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Thanks for the heads up. Your help is appreciated. I have removed this one now also.
 

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I'd offer to help with the clean-up crew, but I somehow don't think my help would be taken as anything other than a witch hunt for my own personal agenda by some people. Really, though, you guys are doing a good job. Kudos to you for taking the task on.
 

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If putting up a disclaimer about the library will help solve the problem of people feeling insulted/angry, I'm ok with that.
Good. Thank you.

Maybe I should start a list of people who agree. That makes quite a few who think that putting up a disclaimer and/or password protecting the Library are workable compromises.
 

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Aren't the titles "Erotic Weight Gain" and "Unique Interests" with little descriptions of what type of story that particular sub forum has in it kind of it's own discliamer?
Read the rest of the thread for reasons why people feel that's not enough. The disclaimer that has been proposed is along the lines of...

"Dimensions does not condone hatred or abuse against fat people. If you must use language that expresses hate or portrays abuse against fat or fat people, please do it only in the areas clearly marked for those purposes.

Others have articulated it better, but that captures the gist of it.
 

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I just wanted to show how actually rampant the problem is when you can pretty much close your eyes, throw a rock, and hit a story with minors in it. (Ooh, look, notice I didn't say pedophilia? Minors, people. Key word is minors!)
Thanks, Katorade, I appreciate you making that distinction:)


Putting aside the underage issue for a moment, do you know of any stories in the library that you do consider to be appropriate for this site (ie size positive stories)? I'm not trying to challenge you here, I'm just curious. I was thinking about it earlier and, if I'm honest about it, I think that most of the stories that I consider fairly innocuous still do actually contain some questionable content. Even most of the "lighter" stories involve women either feeling insecure or depressed over their size at some point or else some sort of conflict with some other character giving them grief about their weight. I think we can agree that a lot of the heavy duty force-feeding or humiliation stories are to some degree incompatible with a size positive mission, but I'm curious as to how, uh, negative* a story can be before it starts to feel inappropriate for the site? The BBWs in this thread have objected mostly to the very extreme porn while the FAs worry that any porn more ribald than a "Harlequin romance" will get purged, so I'm trying to suss out the middle ground where things start going from "okay" to "questionable."

Again, I'm just curious and not trying to start a fresh argument. I've never received any feminist/size conscious crits on my stories, but, in thinking back on them, I couldn't say if they'd pass muster, so that just got me wondering about positive a story written for this site ought to be.

* - not the right word, but I'm seriously not sure how to better say this right now
 

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The level of hyperbole is rather astonishing.
This cuts both ways, Observer.

There is talk of destroying the library

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And now fellow community members are bering called "fat haters" because of their preferences?
For example, both of the above statements of yours are distorted and hyperbolic.

1) No one wants to destroy the library.

Are you just fanning the flames? Or have you not kept up with the debate? Because if you've been reading, it makes no sense that you're saying "there is talk of destroying the library." No sense at all.

We've been talking about a password and a disclaimer as possible viable compromise that would be workable for a majority of both "camps."

2) People who are being taken to task for "fat hate" are being taken to task not because of their preferences, but for their behavior.

There is a difference.

No one's preferences are under attack.

Let's just make sure that's clear.

AND the only reason that people's behavior is up for scrutiny is that they've tried to paint themselves paragons of model citizenship on the Board while accusing others of being personally hateful. A lot of smoke has been blown in the direction of the people who would like to see some simple changes made, and that smoke has clouded the issue. Taking people to task for blowing smoke--by pointing out that they're not the models of neighborliness that they pretend to be--has just been a way of clearing the air so those who want to debate the issue legitimately can get back to it.


Fat people have a voice here because they have a presence here. Those that don't like it when some fat people and supporters take a stand against language that they find demeaning should ask themselves why.
 

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Look, I can't feature why anyone would EVER want to read or write about the humiliation and debasement of other human beings? Chalk it up to my lack of imagination, prudery, bad upbringing or whatever the f*ck you like. I do have the good sense however to understand I can't walk into a gay bar and shout "You dick-eating fudge-packers are a filthy abomination on decent christian civilization who should all slither off and die!" I automatically recognize I can't even whisper it in a dark corner. Such malignant garbage is reserved for the company of other homophobes. If I feel that way I DON'T BELONG THERE! How simple is that?!?

