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I spent 9 years in academia first getting my B.S. in Biology, then my Doctorate in Veterinary Medicine. I may be a BBW web model in my spare time, but my day job is as a Veterinarian. I love that I can be both and hope people realize BBW's can be smart AND beautiful.
 

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I spent 9 years in academia first getting my B.S. in Biology, then my Doctorate in Veterinary Medicine. I may be a BBW web model in my spare time, but my day job is as a Veterinarian. I love that I can be both and hope people realize BBW's can be smart AND beautiful.
Lenny would like to rep you but he's run outta rep!
He generally likes female Vets, especially the cute ones!
 

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I have had my MFA since 1996.........teaching (adjunct faculty) at local colleges for the last 13 years. However, right now I am not even teaching at all....tis the sign of the times.
 

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We have to take a comp exam that covers our 4 core classes. Thanks
Lucky you - I had to a thesis :( took almost as long as the entire program. I regret the fact that I didn't immediately go for a Phd then -but, I had felt so burned out in completing the Masters Program. The happy day for me was getting the signatures of both my advisors on my thesis project and handing it off to the Bursars Office :) I would have taken Comp exams in a heartbeat.

I was fortunate that my program was a terminal Masters-but, I get that desire to go back to school as the learning is always ongoing and i think now I can view it as enjoyment as a opposed to an "ends to a means"
 

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Lucky you - I had to a thesis :( took almost as long as the entire program. I regret the fact that I didn't immediately go for a Phd then -but, I had felt so burned out in completing the Masters Program. The happy day for me was getting the signatures of both my advisors on my thesis project and handing it off to the Bursars Office :) I would have taken Comp exams in a heartbeat.

I was fortunate that my program was a terminal Masters-but, I get that desire to go back to school as the learning is always ongoing and i think now I can view it as enjoyment as a opposed to an "ends to a means"
I have a thesis AND oral AND written comps!
 

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I consider my intelligence integral to my sexuality and sensuality. I do not worry about being too smart, no woman can be too smart or too fat.
 

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I read about a study done of (undergraduate) college acceptance rates of fat women; they were lower in general when photos were included as part of the application, something like 30/40%.

I don't think academe is immune from sizeism...all you have to do is look at the threads around here from people who've had a really hard time getting seating that will work in college to know that. Subtle, institutionalized, stubborn variety there, but still.

However, I don't think that should stop anybody from anything, nor does it, always. Just...noting.
 

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And to address another topic in this thread, I have never thought academia and fat incompatible, and I have never experienced any prejudice in my many years in grad school/at university. No one has ever assumed that I'm somehow mentally deficient for being fat. And I've been fat all my life.

I'm shocked to hear that people find fat academics odd. Am I misunderstanding something?
I'm perplexed as well. I have an MBA and a BBA and never once felt out of place or discriminated against during all my years in business school. I'm an accountant at one of the Big 4 accounting firms and although I am definitely the fattest person in the office, it has never been an issue with co-workers or clients. I don't think my intelligence has ever been questioned simply because I'm fat.
 

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I'm perplexed as well. I have an MBA and a BBA and never once felt out of place or discriminated against during all my years in business school. I'm an accountant at one of the Big 4 accounting firms and although I am definitely the fattest person in the office, it has never been an issue with co-workers or clients. I don't think my intelligence has ever been questioned simply because I'm fat.
I've never experienced discrimination or felt out of place because I'm a fatty either. But, I can say early on I think my intelligence was question as a woman of color persuing higher learning though...whole other Oprah show, lol.
 

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Has any of you ladies has had any problem being too smart? I am a woman that has many interests. I am extremely curious...
I have heard how "intimidating" I am, both as a PhD student and now as a professor, which just makes me laugh inside. It's true that you have to be smart and intellectually curious to be with me romantically, but that takes many forms.

i am a bonafide diversity specialist... BA in American Multiculturalism & Diversity/ Yiddish & Ashkenazic Studies.... MA in American Multiculturalism & Diversity AND an all around student of life...

in addition to being called "too smart", "the book of knowledge", i am at heart an academic... continually studying topics that interest me... eventually, i'll get around to my Ph.D or Ed.D... probably an Ed.D...

it is true that sweet&fat is intimidating... i have been told that i am too...

::shameless plug:: calling all FAs into intimidating fat academics.... feel free to pm me!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL
 

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farvus hobn mir keyn mol nisht geredt oyf idish tsuzamn???? Vu hostu shudirt?
nu?!??! du forgessen?!?!??! mir iz geven a shtudent bei oxford universetet...

