shoulder and back surgery... a lumbar fusion. I’m in a sort of 2 month self-imposed gym exile, but I’ll get back to it, and walking for cardio but not weight loss. Those days are gone. I’ve come to like being fat. You can definitely be fit and fat.

    My family doctor and pain management doctor don’t quite agree with that, so I get static from them. I just nod my head and go “mmhmm... ah yeah, I see... uh huh I understand” then go to the diner for the Kahuna breakfast.
     
  9. Feb 20, 2019 #9

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    I'm an extremely kind person who feels deep emotions of responsibility and shame. My weight was monitored by specialists, school nurses etc. since the age of 6 and at around 10 they started telling what a burden I am about to become for the society. At around 14 I decided of there ever came a day I'd get sick weight relatedly the responsible thing to do would be suicide.

    At 18 and around 200 lbs I decided that living a life of constant dieting just wasn't worth it. I still considered suicide as my choice if and when the day would come.

    The day came at 30 and a bit under 400 lbs. I was diagnosed with diabetes and was strongly recommended to get WLS. I probably had signs of sleep apnea as well but it wasn't monitored. I had slight mobility issues but nothing major. Dunno. I felt great, I looked great and if it wasn't for this huge feeling of some sort of obligation or responsibility I would've taken my meds and kept on living.

    But I had the nagging sound telling me I should do as I'd promised and end my days. I ended up saying it out loud and of course my family didn't let me, no matter how seriously I explained it was the responsible thing to do .

    I was stubborn and didn't want the WLS either. I had seen how horribly wrong it could go plus I thought society shouldn't be paying for my mistakes. Secretly I was selfish and didn't want to give up my choice of freedom.

    I chose going back to what I hated and what I struggled with as a child, endless diet and exercising under obligation. I lost roughly 200 lbs but of course I'm still fat if you ask any doctor. My diabetes is in remission, I have extremely slow heart rate etc. but I still get the same complaints about weight all the time. Because of that, it doesn't feel I've done anything for the better. I feel the same as I did at 18. Living a longer life doesn't feel worth it if it's this hamster wheel.

    I don't really know what I'm trying to say. That I reacted with self-hatred and self-punishment?
     
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    I’m no expert and have my own issues for certain. If you are working this hard to be unhappy why bother? Maybe you need to let the reigns go a bit, get new doctors and see how you feel. Your profile picture feels like that is the person you really want to be. Maybe by becoming overweight again your mental state will be healthier.
     
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    I hated those damn school nurses. I always felt like they were blaming me for my weight when as a child under the age of 10 it was out of my control.
     
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    I am 72 years old I now weight 275. I reached 404 at 55. At that point I developed diabetes. I averaged around 380 from about 44yrs to 404 at 55 yrs. I also developed sleep apnea and when I reached 404 the sleep apnea was so bad I had to sleep sitting up. I also had water retention in my lower legs and dark skin on my lower legs. Oh I am 5ft 7ins. carry most of my weight in my upper body. My waist was 70 ins at 400 pounds. I am now losing weignt. I was 300 lbs at 71 yrs old and two doctors told me that my weight was slowly killing me. So I down to 275 and heading lower. I can now sleep In my bed. Waist measurement is 57 ins.I can now sit in a chair a tie my shoes. I eat very little. Anything I eat is health food. Nuts, berries, salads. whole grains , fish and some meat and lots of beans. The diabetes gave me neuropathy in my both feet. It comes at night as a stabbing pain every 30 seconds making it impossible to sleep. I treat it by keeping my blood sugars below 150 and by taking large amounts of b viatmins To treat the neuropathy attacks take B-12
    sublingual (under the tongue) I use 2500 mcg two or three times a day. Here is what I learned, the excess weight will kill you one way or another. Also believe on Jesus In ALL PROBLEMS.
     
  13. Feb 21, 2019 #13

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    Khrestel, that sounds so much like me. I spent my childhood being constantly monitored and had suicidal thoughts about my weight. Which wasn't what anybody intended but that was the effect their words and actions had.

    I ended up going on one really intense diet in my early 20s that developed into an eating disorder. I was working out 3 hours a day, every day, and eating nothing but vegetables and water. Techinically I was never 'underweight' because of my overall build, but you see every bone in my body and I was very sick and frail. I was very ill, physically and mentally, but people kept telling me how much healthier I was and how great I was doing.

    I still got called a fatass once in the street, even at that tiny size. I kinda snapped; I'd been making myself sick and miserable for so long and it still didn't get me any reward. So now I eat whatever I want and do whatever I want and I'm twice the size I was back then. People like to tell me how unhealthy I am now, despite a lot of my issues resolving. Doesn't help that I'm disabled anyway.

    I don't know what I will do if/when my weight becomes an issue to my health. Because honestly, cutting back enough to lose weight was terrible for my mental and physical health anyway. But I know I don't see the point in living a long, miserable life. I'd rather live less long and be happy. It's a compromise, as with most things. I think the best balance for most people is somewhere in the middle.
     
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    there are some really honest comments here, thanks for sharing, that side of the fetish is important as well, not only for us but for our love ones
     
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    I don't see my weight and my health related issues as cause and effect. I see them both as expressions of my genotype.
    When I was in college I majored in Molecular Biology and worked in a lab that studied genes that controlled the shape of the fruit fly. Ever since then I have seen my shape as a mostly genetic trait.
    I don't see my diseases as caused by my size. To me that is like a black person with sickle cell anemia blaming their black skin for the sickle cell anemia. Scientists know they are two genes that happen to travel together on a chromosome, but one does not cause the other.
     
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    Doesn't excess weight exacerbate health problems and put people at a higher risk of getting them in the first place, though?
     
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    Thank you to everyone participating in this thread. I really appreciate hearing others stories.
     
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    For me, it was a weird journey. For a great part of my life, I was very healthy and athletic though fairly thin (maybe except for my legs which were bigger from running track and playing football). In college (the first time around), I ran into a guy I knew who had transformed his body through weight training and he suggested I come work out at his gym. So I spent a summer working out and went from 145 lbs to 166 lbs and it was solid muscle. A year later I joined the military and my weight was 176 lbs. They told me that I should watch my weight because according to them I was nearly overweight by their standards (even though I was in the top 5% in all physical testing areas).

    Over time though, as age crept in, I gain a little more each year. I always felt my optimal weight was about 185 but am now 225 or so. About 10 years ago I was diagnosed with pre-diabetes. I kinda shrugged it off at the time thinking that I could easily beat it. Then it was high blood pressure. The sleep apnea. Then full on diabetes. And I still didn't think much of it. But when I started getting that tingling, pins and needles feeling in my feet, I started to take things more seriously.

    These days, I take my meds as prescribed and do my best to not gain too much more. I've actually lost weight from when I was at my heaviest (around 242 lbs). I've been maintaining around 225 lbs for the past few years.
     
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    Seriously what a great thread, I really appreciate everyone that has shared their journeys.
     
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