This isn't about acceptance, tolerance, censorship or being comprehensive! It's about people having the right to stand up for their intrinsic value as human beings and confront those who disrespect them. Those who enjoy degrading fantasies about fat people who can't understand that don't contribute anything to this community that justifies their debauched tripe existing adjacent to legitimate fat fiction. Quite the contrary, they're parasites who feed on the hurt they inflict and undoubtedly thrive on conversations like this simply for the angst they hope it engenders. I've had enough of this self-indulgent, petulant BS from people who don't GAF about anyone but themselves. JMO & just for the record before this thread is closed. :D Sorry for trying to make light of this earlier, btw.
 

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Funny how you’re quick to explain away Santa/Russ’s insulting comments to actual people, but you can’t seem to get over a harsh comment in one of Vader’s fictional stories directed at made up characters. No personal ax grinding going on there at all. :rolleyes:
Russ didn't "insult" a person....he laughed off a silly post that person made because it seemed quite contradictory of what this person was arguing for/about. There is a difference....and he disagreed with this person's assertions of what was "offensive".
I have seen a lot of people hashing that out in this thread....why did Molly single out Santaclear? It's something of a mystery to me. :blink:

Errrrmmmmm....Vader got bent with me in another thread for a generalization I made about the library and some of the stories I had edited in it. I found them rather ugly, hate-filled and ignorant....this led me to be cautious whenever I read something in the library.....if at all.

Someone in the other thread grew melo-dramatic and said they wouldn't "Post their art" there anymore.....I found that statement of random short stories being posted in an erotica library as "art" quite amusing myself.

I have read no "art" in that library....that seemed to offend Vader because that is my perspective....one that is most likely not to change.

Vader was the one that decided he had a "beef" with me in another thread. It's over now....let it go Elroy....I have *shrugs*

Russ wasn't insulting a person. If he had, the mods would have removed the post and reprimanded him as it is against forum rules. What he found funny, and what I found to be quite reaching and outright ridiculous, is that poster claiming that pics of family members somehow bother her delicate sensibilities....yet stories of hatred, mysoginy, force feeding under the threat of death and underage characters being abused/forced fed doesn't.
That IS quite ironic....I think Russ was being quite nice to simply call her post/argument funny. I flat out call it stupid myself.

I didn't see their posts. They are lost in the sea of people who, like me, feel that fat humiliation stories shouldn't be a mainstream part of a site that advertises itself to be about size acceptance. Had I seen the posts, though, it wouldn't have changed my stance. Some things aren't about catering to the whims of a minority. Some things should be about aligning goals so that they match the mission statement, so to speak. And some things go so far beyond the pale that it's point-blank ridiculous to dismiss concerns with "close the window if you come upon a story you don't like." When I saw your sense of outrage that pro-Ana sites were eliminated while pro-feeder sites were not, I understood more of where you are coming from. You think that any concession at all is taking something away from you. How about what is taken away from the people confronted by bigotry and fat hatred in the mainstream, and the last place they'd expect to see same is ... here?

You aren't a fat woman, LoveBHMS. As far as I know, you never have been. You don't know the least thing about the fat experience, and it incenses me to see you hiding under the banner of the poor, under-represented, marginalized fat people who have posted here. You don't care to hear what the people who disagree with you have to say, and clearly, you never have. To me, it seems that what upsets you the most is the notion that some of your cookies might get taken away. Fly that free speech banner, loudly and proudly, while ignoring the very real feelings of those of whom you claim to admire. You're missing something very, very important in the process, though.
This.......deserves a politically correct bowing "person" :bow:

He disagreed with someone by joking that they liked underage kids. People in this thread seem to get all up in arms about stories with underage kids, but "jokes" are okay? In any case, Santa's original comments are less obnoxious than the fact that, whenever we've objected to them, he starts crying "I was just joking!"

I mean, people here keep getting livid when the porn people say "But they're just stories! They're harmless, they're not insulting! You should lighten up!"