GEVAULT!


di grosse eppel geredt...
::avec:: :bow:
 

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I read about a study done of (undergraduate) college acceptance rates of fat women; they were lower in general when photos were included as part of the application, something like 30/40%.
Interesting - i thought that the submission of a photo would be optional. Given the choice, I would not submit a photo. This certainly can open up the institutions to potential discrimination suits if they are basing things on looks....
 

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nu?!??! du forgessen?!?!??! mir iz geven a shtudent bei oxford universetet...

GEVAULT!


di grosse eppel geredt...
::avec:: :bow:
ven hostu mir gezogt? Bay oxford universitet???????? mit vemen? ven? shik mir a PM... oyf idish!
 

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Interesting - i thought that the submission of a photo would be optional. Given the choice, I would not submit a photo. This certainly can open up the institutions to potential discrimination suits if they are basing things on looks....
Honestly, it was one of the most depressing things I think I've ever read, not the least of which was because the photos were head shots, I think, which is a whole other book in the Story of Fat (how faces influence what people see). And yeah, I didn't understand at the time about the repercussions for discrimination suits based on appearances might work, which seems incredibly fraught in any possible direction. Can you imagine? Would wipe a school out in two seconds.
 

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Honestly, it was one of the most depressing things I think I've ever read, not the least of which was because the photos were head shots, I think, which is a whole other book in the Story of Fat (how faces influence what people see). And yeah, I didn't understand at the time about the repercussions for discrimination suits based on appearances might work, which seems incredibly fraught in any possible direction. Can you imagine? Would wipe a school out in two seconds.
I tried to find a specific legal precedence;but, perhaps some Dimmers that are in the legal field or anyone with access to Lexis/Nexis can shed additional insight. Some points to consider below....
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Columbia was the first to require photographs from applicants.

At Harvard, Jewish enrollment reached 6 percent by 1909 and soared to 22 percent by 1922. At Columbia University, more convenient because of its New York location, Jewish enrollment climbed to 40 percent of the student body and at Hunter College, it was 80 percent.

This was the "Jewish problem" facing Lowell at Harvard and his colleagues at other Ivy League schools. The flood of Jews was displacing old-line Gentile Americans. And, it was all happening in the emerging era of eugenics, when tests, such as those administered earlier at Ellis Island and later on World War I Army recruits, were believed to have clearly established that people of Nordic, Alpine, and similar Western and Northern European backgrounds were intellectually superior to blacks, Jews, "Mediterranean's," and others of Southern and Eastern European origin. In the language of the times, admissions personnel, particularly at the Ivy League schools, would "reclaim the right to use social as well as academic criteria" "New application blanks would ask for personal background, including religious affiliation, father's name and place of birth . . . Columbia required a photograph, a personal interview, and three letters of recommendation." Prospective students were evaluated based on "character" and "background." Admissions staff would look favorably on the "boys of old American stock" and Gentile boys of "a desirable social type," while holding back on Jews whose energy and ambition was seen to outstrip their native IQ.


Source:

Jewish Achievement

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Now I have noticed some overseas programs requesting a photo. Below is a Q&A regarding Employment Issues;but, may shed some additional light on the Application process in Education.

Q: I am conducting an international job hunt. A number of international employers are requesting a photo, as well as asking questions about my gender, marital status and age. Isn’t this illegal?

A: International employers do not play by the same rules as employers in the United States. In many countries across the globe, information such as gender, marital status, age, height, weight, religion and other personal information are either required or strongly requested. If you do not include this information, there’s a good chance you will not be considered for the job. You will really have to proceed at your own risk. Good luck with your choices!


Excelsior College- Ask the Career Counselor

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Title VII

"Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 forbids employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, national origin, gender, and (as of a subsequent amendment, The Age Discrimination in Employment Act), age over 40. The Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA) is a complex piece of legislation forbidding discrimination based on disability"

Conducting Interviews

In a recent job interview, the following questions were asked of a professional woman with an advanced degree:

2. Did you attach a photo to your application?

An applicant's picture can reveal such things as race, national origin, or gender. In the past, applications of black candidates may have gone into the reject pile based purely upon the picture. It has been over 30 years since pictures were part of the application process and now it is rarely even mentioned.

Source

Entrepreneur:Was that Question Legal?
 

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