I've explained everything I've said, though you seem eager to misunderstand. If you didn't like it, then, hey, it was just a joke. Don't you have a sense of humor? Sheeeeesh!
He cracked on her lame argument....not her. It's allowed. Don't like it? Don't read it ;)

We can dance this dance all day......
 

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Look, put a freaking password on the library so we can get on with our lives. The people that love the library still have it, and the ones who hate the stories don't have to acknowledge its existance.

Besides, while I do love that this sight blends size acceptance with size sexuality, I find it interesting, and odd, that the library takes up roughly half the Dimensions Forums page. And this is coming from someone who does love the library, btw.
 

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Thanks, Katorade, I appreciate you making that distinction:)


Putting aside the underage issue for a moment, do you know of any stories in the library that you do consider to be appropriate for this site (ie size positive stories)? I'm not trying to challenge you here, I'm just curious. I was thinking about it earlier and, if I'm honest about it, I think that most of the stories that I consider fairly innocuous still do actually contain some questionable content. Even most of the "lighter" stories involve women either feeling insecure or depressed over their size at some point or else some sort of conflict with some other character giving them grief about their weight. I think we can agree that a lot of the heavy duty force-feeding or humiliation stories are to some degree incompatible with a size positive mission, but I'm curious as to how, uh, negative* a story can be before it starts to feel inappropriate for the site? The BBWs in this thread have objected mostly to the very extreme porn while the FAs worry that any porn more ribald than a "Harlequin romance" will get purged, so I'm trying to suss out the middle ground where things start going from "okay" to "questionable."

Again, I'm just curious and not trying to start a fresh argument. I've never received any feminist/size conscious crits on my stories, but, in thinking back on them, I couldn't say if they'd pass muster, so that just got me wondering about positive a story written for this site ought to be.

* - not the right word, but I'm seriously not sure how to better say this right now
I'm actually fine with most of the stories posted in there, even if they're not my bag. Hell, I would even go so far as to say that I don't mind elements of humiliation in a story as long as the story as a whole isn't conveyed as fat hatred, like someone being taunted by a bully but standing up for themselves. Dare I say I would even give a nod to stories like this one: http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39299 where even the thread discussion pointed out that humiliation could play a part in the story without turning fat into something negative.

My real key issues are with the stories that really do portray hatred, not just humiliation or force or whatever plot device of your choice. I understand why it is some people are drawn to such subjects, even if common sense says they should be offended. As a victim of molestation myself, I have some kinks that a lot of people would think is contradictory to what I should be turned on by. Likewise, it's the same reason many rape victims have rape fantasies while others are appalled by it. I GET that.

What I don't understand is the writing allowed here that drips with just pure hatred of fat people. You asked earlier why anyone would be here for so long if they actually hated fat people. There's a lot of different answers for that that I'm not qualified to answer, nor am I privy to their own reasons. Why were rotten.com and ogrish such popular sites? Why can't people keep their eyes off of a train wreck when they know the outcome isn't good? Why do trolls show up on websites they know they have no business being on? Boredom? Displaced self-loathing? Psychopathy? Who knows.

Better question is why it's tolerated by people that claim to have the best interests of fat people in mind. More and more it sounds like their idea of best interests and my(and other's) idea of it are farther and farther apart.
 

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Russ didn't "insult" a person....he laughed off a silly post that person made because it seemed quite contradictory of what this person was arguing for/about. There is a difference....and he disagreed with this person's assertions of what was "offensive".
I have seen a lot of people hashing that out in this thread....why did Molly single out Santaclear? It's something of a mystery to me. :blink:

Errrrmmmmm....Vader got bent with me in another thread for a generalization I made about the library and some of the stories I had edited in it. I found them rather ugly, hate-filled and ignorant....this led me to be cautious whenever I read something in the library.....if at all.

Someone in the other thread grew melo-dramatic and said they wouldn't "Post their art" there anymore.....I found that statement of random short stories being posted in an erotica library as "art" quite amusing myself.

I have read no "art" in that library....that seemed to offend Vader because that is my perspective....one that is most likely not to change.

Vader was the one that decided he had a "beef" with me in another thread. It's over now....let it go Elroy....I have *shrugs*

Russ wasn't insulting a person. If he had, the mods would have removed the post and reprimanded him as it is against forum rules. What he found funny, and what I found to be quite reaching and outright ridiculous, is that poster claiming that pics of family members somehow bother her delicate sensibilities....yet stories of hatred, mysoginy, force feeding under the threat of death and underage characters being abused/forced fed doesn't.
That IS quite ironic....I think Russ was being quite nice to simply call her post/argument funny. I flat out call it stupid myself.
Wow, that’s pretty long winded for not even beginning to address the point I was making. What you think is a joke I consider an insult. What you think is fat hatred I think is a small part of a fictional, albeit extreme story. You said nothing of the double standard I called you on. Not that I really expected you to.:rolleyes:
 

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Russ didn't "insult" a person....he laughed off a silly post that person made because it seemed quite contradictory of what this person was arguing for/about. There is a difference....and he disagreed with this person's assertions of what was "offensive".
I have seen a lot of people hashing that out in this thread....why did Molly single out Santaclear? It's something of a mystery to me. :blink:
I've explained multiple times EXACTLY why I singled out Santaclear. Other people may have been insulting, but Santaclear is the only one making passive-aggressive cracks and then refusing to take responsibility for them by hiding behind the excuse that he was just "joking" and that, if you dno't like it, you don't have a sense of humor. That you seem unable to understand my position after I've explained it multiple times makes me think that you're just willfully misunderstanding me. I'm sure that if someone on the other side of this debate had made the same comments as Santaclear you would be quick to label them as offensive, but you're quick to give Santaclear a pass because he's your friend.

Russ wasn't insulting a person. If he had, the mods would have removed the post and reprimanded him as it is against forum rules. What he found funny, and what I found to be quite reaching and outright ridiculous, is that poster claiming that pics of family members somehow bother her delicate sensibilities....yet stories of hatred, mysoginy, force feeding under the threat of death and underage characters being abused/forced fed doesn't.
That IS quite ironic....I think Russ was being quite nice to simply call her post/argument funny. I flat out call it stupid myself.
Do I need to say this again? Russ didn't say "Your argument/post is funny." He said "I don't like your argument, so I'm going to say that you sound like you like diddling kids." And when I called him out on that he said "Gee, you just don't have a sense of humor." If you read Loves comment, it seems obvious that she was pointing out a disconnect rather than saying that she was actually offended. But based on your comments toward me, I'm not surprised that you'd wilfully misunderstand posts when it's in your interest.

You say that I can't find Santaclear's behavior toward another poster offensive. You say that I can't find behavior toward FAs offensive if I'm not an FA myself (Which I am, but you apparently decided I'm not based on what seems like a deliberate misinterpretation of my comments). You don't seem to understand the concept of empathy very well.

He cracked on her lame argument....not her. It's allowed. Don't like it? Don't read it ;)

We can dance this dance all day......
Are you seriously not understanding a word I say? Or are you just intentionally misunderstanding because you want to protect your friend from getting called on his immaturity?
 

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Thank you Katorade for acknowledging that we are dealing with an age issue, not pedophilia. That latter term is so inflammatory and in the view of our writers so inaccurate that its mere use causes many to just withdraw from the fray while drawing in others who haven't even read much in the ilbrary. As to helping out, we can discuss that in PM.

Thanks also to James for pullinng the two cited stories - if anyone knoiws of any more please let me know via PM. I suspect there are some due to the process by which the purge is done. Several of our mods volunteered to review different archival forums and not all are complete.

One of the cited stories dates back to 2005 and illustrates the practice even before the nuanced rules of 2006. That's why the arguement that we weren't following the rules in 2009 makes those who were doing the job shake our heads.

The other, as noted, was a fantasy written by a sixteen year old who was, I believe, banned for two years when that fact became known (he's now been reinstated). It was copied from his Yahoo group! This reflects a very real elephant in the living room that's not going away - affirmations about being an adult site or not, there are many teens among us. They just don't generally log in and post. This has always been the case - my own thoughts about what could be done about it were given years ago and no one liked the idea: password protect all but the most innocuous of forums.
 

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I'm actually fine with most of the stories posted in there, even if they're not my bag. Hell, I would even go so far as to say that I don't mind elements of humiliation in a story as long as the story as a whole isn't conveyed as fat hatred, like someone being taunted by a bully but standing up for themselves. Dare I say I would even give a nod to stories like this one: http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39299 where even the thread discussion pointed out that humiliation could play a part in the story without turning fat into something negative.

My real key issues are with the stories that really do portray hatred, not just humiliation or force or whatever plot device of your choice. I understand why it is some people are drawn to such subjects, even if common sense says they should be offended. As a victim of molestation myself, I have some kinks that a lot of people would think is contradictory to what I should be turned on by. Likewise, it's the same reason many rape victims have rape fantasies while others are appalled by it. I GET that.

What I don't understand is the writing allowed here that drips with just pure hatred of fat people. You asked earlier why anyone would be here for so long if they actually hated fat people. There's a lot of different answers for that that I'm not qualified to answer, nor am I privy to their own reasons. Why were rotten.com and ogrish such popular sites? Why can't people keep their eyes off of a train wreck when they know the outcome isn't good? Why do trolls show up on websites they know they have no business being on? Boredom? Displaced self-loathing? Psychopathy? Who knows.

Better question is why it's tolerated by people that claim to have the best interests of fat people in mind. More and more it sounds like their idea of best interests and my(and other's) idea of it are farther and farther apart.
Hi Katorade, thanks for clarifying! I do appreciate that.
 

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Thank you Katorade for acknowledging that we are dealing with an age issue, not pedophilia.
IT has been acknowledged throughout the thread. And even after I called for people to remain calm about the "underage" issue, that the case for calling it pedophilia was dubious under current law, the "underage" issue was dragged back into the conversation by LoveBHMs.

Apparently she felt, because having "underage" characters in porn is now prohibited at Dimensions, that no one should be allowed to post pictures of their kids in the non-adult sections of Dimensions.

Some people who had been trying to debate with some clarity and mutual respect felt that this was an attempt on Love's part to cloud the real issue at hand here. And some took her to task for it.
 

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mollycoddles, I just wanted to point out that the resistance you are getting from others re: your argument about Russ & his intentions is because most of us who know Russ long-term know that it is very, very unlikely for him to involve himself in a fight of any kind. He expresses himself via humor, and if you knew him, you'd know that there really isn't anything passive-aggressive about that. I am inclined to believe Russ' explanation for why he wrote what he did, and that takes into account the nearly 5 years that I've been participating here, and the fact that I've yet to see him be anything but kind to other people. Maybe we can put this issue to rest and focus on what's at hand? You know ... the faction that wants to get rid of the library and take everyone's toys away coz we're bitter prudes vs. those who eat babies? :D

(My attempt at levity ... sorry if it's a gigantic fail)

I've explained multiple times EXACTLY why I singled out Santaclear. Other people may have been insulting, but Santaclear is the only one making passive-aggressive cracks and then refusing to take responsibility for them by hiding behind the excuse that he was just "joking" and that, if you dno't like it, you don't have a sense of humor. That you seem unable to understand my position after I've explained it multiple times makes me think that you're just willfully misunderstanding me. I'm sure that if someone on the other side of this debate had made the same comments as Santaclear you would be quick to label them as offensive, but you're quick to give Santaclear a pass because he's your friend.



Do I need to say this again? Russ didn't say "Your argument/post is funny." He said "I don't like your argument, so I'm going to say that you sound like you like diddling kids." And when I called him out on that he said "Gee, you just don't have a sense of humor." If you read Loves comment, it seems obvious that she was pointing out a disconnect rather than saying that she was actually offended. But based on your comments toward me, I'm not surprised that you'd wilfully misunderstand posts when it's in your interest.

You say that I can't find Santaclear's behavior toward another poster offensive. You say that I can't find behavior toward FAs offensive if I'm not an FA myself (Which I am, but you apparently decided I'm not based on what seems like a deliberate misinterpretation of my comments). You don't seem to understand the concept of empathy very well.



Are you seriously not understanding a word I say? Or are you just intentionally misunderstanding because you want to protect your friend from getting called on his immaturity?
 

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To Observer: You're welcome. Any time.

Edited to add that legally, pedophilia can include sexual acting out toward pubescent, and post pubescent minors. So using the term -- while it's certainly inflammatory (with good reason!) -- is accurate in the stories mentioned.

You know, I was a very well developed, pubescent 12 year old when I was diddled by my uncle. What he did was legally deemed pedophilia, plain and simple. He's just lucky that I had no one to stand up for me. But me? Not so lucky.
 

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Thanks also to James for pullinng the two cited stories - if anyone knoiws of any more please let me know via PM. I suspect there are some due to the process by which the purge is done. Several of our mods volunteered to review different archival forums and not all are complete.

I would like to take a moment to just scratch an itch I have. The above post? THAT MEANS YOU, TOO, LIBRARY READERS. You can and should report things you believe are not following the rules.

I'm a little disheartened that this thread has painted it to look like the people who stick mostly to the discussion boards are akin to the Harper Valley PTA or the blind bourgeoisie while the readers of the library are either a bunch of moral bottom-dwellers or sexually-liberated anarchists. The link to the story I posted proves that you guys know when content is questionable, so don't just point it out, report it. That doesn't make you the enemy or a tattle-tale. It makes you a responsible contributor to this site. It also makes the mods' jobs a hell of a lot easier and does a lot to keep issues like this one from becoming as heated as they are.
 

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Wow, that’s pretty long winded for not even beginning to address the point I was making. What you think is a joke I consider an insult. What you think is fat hatred I think is a small part of a fictional, albeit extreme story. You said nothing of the double standard I called you on. Not that I really expected you to.:rolleyes:
Okay Elroy. I won't be so long winded this time....mainly because I had enough of these histrionics with Vader.

I view people that support child molesting and fat hatred as assclowns. I think people that support it do so because they get their rocks off on it.
I don't get off on hurting/abusing other people.....hence, I don't support abuse, and can't get behind supporting those stories.

I'm just a simple kind of girl that prefers to use logic in my dealings in how I treat other people.

It's kind of like being a white girl that doesn't use the N word because it's got a long history of being used to hurt and put down people. I think it would make me an ignorant fuck to use that word. People might assume I'm a racist if I felt the need to go around spouting that hateful word.....people might be right about me if I did such things.

I don't give a fuck if someone insults racists, haters or selfish, manipulative assclowns because they are very low on my totem pole of people who are important. I don't give a flying fuck if people think their hatred is art. I will mock them mentally and anywhere it's "allowed"....or at the very least, have a good laugh at their expense because they deserve nothing better in my mind.

I value people for their ideals and how they treat other people. People that write stories of hatred and abuse of a certain sect of people and feel that it's all giggly/funny/cool beans to post that shit (yeah I called it shit again) on a site where those very people obviously spend a lot of time and endear that place enough to call it a "community", are abusive in my eyes.

Fuck abusers....they can eat my ass.

That's not hypocrisy....I'm forthright in that claim/ideal. I might be an asshole to you for some of what I said above but at least I'm an honest asshole that isn't playing the victim here.

Oh sorry....didn't mean to write another long paragraph to upset you so badly again :doh:

Go find someone else to vent at Elroy. You and I are done.
 

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Thank you, Katorade. I am bolding your final sentance in appreciation.

I would like to take a moment to just scratch an itch I have. The above post? THAT MEANS YOU, TOO, LIBRARY READERS. You can and should report things you believe are not following the rules.

I'm a little disheartened that this thread has painted it to look like the people who stick mostly to the discussion boards are akin to the Harper Valley PTA or the blind bourgeoisie while the readers of the library are either a bunch of moral bottom-dwellers or sexually-liberated anarchists. The link to the story I posted proves that you guys know when content is questionable, so don't just point it out, report it. That doesn't make you the enemy or a tattle-tale. It makes you a responsible contributor to this site. It also makes the mods' jobs a hell of a lot easier and does a lot to keep issues like this one from becoming as heated as they are.
 
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